# I'm not giving up my seat

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 16, 2013, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431 "2013-01-16T22:34:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![colander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@colander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colander)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/881 "2013-01-21T00:32:49Z")

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Nzinga, bitching when the people your “comedy” is insulting tell you that you’re not funny seems like rather poor form. And they are correct, I’m afraid: Constantly repeating an insult that you ganked from another user’s post is actually an extremely unfunny thing to do.

> [@RaftPeople](#):
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> 5 crappy rows in front is “full”.

What a strange thing to say. Is this also comedy? I miss Mitch Hedberg. ☹

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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/882 "2013-01-21T00:55:01Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> Um no we do not. Only if the theater is likely FULL, sold out or nearly so. No crappy seat bit. Five front rows empty IS NOT FULL.

The only time when someone would choose to sit in the 5 empty front rows is exactly when the theater is “full”. As in “the theater was full so I had to sit in the front”.

It’s a term that is not meant to mean that there are precisely zero seats left.

When there are absolutely zero seats left, that’s called completely sold out.

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**Author:** ![Brynda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@Brynda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brynda)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/883 "2013-01-21T01:04:54Z")

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**meaOldLady,** I have disagreed with you, but I haven’t once said your position was socially clueless or stupid. You, on the other hand, can’t seem to stop personally insulting me would you please consider acting like a fucking adult?

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/884 "2013-01-21T01:26:40Z")

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> [@RaftPeople](#):
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> The only time when someone would choose to sit in the 5 empty front rows is exactly when the theater is “full”. As in “the theater was full so I had to sit in the front”.
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> It’s a term that is not meant to mean that there are precisely zero seats left.
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> When there are absolutely zero seats left, that’s called completely sold out.

If you say so, Humpty. That is what you choose it to mean – neither more nor less. I just don’t know whether you can make words mean so many different things …

Curiouser and curiouser this place is … Cheshire humans making Holocaust “jokes” and slowly disappearing leaving no smiles left behind … I must be mad or I wouldn’t have come here.

**Brynda** she’s too busy masturbating in hope God will kill some kittens to get involved in that sort of mutually consensual activity, even as an act.

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**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/885 "2013-01-21T01:27:24Z")

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> [@Brynda](#):
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> **meaOldLady,** I have disagreed with you, but I haven’t once said your position was socially clueless or stupid. You, on the other hand, can’t seem to stop personally insulting me would you please consider acting like a fucking adult?

Yes I agree. Even though I agree with her, she seems to be taking it so far that she’s broken the Pit rules. People were actually waiting for her to get her Mod note.

MOL, I agree with you, but you should tone down the harshness in your posts.

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**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/886 "2013-01-21T01:48:18Z")

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> [@l1I235](#):
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> Do you have anything to back this up, other than your opinon? Because faithfool did the numbers, and in this very thread, the majority think I did nothing wrong.

Are you not going to acknowlge this, raftpeople?

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/887 "2013-01-21T01:48:27Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> **Brynda** she’s too busy masturbating in hope God will kill some kittens…

This is only partially correct.

Seriously now, how am I supposed to describe maladjusted behaviors? Am I just not supposed to bring it up? You might not like it, but failure to understand even basic social norms is being socially clueless. I’ll happily admit to not always acting like a grown up (I’ll grow up later), but describing your “Never going to move, no no no! I earned this seat and you can’t have it!” behavior as clueless is just accurate. Part of me wants to say grow thicker skin if this kind of things strikes you as un-adult, but I gotta remember I’m talking to the same person who thinks asking you to please make room so that Bob and Date can sit next to each other is suckering you.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/888 "2013-01-21T01:48:36Z")

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> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#):
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> I wonder what kind of dyslexia allows one to write 100 almost perfect posts in this thread but continually make the same simple grammar mistake over and over again?

Almost perfect?

> [@l1I235](#):
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> Who _ **would of** _ thunk.

> [@l1I235](#):
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> …the person _ **would not of** _ even had to ask.

> [@l1I235](#):
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> They could _ **of** _ come early as we did…

> [@l1I235](#):
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> …they _ **could of** _ come slightly earlier to the film…

> [@l1I235](#):
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> … then I _ **would of** _ been really pissed.

It’s “would have” and “could have” (for New Yorkers that’s “woulda” and “coulda”) and you would have more of my sympathy were it not for this repeated error. And I didn’t make it past the first page before my heart palpitations threatened my life.

> [@l1I235](#):
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> …And I would have.

