# I'm not a racist, but I have some strong opinions on Rabbis **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 20, 2012, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-a-racist-but-i-have-some-strong-opinions-on-rabbis/622549 "2012-05-20T21:21:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-a-racist-but-i-have-some-strong-opinions-on-rabbis/622549/61 "2012-05-21T23:36:20Z")
Um, **Condescending Robot** said, \*I can forgive the insistence that everyone is “Dr. The Reverend” whatever–the sort of Pokemon-like accumulation of meaningless degrees from intellectually worthless Bible colleges is hardly unique to any racial group within Christianity. \* You no ready Engrish very well or did I miss something? ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2012, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-a-racist-but-i-have-some-strong-opinions-on-rabbis/622549/62 "2012-05-21T23:56:15Z")
> [@dngnb8](#): > > Im not saying his cites arent correct. Im saying his statement to open is > > This has nothing to do with the issue. His hate for religion. In fact, his hate just makes him seethe more when people of Faith screw up. Its magnified to him. Like when a Republican screws up and Demcocrats Pile on. Or when a Yankee screws up and the Red Sox fans pile on. > > \ Yep. Drooling moron. I called it first (at least in _this_ tread). Dude, seriously, you’re looking for offense where there ain’t none. There _are_ Christians, here. And Jews (of every variety), and even some _ **muslims** _. The OP was just upset that people went off on “Black” preachers. As though they are different from “White Preachers”. So he pointed out the racism. I doubt he _cares_ about the religion aspect at all. But if he does, you probably got it wrong. That would be the “drooling moron” I mentioned. You’re an idiot. Stop being surprised when people call you on that. ETA: I see he can’t understand where he went wrong. Fool! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2012, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-a-racist-but-i-have-some-strong-opinions-on-rabbis/622549/63 "2012-05-22T00:30:32Z")
[Monday the Rabbi Took Off!](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Kemelman#The_Rabbi_Small_Novels) Lazy bastards . . . :mad: ---
**Author:** ![florez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9e5f3/32.png) [@florez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/florez)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2012, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-a-racist-but-i-have-some-strong-opinions-on-rabbis/622549/64 "2012-05-22T02:08:06Z")
> [@dngnb8](#): > > I dont hate, but Im going to post a hate filled rant based on hate. IMO, dngnb8 overreacts in a defensive process to exaggerate her opposition to what she is guilty of, thus hiding her own racist tendencies…plus the “drooling moron” thing. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2012, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-a-racist-but-i-have-some-strong-opinions-on-rabbis/622549/65 "2012-05-22T02:34:22Z")
What makes it even more hilarious is **dngnb8** ’s signature: > [@](#): > > The Sarchasm - > The gorge between my witty comment and you, who doesn’t get it. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2012, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-a-racist-but-i-have-some-strong-opinions-on-rabbis/622549/66 "2012-05-22T03:39:21Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > Ya think? (Methinks you may have been kinda whooshed there.) Ah, so making dudes think you’re a racist asshole is _funny_? :rolleyes: hardeharhar. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2012, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-a-racist-but-i-have-some-strong-opinions-on-rabbis/622549/67 "2012-05-22T04:30:44Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Ah, so making dudes think you’re a racist asshole is _funny_? :rolleyes: > > hardeharhar. Allright, so **Rhythymdvl** isn’t a master or parody. I didn’t think the OP was all that _funny_ either, but c’mon. It was fully intended to be satirical. I have no sympathy for anyone who refuses to dig deeper and follow links in order to educate themselves about what is being discussed. Even if the guy was serious, people should still follow the links to see where the information came from. To not do so is pathetic. So, sure, **Rhythymdvl** is no Jon Stewart, but, though I normally blame the “comedian” when a joke falls flat, this is one case where I do blame the few members of the audience that willfully refused to use critical thinking. