# I'm not crazy...YOU'RE the one who's crazy! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 18, 2009, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450 "2009-07-18T16:21:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/61 "2009-07-20T16:48:54Z")
> [@KGS](#): > > he keeps trying to trick me into taking “anti-crazy” meds. Like, he recommended **Seroquel** to “help me sleep”; I looked it up and it’s an atypical antipsychotic! With dangerous side effects up the ying-yang! Sorry, I’ll stick with weed, protein drinks, and my energy healer, thank you very much… Just piping in to say a roommate of mine in college took Seroquel. It IS actually prescribed for insomnia and has a few other applications that have nothing to do with its effectiveness as an anti-psychotic. Yes, it is an atypical-antipsychotic, but it’s often prescribed for other things. ETA: IIRC, the side effects are more likely to occur at the intense level prescribed for psychosis and the risks are no where nears as great at the low doses recommeded for insomnia and other things. My roomie took like 10% of what would have been prescribed to someone who suffered schizophrenia. He took it for an anxiety disorder. ---
**Author:** ![supergoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@supergoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/supergoose)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/62 "2009-07-20T16:51:13Z")
> [@KGS](#): > > Dude…you don’t even want to know how fucked up my family is. They have invested so much energy in convincing everyone that I’m “crazy”, that they’re practically on red alert right now, trying to pin me down again. Problem is – I’m not “acting” crazy enough for them to 5150 me again. So they have no way out of this mess except to let me act the way I want to act, and connect with new people against their will. > > In fact, I’m thinking about goading my supposedly “sane” brother into flipping out so I can 5150 _him_, just to be a punk. Now there’s a crazy person – he’s totally disconnected, has no friends beyond his WoW guild, and lately has been complaining about how his best friend from high school apparently stole his identity. Thing is, he will provide NO supporting evidence that it actually happened, and I’m starting to think he’s just gone completely bonkers. It’s like the negative energy that was focused on me has to find another target, you know? I’m genuinely concerned for his sanity right now. Why bother quoting the question if you weren’t going to answer it? As for your second paragraph, mental illness or not, you are a bitter, vindictive asshole. If you’re so genuinely concerned for your brother’s sanity, how about extending some compassion and trying to help him? But no, you’d rather continue heartily giving your entire family the middle finger and “goad” him into “flipping out” so you can treat him the way you contend your evil family has treated you. Except I seriously doubt they had to goad you into acting crazy. You can clearly manage that one all on your own. Thank God I’m not one of your relatives. ---
**Author:** ![Dripping](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d2c977/32.png) [@Dripping](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dripping)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/63 "2009-07-20T17:24:35Z")
> [@](#): > > _ **So, KGS, since you are no longer “crazy” will you be sending back those disability checks from now on?** _ > [@](#): > > Fuck off, newbie. And pray that you never meet my family, What does a Doper having met or not met your family have to do with you committing disability fraud? ---
**Author:** ![BlinkingDuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BlinkingDuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlinkingDuck)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/64 "2009-07-20T17:42:15Z")
> [@KGS](#): > > Recently I’ve made some dramatic changes in my life, not only in my living situation but in my personal and professional situation as well. I’ve conquered many of my inner demons (there’s still a few to deal with, but it’s a mop-up operation by now) and I’m connecting with new people left and right. My future looks brighter than at any time before (despite some bumps in the road), and I’m committed to a new achievable goal, even though I’m still taking it one day at a time at this point. > > Naturally, this new re-awakening has caused me to act differently. And now I’m starting to understand that my previous shut-in, disconnected lifestyle has _entirely_ to do with toxic family relationships. You see, I was saddled with the “crazy” label at a very young age, starting at age six when I was tested for autism, and continuing onward far into my adult life. It’s clear that my toxic family desired a scapegoat, and it’s really bothering them that [the goat they cast out into the desert to be consumed by Azazel](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scapegoat#Etymology) has not only escaped the desert, he has brought Azazel back with him…literarily. 😉 > > So…have any of my friends and family aided me in my brand-new quickening? Yes, a few have done so, and I thank them. But for the most part, I’m getting questions from close family & friends like, “Are you sleeping regular hours?” and “Maybe you should get your medication re-evaluated,” and “You’re acting crazy again” – all based on their observation that I’ve become _different_. Well, guess what you morons…I’m not crazy anymore. I was _never_ crazy. Sure, perhaps I have a history of acting & talking “crazy” in the past, since that’s how I was programmed – but I’ve busted the program, I’ve navigated the matrix of my own personal demons and re-connected directly with The System – that is, the world where emotionally healthy human beings exist and interact with each other. Now that I’ve got a handle on the rules, it’s not so hard, in fact it feels downright natural. > > So, to all of those friends & family who keep suggesting I go back to my cave because they prefer me that way…fuck you. Fuck you, and goodbye. I’m following my own path, and frankly, it’s about bloody time – and if it wasn’t for you toxic, selfish people who desire a scapegoated “crazy person” to feel better about yourselves (in a Munchausen-by-proxy sense) I would have broken free a long, long time ago. Sure hope there’s enough time left to acquire my goals and fulfill my dreams. And I pity you all, you idiots who are left scrambling for another scapegoat upon whom to focus your toxic, negative energy. And maybe YOU should get some extra sleep!!! (There! How do ya like them apples?) > > So to all friends & family who don’t want to sit at my table or invest in my future, all I’ve gotta say is: See ya, wouldn’t wanna be ya! 🆒 😃 That’s just crazy talk. ---