That you know the correct form makes your continuing misuse all the more egregious. 😉

> [@l1I235](#):
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> Please stop being unkind when I am trying.

Still playing that sympathy card? I’m a pedantic asshole, but you don’t see me begging for sympathy and understanding. 😃

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**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/889 "2013-01-21T01:53:33Z")

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> [@Brynda](#):
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> **meaOldLady,** I have disagreed with you, but I haven’t once said your position was socially clueless or stupid. You, on the other hand, can’t seem to stop personally insulting me would you please consider acting like a fucking adult?

It seems that whoever originally pegged her as one of those people who act big and bad on the internet to make up for her real life inadequacies had her pegged.

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**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/890 "2013-01-21T01:55:39Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Almost perfect?
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> It’s “would have” and “could have” (for New Yorkers that’s “woulda” and “coulda”) and you would have more of my sympathy were it not for this repeated error. And I didn’t make it past the first page before my heart palpitations threatened my life.  
> That you know the correct form makes your continuing misuse all the more egregious. 😉  
> Still playing that sympathy card? I’m a pedantic asshole, but you don’t see me begging for sympathy and understanding. 😃

How many times to I have to say I acknowledge my mistakes, apologize, and say I am trying my despite having the issue of dyslexia?

Seriously, lay off already.

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**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/891 "2013-01-21T01:57:54Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Almost perfect?
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> It’s “would have” and “could have” (for New Yorkers that’s “woulda” and “coulda”) and you would have more of my sympathy were it not for this repeated error. And I didn’t make it past the first page before my heart palpitations threatened my life.  
> That you know the correct form makes your continuing misuse all the more egregious. 😉  
> Still playing that sympathy card? I’m a pedantic asshole, but you don’t see me begging for sympathy and understanding. 😃

Oh not again. We have been through this. She has dyslexia. Are you going to keep embarrassing her like that?

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**Author:** ![colander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@colander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colander)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/892 "2013-01-21T02:04:52Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> This is only partially correct.
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> Seriously now, how am I supposed to describe maladjusted behaviors? Am I just not supposed to bring it up? You might not like it, but failure to understand even basic social norms is being socially clueless. I’ll happily admit to not always acting like a grown up (I’ll grow up later), but describing your “Never going to move, no no no! I earned this seat and you can’t have it!” behavior as clueless is just accurate. Part of me wants to say grow thicker skin if this kind of things strikes you as un-adult, but I gotta remember I’m talking to the same person who thinks asking you to please make room so that Bob and Date can sit next to each other is suckering you.

You seem like you’re just looking for reasons to cuss at people.

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**Author:** ![Brynda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@Brynda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brynda)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/893 "2013-01-21T02:05:20Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> This is only partially correct.
> 
> Seriously now, how am I supposed to describe maladjusted behaviors? Am I just not supposed to bring it up? You might not like it, but failure to understand even basic social norms is being socially clueless. I’ll happily admit to not always acting like a grown up (I’ll grow up later), but describing your “Never going to move, no no no! I earned this seat and you can’t have it!” behavior as clueless is just accurate. Part of me wants to say grow thicker skin if this kind of things strikes you as un-adult, but I gotta remember I’m talking to the same person who thinks asking you to please make room so that Bob and Date can sit next to each other is suckering you.

But my social norm is that you arrive on time and don’t ask others to move unless the theater is full. My understanding of the OP is that it wasn’t full. Ergo, the people who were asking her to move were breaking the social norm I know. You think the social norm you know is the only one, but it isn’t. While you were absent from this thread we had an adult discussion. Why don’t you read it? Once again, no matter how much you call me “dickbreath” your opinion is not the capital T truth.

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**Author:** ![colander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@colander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colander)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/894 "2013-01-21T02:07:50Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Almost perfect?
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> It’s “would have” and “could have” (for New Yorkers that’s “woulda” and “coulda”) and you would have more of my sympathy were it not for this repeated error. And I didn’t make it past the first page before my heart palpitations threatened my life.  
> That you know the correct form makes your continuing misuse all the more egregious. 😉  
> Still playing that sympathy card? I’m a pedantic asshole, but you don’t see me begging for sympathy and understanding. 😃

I know it’s a long thread, but if you don’t care enough to read it, why did you decide to post in it?

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**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/895 "2013-01-21T02:23:39Z")

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So, I went to the movies tonight with my boyfriend. The movie had been on for like 5 minutes, and omg, the only seats left were like a bunch of singles, and like the first section of the theatre where the first 5 rows are. And I didn’t want those seats! I like to sit in the back!

