# I'm not giving up my seat

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 16, 2013, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431 "2013-01-16T22:34:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/781 "2013-01-20T03:59:17Z")

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> [@Cheshire\_Human](#):
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> And thanks for pointing out the spelling error. It’s been sitting there for three years now, and I never noticed. I’ll go fix it. :p:p:p

I also noticed an error of clarity, while I was at it, and changed:

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> Occupation: Self-anointed blasphemer of YOUR chosen god, whomever that might be (unless it’s mine).

to:

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> Occupation: Self-anointed blasphemer of YOUR chosen god, whomever that might be (unless it’s ALSO mine).

Ya know, just to make it _more_ clear what I’m trolling. Goddamn, I hate the fact that I’ve had my ass showing for the past three years. Thanks for pointing it out for me, **Troppus** , you dickhead. Oh, yeah. My DOB is in my profile, too, so where the fuck you got “sixteen”, I’ll never know.

Anyway, to further quote my profile:

“I also try to disappear leaving only a smile, just like the Cheshire Cat.”

Bye bye…

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**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/782 "2013-01-20T03:59:18Z")

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> [@don\_t\_ask](#):
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> It’s hardly mind reading. You’ve racked up 139 posts justifying your refusal to move and use up the “buffer” seat.

Post 773. Read it.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/783 "2013-01-20T04:07:12Z")

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> [@l1I235](#):
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> Post 773. Read it.

All I get from that is that, according to, and entirely dependent upon, your feeling at the time. you may possibly deign to move. In this case you chose “the buffer seat remains.” Or is that not what 773 means?

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**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/784 "2013-01-20T04:11:51Z")

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What’s with people in this thread, and the refusual to read?

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> In scenario 2, I just would not care. I probably would have barely noticed.
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> I don’t give any parts of damn about buffer seats. If they individually took them, I would not have cared.

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**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/785 "2013-01-20T04:24:36Z")

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> [@l1I235](#):
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> What’s with people in this thread, and the refusual to read?

Mademoiselle, I will try to be nice about it as I can.

I think you should have moved. It was an effortless move and everything could have been nice and peaceful. You see, it is a good idea to seize the opportunities to be nice life gives us. Not only do you make others happy, but happiness you get from the satisfaction is even more than of the people you presented your niceness to.

I know you are frustrated about posting the same thing over and over again, but what many are trying to tell you in response is that it was almost an effortless move - therefore you should have done it. It is about time society became more courteous in general. While I believe that society is actually doing pretty well, they can still do better.

At the same time, don’t let it get to you. Everyone makes mistakes. It is what you do about them that counts.

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**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/786 "2013-01-20T04:29:17Z")

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> [@Anonymous User](#):
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> Mademoiselle, I will try to be nice about it as I can.
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> I think you should have moved. It was an effortless move and everything could have been nice and peaceful. You see, it is a good idea to seize the opportunities to be nice life gives us. Not only do you make others happy, but happiness you get from the satisfaction is even more than of the people you presented your niceness to.
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> I know you are frustrated about posting the same thing over and over again, but what many are trying to tell you in response is that it was almost an effortless move - therefore you should have done it. It is about time society became more courteous in general. While I believe that society is actually doing pretty well, they can still do better.
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> At the same time, don’t let it get to you. Everyone makes mistakes. It is what you do about them that counts.

Anonymous user, at 15 years old, you made one of the more mature posts with a dissenting point of view in this thread. I commend you on that.

Though we still disagree, I see your point of view, and thank you for your comments. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/787 "2013-01-20T04:39:42Z")

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> [@l1I235](#):
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> Though we still disagree, I see your point of view, and thank you for your comments. 🙂

_Kumbya, my lord, Kumbya…_

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**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/788 "2013-01-20T04:46:39Z")

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> [@Cheshire\_Human](#):
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> _Kumbya, my lord, Kumbya…_

C’mon man, he’s 15, give him a break.

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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/789 "2013-01-20T04:48:15Z")

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I bet his English teacher thinks he’s exceptional.

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/790 "2013-01-20T04:55:30Z")

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> [@l1I235](#):
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> C’mon man, he’s 15, give him a break.

Which arm?

ETA: Or leg. I could break a leg, instead.

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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/791 "2013-01-20T04:56:30Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> If there’s empty rows, sit in a damn empty row.

The social convention is to shift 1 seat.

The first 5 rows are for when all other seats are taken.

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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/792 "2013-01-20T05:04:45Z")

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> [@l1I235](#):
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> You’re obviously baiting me, but since others are asking the same questions again and again.

Not at all, it was a serious prediction based on your previous responses.

Thank you for the trailer point, I had missed that.

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> Like I said, people like you are obviously not the kind to actually put in the effort to get what you want. Like the latecomers.

Clearly you did not put in the effort to even read my post as I already acknowledged you answered the 10 minutes early question.

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**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/793 "2013-01-20T05:08:25Z")

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> [@l1I235](#):
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> C’mon man, he’s 15, give him a break.

