# I'm not giving up my seat

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 16, 2013, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431 "2013-01-16T22:34:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1281 "2013-01-22T19:21:17Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Did we ever find out what movie it was?

Y’know? I was gonna say that it’s not relevant…but I thought of one situation where it really, truly is. If she’s at a normal movie, the pouty shit she spewed is obviously unreasonable.

But if she was at a porno, say, _Prehistoric Ass-Pounding III: The Flintbones in Hard-As-Rock Cafe, Rock Vegas Style_, she’s perfectly right to want to refuse to give up her buffer zone. Per Emily Post, it’s de rigueur to insist on a buffer zone at a porno, unless one wishes to become…friendlier.

So mademoiselle, what’d you go see? Was it _Backdoor Sluts 9_? or what? Because if it was, I think most of your detractors will change their tune pretty damn toot sweet.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1282 "2013-01-22T19:26:09Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> Yes or no question… were 3D glasses involved in the viewing of this movie? Whether or not there were, would you feel that would be a mitigating factor with this kind of situation? I can tell you that I’ve sat in the front 5 rows for a 3D movie (Avatar, 3rd row, I believe) and it sucked balls.

I find it interesting that **mademoiselle** avoided answering this.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1283 "2013-01-22T19:26:14Z")

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> [@l1I235](#):
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> Apparently it equals a definitive statement in MOL’s world.

_headdesk_

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1284 "2013-01-22T19:27:26Z")

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> [@l1I235](#):
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> Here you go, MOL. I got this from those dickheads over at Oxford.

> [@](#):
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> mademoiselle [ˌmædmwəˈzɛl (French) madmwazɛl]  
> n pl mesdemoiselles [ˌmeɪdmwəˈzɛl (French) medmwazɛl]
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> 1. a young unmarried French girl or woman: usually used as a title equivalent to Miss
> 2. a French teacher or governess

Are you a young unmarried French girl or woman? Or maybe a French teacher or governess?

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1285 "2013-01-22T19:28:00Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> It’s kind of odd - one doesn’t really trump the other. They operate in overlapping ranges and it’s up to people to negotiate them without an established guidebook. Some are better at it than others. Some get all worked up, anxious, angry and intransigent about the whole process.

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mademoiselle\*\* politely declined.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1286 "2013-01-22T19:40:37Z")

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> [@gigi](#):
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> \*\*  
> mademoiselle\*\* politely declined.

Perhaps she did. So what? As Shakespeare said, “One may smile and smile and be a villain.”

I’m not calling her actions villainous. I’m just noting that one may commit a rude behavior while otherwise being nice about it.

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**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1287 "2013-01-22T19:42:45Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> Are you a young unmarried French girl or woman? Or maybe a French teacher or governess?

Young - check.  
Unmarried - check.

Are you a Bob Ducca? Please submit your stats to giraffe, if so. We need to confirm it, and all. 🙂

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**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1288 "2013-01-22T19:43:49Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> I find it interesting that **mademoiselle** avoided answering this.

No, it was not 3D.

There you go, Bob. I am sure your life has been changed by that information. 🙂

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**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1289 "2013-01-22T19:45:00Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> _headdesk_

Right…

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1290 "2013-01-22T19:45:59Z")

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> [@l1I235](#):
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> Young - check.  
> Unmarried - check.
> 
> Are you a Bob Ducca? Please submit your stats to giraffe, if so. We need to confirm it, and all. 🙂

Well, since you asked. Here’s a [list of all my ailments.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHIegpSmIyw)

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1291 "2013-01-22T19:47:23Z")

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> [@l1I235](#):
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> Young - check.

29? Sure, we’ll let you call yourself “young” I guess.

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**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1292 "2013-01-22T19:51:15Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> 29? Sure, we’ll let you call yourself “young” I guess.

You’re right. While in the company of 15 year olds, 29 is downright ancient. 😛

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1293 "2013-01-22T19:52:19Z")

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If I go into a public restroom to take a dump, and a guy knocks on the stall door while I’m grunting and asks me to move so he can shit next to his friend, I’d refuse to move. Am I inconsiderate?

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1294 "2013-01-22T19:53:58Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> If I go into a public restroom to take a dump, and a guy knocks on the stall door while I’m grunting and asks me to move so he can shit next to his friend, I’d refuse to move. Am I inconsiderate?

Finally, an analogy that perfectly encapsulates the issue in the OP. Well done, sir.

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1295 "2013-01-22T19:55:09Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> If I go into a public restroom to take a dump, and a guy knocks on the stall door while I’m grunting and asks me to move so he can shit next to his friend, I’d refuse to move. Am I inconsiderate?

Have you already begun your shit, or are you still waiting for it to get started?

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1296 "2013-01-22T19:56:50Z")

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> [@Asimovian](#):
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> Have you already begun your shit, or are you still waiting for it to get started?

Also, what are the previews in this analogy?

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1297 "2013-01-22T19:57:49Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> Also, what are the previews in this analogy?

I’ve done my part; someone else is going to have fill in that particular blank.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1298 "2013-01-22T19:58:44Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> If I go into a public restroom to take a dump, and a guy knocks on the stall door while I’m grunting and asks me to move so he can shit next to his friend, I’d refuse to move. Am I inconsiderate?

According to Miss Manners, “Unless you honestly are going to blow out your o-ring, grunting, yelling or other demonstrations while taking a shit in a public restroom is very poor form.”

So, yes.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1299 "2013-01-22T19:58:49Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> If I go into a public restroom to take a dump, and a guy knocks on the stall door while I’m grunting and asks me to move so he can shit next to his friend, I’d refuse to move. Am I inconsiderate?

> [@Giraffe](#):
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> Finally, an analogy that perfectly encapsulates the issue in the OP. Well done, sir.

> [@Asimovian](#):
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> Have you already begun your shit, or are you still waiting for it to get started?

> [@Giraffe](#):
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> Also, what are the previews in this analogy?

Also, are you a French Governess?

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**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1300 "2013-01-22T19:59:36Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> If I go into a public restroom to take a dump, and a guy knocks on the stall door while I’m grunting and asks me to move so he can shit next to his friend, I’d refuse to move. Am I inconsiderate?

Whats wrong with you? It’s a societal expectation you would hurry up! Get out of there, and Lysol the bathroom for him too, you unsocialized dickhead asshole dog cunt!

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