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2012, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-a-racist-but-i-have-some-strong-opinions-on-rabbis/622549/68 "2012-05-22T04:44:09Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > Allright, so **Rhythymdvl** isn’t a master or parody. I didn’t think the OP was all that _funny_ either, but c’mon. It was fully intended to be satirical. I have no sympathy for anyone who refuses to dig deeper and follow links in order to educate themselves about what is being discussed. > > Even if the guy was serious, people should still follow the links to see where the information came from. To not do so is pathetic. So, sure, **Rhythymdvl** is no Jon Stewart, but, though I normally blame the “comedian” when a joke falls flat, this is one case where I do blame the few members of the audience that willfully refused to use critical thinking. Sure, I can use critical thinking. And my critical thinking is that using racist language to be funny makes you an asshole. I followed the links first, and _meh_. I don’t get why a (failed) _attempt_ at a “whoosh” makes racist language Ok. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2012, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-a-racist-but-i-have-some-strong-opinions-on-rabbis/622549/69 "2012-05-22T04:55:09Z")
Honestly, I wasn’t trying to be funny at all in the OP. It was a conscious choice as to how to frame it (not that the choice was optimal). I figured I could either directly pit or, because the question of whether or not it actually was racist was in the air, to put it out and see whether I was overreacting or not. Though pretty confident that my repugnance was warranted, enough pits have gone the wrong way to want to check. To remain as ostensibly neutral as possible (well, neutral as possible given the context), I tried adding as little of my own input as possible. Where I did add something, I split the line to separate sections (the “you may respond” was based on \*\* Farmer Jane\*\*’s post). My initial inclination was to not even attach posters’ names to the quotes—pretty much to avoid any potential baggage that people might have already. But I thought that the ‘reveal’ as it were would be too cutesy. Oh wait … bite me. ETA: Second post came in before I saw it. Double bite me, you sanctimonious prick. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2012, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-a-racist-but-i-have-some-strong-opinions-on-rabbis/622549/70 "2012-05-22T04:59:52Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Sure, I can use critical thinking. And my critical thinking is that using racist language to be funny makes you an asshole. > > I followed the links first, and _meh_. > > I don’t get why a (failed) _attempt_ at a “whoosh” makes racist language Ok. Well, not all of us have such a stick-up-our-asses about [whooshes](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=529372). It’s not our fault you’re a complete retard. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2012, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-a-racist-but-i-have-some-strong-opinions-on-rabbis/622549/71 "2012-05-22T05:27:05Z")
First off, **DrDeth** , you’re just looking for something to be offended about. Shut the fuck up. It ain’t here. My second point has nothing to do with you. **Rhythymdvl** , you’re OP did kinda suck, > [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > Honestly, I wasn’t trying to be funny at all in the OP. It was a conscious choice as to how to frame it (not that the choice was optimal). I figured I could either directly pit or, because the question of whether or not it actually was racist was in the air, to put it out and see whether I was overreacting or not. Before you went straight in to a word for word parody, you should have led with something that at least hints at the satire. Racism is a touchy subject and you probably shouldn’t have buried the links by putting them at the end. However, nobody with a brain should believe you’re an antii-semite once they read all of your OP. We do have some knee jerk idiots who won’t read it all, but, well, fuck 'em. So, points off for the OP construction, but I think that has little to do with your larger point. My advice is to go back to talking about how wrong **Condescending Robot** is. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2012, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-a-racist-but-i-have-some-strong-opinions-on-rabbis/622549/72 "2012-05-22T06:26:48Z")
> [@dngnb8](#): > > I dont hate, but Im going to post a hate filled rant based on hate. > I love how people think making the qualifying statement “I dont” changes the post Yanno, I try really hard not to “hear” your username as “dingbat”, but then I read what you write, and, well… ---