**Author:** ![Small\_Hen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@Small\_Hen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Hen)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/65 "2009-07-20T17:47:23Z")
> [@KGS](#): > > In fact, I’m thinking about goading my supposedly “sane” brother into flipping out so I can 5150 _him_, just to be a punk. … I’m genuinely concerned for his sanity right now. “One of these things is not like the other…” ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/66 "2009-07-20T17:51:58Z")
> [@Small\_Hen](#): > > “One of these things is not like the other…” Heh, **KGS** wants to use the system to fuck over his brother for some vendetta. Yeah, not crazy at all. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/67 "2009-07-20T18:13:13Z")
_reads thread_ Yes you are. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/68 "2009-07-20T18:13:46Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > _reads thread_ > > Yes you are. Just give me my fucking Pepsi! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/69 "2009-07-20T18:15:27Z")
It doesn’t matter. You’ll probably get hit by a car anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Dripping](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d2c977/32.png) [@Dripping](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dripping)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/70 "2009-07-20T18:43:52Z")
> [@KGS](#): > > Dude…you don’t even want to know how fucked up my family is. They have invested so much energy in convincing everyone that I’m “crazy”, that they’re practically on red alert right now, trying to pin me down again. Problem is – I’m not “acting” crazy enough for them to 5150 me again. So **they have no way out of this mess** except to let me act the way I want to act Bolding mine. I missed that little gem earlier. So I’ll amend my comment about feeling sorry for you and for your family. What I should have said is that you are a vicious, vindictive asshole and your poor family are to be very pitied for having to put up with you. ---
**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/71 "2009-07-20T18:56:41Z")
What is the Pepsi thing? ---
**Author:** ![Dripping](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d2c977/32.png) [@Dripping](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dripping)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/72 "2009-07-20T19:15:56Z")
> [@Beadalin](#): > > What is the Pepsi thing? I don’t get it either. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/73 "2009-07-20T19:24:45Z")
The [Pepsi thing](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutionalized_(song)). ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/74 "2009-07-20T19:27:48Z")
> [@Dripping](#): > > I don’t get it either. 😕 deleted. Got scooped. ---
**Author:** ![Small\_Hen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@Small\_Hen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Hen)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/75 "2009-07-20T19:28:14Z")
> [@Dripping](#): > > I don’t get it either. 😕 It’s from a song called “Institutionalized” in which a guy goes off into screaming rages when things don’t go his way (like his mom wont get him a Pepsi). At one point, he screams, “I’m not crazy! YOURE the one who’s crazy!” The tone of the song is a lot like the tone of this thread, actually. ---
**Author:** ![Dripping](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d2c977/32.png) [@Dripping](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dripping)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/76 "2009-07-20T19:41:44Z")
> [@Small\_Hen](#): > > It’s from a song called “Institutionalized” in which a guy goes off into screaming rages when things don’t go his way (like his mom wont get him a Pepsi). At one point, he screams, “I’m not crazy! YOURE the one who’s crazy!” The tone of the song is a lot like the tone of this thread, actually. Ok, now it makes sense. 😃 +++++++ Would LOL again. ---
**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/77 "2009-07-20T19:44:51Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Nathaniel? Yeah, who’s Nathaniel? ---
**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/78 "2009-07-20T20:52:20Z")
> [@Small\_Hen](#): > > It’s from a song called “Institutionalized” in which a guy goes off into screaming rages when things don’t go his way (like his mom wont get him a Pepsi). At one point, he screams, “I’m not crazy! YOURE the one who’s crazy!” The tone of the song is a lot like the tone of this thread, actually. Ah. It all comes together. ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/79 "2009-07-20T20:53:01Z")
> [@supergoose](#): > > If you’re so genuinely concerned for your brother’s sanity, how about extending some compassion and trying to help him? I _have_ offered to help him, jerkwad. He’s refused all help, and responds with personal attacks when I ask if he wants my help. And now I’m one step away from disconnecting from him completely – which means he will have NO friends at all, and frankly, since our argument last night, that doesn’t bother me at all. He needs me far more than I need him, but there are limits to the type of behavior I’ll accept from people in my life. :mad: > [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](#): > > Just piping in to say a roommate of mine in college took Seroquel. It IS actually prescribed for insomnia and has a few other applications that have nothing to do with its effectiveness as an anti-psychotic. Yes, it is an atypical-antipsychotic, but it’s often prescribed for other things. > > ETA: IIRC, the side effects are more likely to occur at the intense level prescribed for psychosis and the risks are no where nears as great at the low doses recommeded for insomnia and other things. My roomie took like 10% of what would have been prescribed to someone who suffered schizophrenia. He took it for an anxiety disorder. Well, I’ll take your word for it…but my body reacts strangely to medication. For example, I can’t take Ambien – well, I _can_ take it, but instead of putting me to sleep, it gets me wired. Which is good for cleaning the bathroom at 3 a.m., but not so good for it’s supposed prescribed effect, ya know? 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/80 "2009-07-20T20:54:35Z")
I finally got my Pepsi with lunch. It was good. Now I don’t have to worry about going crazy again for a while. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450.md?page=5)