I guess, but it was Anonymous User who pitted you in the first pace.

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**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/794 "2013-01-20T05:11:08Z")

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> [@Aquadementia](#):
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> I guess, but it was Anonymous User who pitted you in the first pace.

I realize that. But he’s still just 15.

Do I agree with the pitting? Not really. Is it nice that of the people who went OTT in this thread, that one who apologized, and went on to make his point in a cool collected way was the 15 year old? Yeah.

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**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/795 "2013-01-20T05:18:06Z")

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> [@RaftPeople](#):
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> Not at all, it was a serious prediction based on your previous responses.
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> Thank you for the trailer point, I had missed that.
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> Clearly you did not put in the effort to even read my post as I already acknowledged you answered the 10 minutes early question.

I also answered the “what if \_\_\_\_\_ happened to them?” question. I answered all of them.

You are the one who did not put in the effort. When you said, twice, that your questions had not been previously answered. When they had. I apparently had to quote myself to prove it.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/796 "2013-01-20T05:22:52Z")

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Refresher for those just joining us

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> … the theater filled up, except the first 5 rows which remained mostly empty. A group of friends sat next to SO, leaving an empty buffer seat by his side. Two friends sat next to me at the end of the row, and also left an empty buffer seat on my side… About 3-5 minutes into the film, a couple enters the theater. They walk up the stairs to our row, and walk through the row from the left side (remember, we are on the right side), and looks at me …

Two people want two seats together. You can accommodate them with about three seconds effort; do you do so?

Similar questions arise often. You’re emptying a large shopping basket at the supermarket when someone (a diabetic?) shows up wanting to buy a single chocolate bar. Do you let him cut in? A driver is blocking traffic signalling for a turn, but no one will let him in. Do you slow down and motion him over? Or teach him a lesson? Someone is running to get on your elevator. Do you push the Open Door button? Or the Close Door button? After all, you waited a minute for the elevator and will lose four more seconds if you push Open. A stranger smiles as he passes you. Do you smile back? Or say “Fuck You”?

OP stresses that the couple are approaching your seats from the wrong side. Does she think that’s deliberate?? If their vision is at all like mine, they stood for a while growing accustomed to the dark before even knowing which seats were empty.

OP stresses that the movie’s already started. This makes it _more important_ to be gracious – the newcomers are already disturbing viewers and OP’s behavior will just increase the disturbance.

> [@l1I235](#):
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> Anonymous user, at 15 years old, you made one of the more mature posts with a dissenting point of view in this thread. I commend you on that.
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> Though we still disagree, I see your point of view, and thank you for your comments. 🙂

**mademoiselle** and I are in full agreement here. A difference is that while **Anonymous user** offers excellent advice, _which applies to many of life’s little encounters_, Mlle is unable to accept that teaching. She keeps referring us to #773. I expected it to have much wisdom, but …

> [@l1I235](#):
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> You’re obviously baiting me, but since others are asking the same questions again and again.
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> You’ve got to be fucking kidding me.
> 
> Very well, I will spell it out for you.
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> Like I said, people like you are obviously not the kind to actually put in the effort to get what you want. Like the latecomers.

_This_ is the important post #773 which is to answer all our questions? :smack: It could have been posted word-for-word in a diatribe against UHC, which would provide undeserved care to lazy niggers.

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**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/797 "2013-01-20T05:29:09Z")

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I get your point, you disagree with what I did, fair enough.

> [@septimus](#):
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> It could have been posted word-for-word in a diatribe against UHC, which would provide undeserved care to lazy niggers.

But I don’t want that disgusting word in my thread. I see that you are trying to make a certain point, but find another way to say it.

I am not “being thick”, but I hate that fucking word. Find another way. And don’t bother mocking with faux pc bullshit either.

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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/798 "2013-01-20T05:33:38Z")

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> [@l1I235](#):
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> I also answered the “what if \_\_\_\_\_ happened to them?” question. I answered all of them.

Including the one that I acknowledged you already answered.

Which is kind of weird for you to go to the effort of finding and quoting the posts when you wouldn’t even just answer the questions when I politely asked.

So either you’re not putting in the effort to understand my post, or you have a martyr complex and felt an emotional need to put in the extra and unnecessary labor despite knowing that I had already clearly acknowledged that point.

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**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/799 "2013-01-20T05:37:20Z")

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> [@RaftPeople](#):
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> Including the one that I acknowledged you already answered.
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> Which is kind of weird for you to go to the effort of finding and quoting the posts when you wouldn’t even just answer the questions when I politely asked.
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> So either you’re not putting in the effort to understand my post, or you have a martyr complex and felt an emotional need to put in the extra and unnecessary labor despite knowing that I had already clearly acknowledged that point.

Raft people, I am being asked questions again and again. If you had read the whole thread, you would have not only seen that, you also would have found your answers.

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**Author:** ![resting](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@resting](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/resting)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/800 "2013-01-20T05:45:31Z")

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So are the people who disagree with the op, racists?

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