**Author:** ![dngnb8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@dngnb8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dngnb8)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2012, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-a-racist-but-i-have-some-strong-opinions-on-rabbis/622549/73 "2012-05-22T16:21:00Z")
> [@Cheshire\_Human](#): > > Yep. Drooling moron. I called it first (at least in _this_ tread). > > Dude, seriously, you’re looking for offense where there ain’t none. Youre over looking offense where there is some. > [@](#): > > There _are_ Christians, here. And Jews (of every variety), and even some _ **muslims** _. So? > [@](#): > > The OP was just upset that people went off on “Black” preachers. As though they are different from “White Preachers”. So he pointed out the racism. Did I rebuke that? > [@](#): > > I doubt he _cares_ about the religion aspect at all. So his rant below on faith in general was a lie? > [@](#): > > I can forgive the insistence that everyone is “Dr. The Rabbi” whatever–the sort of Pokemon-like accumulation of meaningless degrees from intellectually worthless Bible colleges is hardly unique to any religious group in the world. Yeah, no hate here the above quote. None at all. … \ > [@](#): > > But if he does, you probably got it wrong. Yeah, I can see how I misunderstood the part I quoted. > [@](#): > > That would be the “drooling moron” I mentioned. You’re an idiot. Stop being surprised when people call you on that. > > ETA: I see he can’t understand where he went wrong. Fool! Ironic ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2012, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-a-racist-but-i-have-some-strong-opinions-on-rabbis/622549/74 "2012-05-22T16:39:24Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > They need to do way instain nazi who kill thier rabbys. because these rabby cant frigth back? I think rabbi is a pretty cool guy. eh keeps kohser and doesnt afraid of anything. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2012, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-a-racist-but-i-have-some-strong-opinions-on-rabbis/622549/75 "2012-05-22T16:42:42Z")
> [@BubbaDog](#): > > Bugs was cleared of all wrong doing. But Harvey is a douche. Where do we stand on Peter? ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2012, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-a-racist-but-i-have-some-strong-opinions-on-rabbis/622549/76 "2012-05-22T17:04:48Z")
> [@Kimballkid](#): > > Where do we stand on Peter? Typically regular Pitizens tend to end up stepping firmly on their own peters. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2012, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-a-racist-but-i-have-some-strong-opinions-on-rabbis/622549/77 "2012-05-22T17:35:56Z")
**dngnb8** , you’re either in for a large forehead-smacking moment or everyone is talking past each other and actually saying the same thing. Here’s the whole chain of events; perhaps that will help. CR and Q posted in a thread about religion. They received a note from TnD telling them to take it to another thread (a _note_, not a warning). CR opened an ATMB thread questioning it. As a side point, it was pointed out that, among other things, CR’ and Q’s noted posts came across as racist. A bit of back-and-forth ensued about whether or not the were/were not racist (mhendo was involved, which is why I think he took this thread as a personal attack; hopefully he now understands it wasn’t intended that way). To highlight the issue, I merely changed “black” with “Jew.” The question over racist/not persisted, and thinking it was a) a sidetrack to CR’s ATMB thread, and b) likely to stray from what’s allowed in ATMB, I put it in the Pit. Not to vent at anyone per se, but to carry on in a less constrained fashion. So in an attempt to remain as neutral as possible (whether fully successful or not is irrelevant), I remained **as true to the original posts as possible** , only changing terms that referred to black people/preachers with words that referred to Jewish people. The idea was, as noted by another poster above (so it seems it wasn’t entirely opaque) was that by changing the subject only the inherent repugnance (or what I thought as repugnance) would be clear. So, your posts: Are you expressing indignation at CR and Q (or some mix of the two) about their below-the-surface racist attitudes? Do you find them innocuous and are outraged at the assertion? Have you–until now–been conflating the subject of the thread and mis-attributed sentiments to the OP that should be directed at CR/Q? Something else? Now that we’re done with the vivisection… \*\*This thread will end in 28 days… 6 hours… 42 minutes… 12 seconds. \*\* ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2012, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-a-racist-but-i-have-some-strong-opinions-on-rabbis/622549/78 "2012-05-22T18:04:17Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Yanno, I try really hard not to “hear” your username as “dingbat”, but then I read what you write, and, well… What is it supposed to be, anyway? Dingenbate? Dong 'n Bate? Den-jen-bate? Ding nubbate? D & G & Bate? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2012, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-a-racist-but-i-have-some-strong-opinions-on-rabbis/622549/79 "2012-05-22T18:06:49Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > What is it supposed to be, anyway? Dingenbate? Dong 'n Bate? Den-jen-bate? Ding nubbate? D & G & Bate? dungeon bait? ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2012, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-a-racist-but-i-have-some-strong-opinions-on-rabbis/622549/80 "2012-05-22T18:40:58Z")
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