# I'm not crazy...YOU'RE the one who's crazy!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 18, 2009, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450 "2009-07-18T16:21:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/81 "2009-07-20T20:55:25Z")

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> [@Dripping](#):
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> What does a Doper having met or not met your family have to do with you committing disability fraud?

Fraud? What fraud? I’m genuinely disabled, and you’re a genuine sock puppet. I’ve got your number, so respond to my PM if you want to keep talking, motherfucker.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/82 "2009-07-20T20:57:42Z")

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I had _two_ Pepsis.

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**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/83 "2009-07-20T21:03:24Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> _reads thread_
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> Yes you are.

And you’re living up to your username.

> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> It doesn’t matter. You’ll probably get hit by a car anyway.

Haha. Wanna meet Nathaniel? He’s a bit punch-drunk right now, but he could use a new toy to play with, and he likes Florida. Wanna play? 😃

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/84 "2009-07-20T21:07:09Z")

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Another not-a-doctor-but-I’ve-seen-shit-like-this vote for “KGS is fucking nuts.” You can chalk me up for a token Suis reference, too.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/85 "2009-07-20T21:10:29Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I had _two_ Pepsis.

Hey now, don’t get crazy.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/86 "2009-07-20T21:16:43Z")

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I’d like a Coke!

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/87 "2009-07-20T21:17:42Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> I’d like a Coke!

Psycho!

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/88 "2009-07-20T21:18:34Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> I’d like a Coke!

No Coke! Pepsi 0nly!

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/89 "2009-07-20T22:12:37Z")

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_People are strange when youre a stranger  
Faces look ugly when youre alone  
Women seem wicked when youre unwanted  
Streets are uneven when youre down  
When youre strange  
Faces come out of the rain  
When youre strange  
No one remembers your name_  
(And I had a Dr. Pepper. I FINALLY found Caffeine-Free!!! Score!!!)

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**Author:** ![Dripping](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d2c977/32.png) [@Dripping](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dripping)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/90 "2009-07-20T22:18:57Z")

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> [@KGS](#):
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> Fraud? What fraud? I’m genuinely disabled

Here is a quote from one of your posts yesterday:

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> I’m on psychological disability (or rather, I was forced by various parental forces into acquiring the “disabled” status as punishment for living a normal life and being happy – long story) I’m required to be under the care of a medical doctor, in this case a psychiatrist.

Again, how do you rationalize continuing to accept free money for this bogus psychological disability you either never had or no longer have?

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**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/91 "2009-07-20T22:24:11Z")

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Every time, I come into the Pit, I can’t help but read the title of the thread in the voices of those two arguing kids in that old Life cereal commercial.

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/92 "2009-07-20T22:51:23Z")

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> [@KGS](#):
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> Well, I’ll take your word for it…but my body reacts strangely to medication. For example, I can’t take Ambien – well, I _can_ take it, but instead of putting me to sleep, it gets me wired. Which is good for cleaning the bathroom at 3 a.m., but not so good for it’s supposed prescribed effect, ya know? 🆒

You’re not supposed to mix Ambien and marijuana. Surely you knew that… but maybe not.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/93 "2009-07-20T23:28:12Z")

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> [@Rubystreak](#):
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> You’re not supposed to mix Ambien and marijuana. Surely you knew that… but maybe not.

Do you think he cares?

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/94 "2009-07-20T23:29:33Z")

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Isn’t ambien the sort of drug that you take topically? Like if you can’t sleep one night you pop an ambien? Not something that you take on a night you can sleep.

That being said I’d imagine that mixing marijuana and ambien is probably pretty common.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/95 "2009-07-20T23:38:37Z")

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Yes. Symptoms include waking up with no memory of how your bong got broken.

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/96 "2009-07-20T23:38:53Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> Isn’t ambien the sort of drug that you take topically? Like if you can’t sleep one night you pop an ambien? Not something that you take on a night you can sleep.

Some people take it every night for years and years. It can and is prescribed that way.

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> That being said I’d imagine that mixing marijuana and ambien is probably pretty common.

I’m sure it is, but it has some very weird side effects. If KGS is going to bitch and moan about the side effects of other psycho-reactive drugs, then he shouldn’t be mixing Ambien with marijuana, because those side effects are very real and can be rather counterproductive considering the purpose of Ambien.

> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Yes. Symptoms include waking up with no memory of how your bong got broken.

No recollection of who drank the bong water and ate all the Doritos, more likely.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/97 "2009-07-20T23:41:03Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> Isn’t ambien the sort of drug that you take topically?

I do not think that word means what you think it means. “Topical” in the medical sense means “applied to the skin or mucous membranes”, like a sore throat spray or eye drops, rather than orally or as a suppository or inhalant.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/98 "2009-07-20T23:56:05Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I do not think that word means what you think it means. “Topical” in the medical sense means “applied to the skin or mucous membranes”, like a sore throat spray or eye drops, rather than orally or as a suppository or inhalant.

Yes, I knew I was using it wrong in the back of my mind. Thanks. 😉 But you all understood what I meant. 😉

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/99 "2009-07-20T23:57:33Z")

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> [@Rubystreak](#):
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> Some people take it every night for years and years. It can and is prescribed that way.

It’s weird that Doctors medicate the symptoms but don’t seek the underlying causes in situations like that.

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> I’m sure it is, but it has some very weird side effects. If KGS is going to bitch and moan about the side effects of other psycho-reactive drugs, then he shouldn’t be mixing Ambien with marijuana, because those side effects are very real and can be rather counterproductive considering the purpose of Ambien.

Yes, that is true.

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> No recollection of who drank the bong water and ate all the Doritos, more likely.

Heh, I think you’re better off mixing ambien and marijuana than drinking the bong water. No amount of Doritos can wash that away. 😉

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-crazy-youre-the-one-whos-crazy/503450/100 "2009-07-21T00:09:22Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> It’s weird that Doctors medicate the symptoms but don’t seek the underlying causes in situations like that.

Sometimes, there is no cause. I had idiopathic insomnia, with a delayed sleep phase. Ambien forces you to go to sleep at the same time, whether you are tired or not, so you take it every night. However, since I got pregnant, I haven’t taken it, and it turns out that I didn’t need it as much as I thought I did. Sometimes, however, I still really do, and just have to suffer.

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> Heh, I think you’re better off mixing ambien and marijuana than drinking the bong water. No amount of Doritos can wash that away. 😉

Ambien can make you eat and drink weird things, and lots of them. It also doesn’t play well with other drugs. Once, I was taking Vicodin for severe back pain, and mixed it with Ambien. Like KGS, I wound up cleaning the whole house overnight, and hardly remembering it. I woke up exhausted, sore, with a clean house. It was like being possessed or something. I’d never do that again. In fact, I’m pretty sure Ambien is evil. KGS is better off smoking pot to fall asleep than taking Ambien anyway, in my totally layman’s opinion.

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