# I'm not giving up my seat

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 16, 2013, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431 "2013-01-16T22:34:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2013, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1481 "2013-01-27T03:51:03Z")

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> [@kidchameleon](#):
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> Well, the OP is an asshole too…

OK, I’ll play.

The OP is not an asshole.

Now what?

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**Author:** ![Makeitstop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bb73d2/32.png) [@Makeitstop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Makeitstop)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2013, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1482 "2013-01-27T05:15:03Z")

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> [@saje](#):
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> And this is why I don’t enjoy going to the movies anymore. If I’d been anywhere in that theater I’d be royally PO’d at the lot of you.

Amen.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2013, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1483 "2013-01-27T08:08:56Z")

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> [@Anonymous User](#):
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> [DEL]I Pit mademoiselle[/DEL]
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> Oh wait, never mind. If you read the first couple of pages of the thread, she says that if she had moved the other way … she would have had worse seats.

I’ve not studied the exact seating arrangement (did I miss the link to the Youtube synopsis?) but Mlle _could have kept her original seat_ had her friend condescended to switch to Mlle’s opposite side. Does anyone really think Mlle’s refusal to move was anything other than a “Matter of Principle”?

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1484 "2013-01-28T03:19:30Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> I’ve not studied the exact seating arrangement (did I miss the link to the Youtube synopsis?) but Mlle _could have kept her original seat_ had her friend condescended to switch to Mlle’s opposite side. Does anyone really think Mlle’s refusal to move was anything other than a “Matter of Principle”?

And? That still doesn’t make it rude. Those people can go quietly ask someone else whose principles differ. Their follow-up actions were unacceptable.

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1485 "2013-01-28T03:25:12Z")

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> [@gigi](#):
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> And? That still doesn’t make it rude. Those people can go quietly ask someone else whose principles differ. Their follow-up actions were unacceptable.

Rudeness doesn’t excuse rudeness.

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**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1486 "2013-01-28T03:34:08Z")

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> [@kidchameleon](#):
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> Rudeness doesn’t excuse rudeness.

I would have never had the chance to “be rude” if they had not just interrupted my in-progress movie to say they wanted me to basically give up my seat.

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**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1487 "2013-01-28T03:35:23Z")

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> [@l1I235](#):
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> I would have never had the chance to “be rude” if they had not just interrupted my in-progress movie to say they wanted me to basically give up my seat.

Phew. I thought this thread was dead. Looks like it is coming back to life.

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1488 "2013-01-28T03:35:58Z")

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> [@Anonymous User](#):
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> Phew. I thought this thread was dead. Looks like it is coming back to life.

Then next time move over or rent out the entire theater, bitch.

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**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1489 "2013-01-28T03:39:39Z")

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> [@kidchameleon](#):
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> Then next time move over or rent out the entire theater, bitch.

That is what I would have done.

By the way mademoiselle, I was puzzled when I saw that you came back after 10 years of not posting just to talk about movie seats. Um… I am just curious to know, why did you stop posting for 10 years, and come back with a thread about movie seats?

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**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1490 "2013-01-28T03:41:18Z")

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> [@kidchameleon](#):
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> Then next time move over or rent out the entire theater, bitch.

Get a life asshole.

And stop calling AU a bitch.

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**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1491 "2013-01-28T04:01:14Z")

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> [@Anonymous User](#):
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> That is what I would have done.
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> By the way mademoiselle, I was puzzled when I saw that you came back after 10 years of not posting just to talk about movie seats. Um… I am just curious to know, why did you stop posting for 10 years, and come back with a thread about movie seats?

10 years ago (when you were, uh 5…), the SDMB was not the shit show of bullies/trolls/shit stirrers you see currently (with a few quality posters still here now). It was a message board I liked, in which I thought I could find opinions. Yes, even dissenting ones.

The thread really riled people up into childish name calling, angry rants, and nonsensical rage. You introducing it to the Pit made it even worse.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1492 "2013-01-28T04:11:19Z")

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But what about Next Time? Are you going to move over? Or are you going to stand your ground?

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1493 "2013-01-28T04:12:16Z")

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> [@Anonymous User](#):
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> Phew. I thought this thread was dead. Looks like it is coming back to life.

Well 300 posts is tantalizingly close.

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1494 "2013-01-28T04:14:14Z")

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Oh, now. Without OP participation this thread would have died a contented death a good 15 pages ago. You are lapping up all of this attention, **mademoiselle**. Did you get a little thrill when you saw how big your name appeared in that word cloud thing? It was _realllllly_ prominent. I’m not trying to give you any suggestions here, but it would probably look very nice as a computer desktop background. Just saying.

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**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1495 "2013-01-28T04:20:47Z")

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> [@MsWhatsit](#):
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> Oh, now. Without OP participation this thread would have died a contented death a good 15 pages ago. You are lapping up all of this attention, **mademoiselle**. Did you get a little thrill when you saw how big your name appeared in that word cloud thing? It was _realllllly_ prominent. I’m not trying to give you any suggestions here, but it would probably look very nice as a computer desktop background. Just saying.

Gotta love people who don’t pay attention.

I ignored this thread for several days. Others kept bumping it. Including you, just now.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1496 "2013-01-28T04:28:18Z")

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Step by step.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1497 "2013-01-28T04:33:21Z")

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First, I hope Mlle doesn’t take any of this too personally. Many people (including myself) have been far more rude on many occasions.

> [@l1I235](#):
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> I would have never had the chance to “be rude” if they had not just interrupted my in-progress movie to say they wanted me to basically give up my seat.

Let me synopsize the thread in little words.

(1) Latecomers wanting good seats – RUDE  
(2) Mlle refusing to move – RUDE  
(3) Latecomers loud and/or profane – VERY RUDE

Opinions differ whether (1) or (2) was MORE Rude,  
… But it doesn’t matter:  
Two wrongs don’t make a right  
(I think I was taught that in 2nd Grade; where did you go to primary school, Mlle?)

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**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1498 "2013-01-28T04:43:12Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> First, I hope Mlle doesn’t take any of this too personally. Many people (including myself) have been far more rude on many occasions.  
> Let me synopsize the thread in little words.
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> (1) Latecomers wanting good seats – RUDE  
> (2) Mlle refusing to move – RUDE  
> (3) Latecomers loud and/or profane – VERY RUDE
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> Opinions differ whether (1) or (2) was MORE Rude,  
> … But it doesn’t matter:  
> Two wrongs don’t make a right  
> (I think I was taught that in 2nd Grade; where did you go to primary school, Mlle?)

Can we agree that if number one had not happened, number 2 could not have happened in response?

So I would not have been wrong, if by your logic, I was not wronged in the first place by the other party.

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**Author:** ![l1I235](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@l1I235](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/l1I235)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1499 "2013-01-28T04:44:51Z")

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And I did not take it personally. Thank you for being better than most of the dissenting posters in this thread, for attempting to have a rational discussion.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-giving-up-my-seat/647431/1500 "2013-01-28T05:24:52Z")

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> [@l1I235](#):
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> And I did not take it personally. Thank you for being better than most of the dissenting posters in this thread, for attempting to have a rational discussion.

I regard the incident as so minor, that I’m rather astounded by the length of the thread!

If I posted about some of my own hot-tempered rude behavior I’d be flamed into cinders. On the other hand, there were one or two incidents that went almost magically well because I kept a smile.

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