So we see this girl and a guy, up in the back, on the middle right of the row. So I cross over everyone’s knees towards these people. I ask the girl if the seat next her is empty. She says yes. I then ask if the seat next to the guy is free. She says yes again.

I say to her, can you move over? She says “Sorry no”. I am like, “why not? She says she’d rather not move. I am like, “what’s the big deal?!”, and she says, “I’m sorry, no” there are 5 empty rows with lots of seats”. I’m like, “I don’t want those!”

So I walk back to the aisle, where my boyfriend is waiting. I tell him that she said no. He says “I’ll handle this.” so he walks across those people again, and I am not sure what happened next, because the movie was so loud, but in the end, he was yelling " what’s your fucking problem! I don’t want those fucking seats down there!"

Her boyfriend says something, and my boyfriend comes back, and says they won’t fucking move. So I say to him, “well, let’s sit there anyway”. So I sit in the seat on the side of her boyfriend. Then my boyfriend comes and stands inform of me, blocking the people behind me, but fuck them. Then some people on the other side move over so we can sit in the seats we want, finally!

I can’t remember if the movie was any good, because I was texting throughout.

## I was late, what’s the big deal? It’s not like nobody is ever late to movies, right?

Don’t tell me you would not have eaten someone alive if they had posted that.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/896 "2013-01-21T02:36:48Z")

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> [@Brynda](#):
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> But my social norm is that you arrive on time and don’t ask others to move unless the theater is full. My understanding of the OP is that it wasn’t full. Ergo, the people who were asking her to move were breaking the social norm I know. You think the social norm you know is the only one, but it isn’t. While you were absent from this thread we had an adult discussion. Why don’t you read it? Once again, no matter how much you call me “dickbreath” your opinion is not the capital T truth.

Right, they could have moved to the seats in the very front that nobody wants to sit in because they’re so close to the screen that you have to sit with your eyes crossed for 90 min (which is why nobody was in them), or they could get some reasonable, comfortable seats next to each other if you’d just move over one lousy seat. Right. We’ve gone over this a jillion times, and while I like repeating myself as much as the next gal, I think I’m going to stop now. Btw, I love your characterization of me constantly insulting you. I don’t even know you are. Your username has never been one I’ve noticed until yesterday. The only person I called a dickface, dickhead, dickbreath or whatever, was colander, and even then, my heart wasn’t in it. I just called him a dickhead (or whatever term I used) because I call people that when they say something dickheaded. But, I mean, it’s already clear that you’re one who feels like you’re being victimized even when you’re not.

Just for fun, here’s a convo I had with a friend of mind who used to post here. Like, real friend. We talk and have hung out and shit. Cool guy, healthy social life, and so on. I’ll put this in spoilers as it takes up a lot of space. NO, this doesn’t prove anything, but it makes me giggle, so here we go.

[spoiler]Me

omg… ZOMG

i have an sdmb moment that i need to share with a normal person

and the only normal person i know who is actually familiar with the board

8:06pm  
Friend

delicious

8:09pm  
Me

a’ight

you’re at the movies, it’s pretty full, there aren’t any seats left except the cross-eyed seats in the front

some people come in 5 min late, look through the theatre, see there are no seats except the ones in the very front, and ask you and the wife lady if you can scoot down one so the couple can sit next to each other

what do you do?

8:10pm  
Friend

uhhh scoot down one

8:10pm  
Me

NO FUCKING SHIT!

GOD!!![/spoiler]

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/897 "2013-01-21T02:38:40Z")

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You would have, mademoiselle, but not by the same people.

Colander, nice try, but the meme is out of the bag. I promise you someone has probably already used it in another thread. Just learn to laugh at yourself and let it go.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/898 "2013-01-21T02:40:26Z")

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Could somebody explain to me how dyslexia leads to the mix up of “have” and “of”? I thought it had more to do with mixing up letters/numbers causing difficulty with reading and writing (and 'rithmetic) but I wasn’t aware of its effects on basic grammar.

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**Author:** ![resting](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@resting](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/resting)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/899 "2013-01-21T02:40:41Z")

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I would have thought the boyfriend was being a macho fool.

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**Author:** ![resting](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@resting](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/resting)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/900 "2013-01-21T02:43:45Z")

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Mean old lady, do you have Tourette’s? Who made you the boss of deciding what is socially acceptable?

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