# I'm not going to let old people get away with their horse shit anymore.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 31, 2013, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904 "2013-01-31T11:27:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2013, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/221 "2013-02-02T17:56:47Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> You found a petrified mass of butterscotch, or worse, this [stuff](http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/470767/470767,1288956840,1/stock-photo-colorful-hard-candy-background-64433437.jpg)here.

[before the click] stripey candy, right? The wavy stuff?

Oh, so close! My grandma had [this stuff](http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/334180/334180,1258562367,2/stock-photo-a-colorful-full-frame-holiday-candy-background-vivid-colors-with-ribbon-candy-peppermint-and-an-41160103.jpg). Or sometimes, [this stuff](http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRRmi0cWRAbm5mrF0OYS_EESujPSmZGytm0-cpbEvW0oCsw4VARDg), and you never quite knew if the center was going to be fizzy.

I think I was 20 before I figured out hard candy isn’t supposed to taste dusty. :-p

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**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2013, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/222 "2013-02-02T17:56:59Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> As a six year old, visiting auntie Amantha with my dad, I had to swallow my rage at this mockery of candy. That rage bubbles up to this day if I see a hard peppermint.

God_damn_, I love how you phrase things.

But for real. Butterscotch? I would have loved a butterscotch, not that striped shit my esteemed colleague here linked to.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2013, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/223 "2013-02-02T20:27:25Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> Until you actually tried to take some candy. You found a petrified mass of butterscotch, or worse, this [stuff](http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/470767/470767,1288956840,1/stock-photo-colorful-hard-candy-background-64433437.jpg)here. As a six year old, visiting auntie Amantha with my dad, I had to swallow my rage at this mockery of candy.

Ugh. Ribbon-candy. What was it with grandmothers and ribbon-candy? That and fucking [butter mints](http://trialx.com/g/Butter_Mints-1.jpg). It was like their taste in sweets petrified back in 1939 when those were at least superior to the popular sugar-frosted sulfur chunks of the day. I’d have taken a hard, stripey peppermint over those abominations any day.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2013, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/224 "2013-02-02T21:08:40Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Well, aren’t you a dear? Here, take a butterscotch candy from the ceramic chicken.

[quote=“Nzinga\_Seated, post:220, topic:648904”]

… You found a petrified mass of butterscotch, or worse, this [stuff](http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/470767/470767,1288956840,1/stock-photo-colorful-hard-candy-background-64433437.jpg)here.

> [@WhyNot](#):
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> … The wavy stuff?.. My grandma had [this stuff](http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/334180/334180,1258562367,2/stock-photo-a-colorful-full-frame-holiday-candy-background-vivid-colors-with-ribbon-candy-peppermint-and-an-41160103.jpg). Or sometimes, [this stuff](http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRRmi0cWRAbm5mrF0OYS_EESujPSmZGytm0-cpbEvW0oCsw4VARDg), and you never quite knew if the center was going to be fizzy.
> 
> I think I was 20 before I figured out hard candy isn’t supposed to taste dusty. :-p

You guy’s are killing me! And, like Mean Old Lady, you’re right on the money!

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2013, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/225 "2013-02-02T21:10:51Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> They slow down the line something awful.
> 
> Takes literally over a minute to do what I do in less than 5 seconds, or if change from the deli clerk is involved 20 - 30 seconds.

What is this, 1980? You know they don’t have to put credit cards in the clickety-clack machine anymore, right? These days, most credit card transactions are faster than making change. They sure as shit don’t take a minute.

> [@](#):
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> I’m self-aware enough to know when I would hold up a line counting cents. (The USA does not have pennies, we have cents.)

Oh, I see the problem. You’re insane.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2013, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/226 "2013-02-02T21:17:13Z")

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That isn’t a “problem”. That is an adaptation to reality.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2013, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/227 "2013-02-02T21:21:08Z")

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Heeeee!!! The penny/cent thing is killing me!!!

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2013, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/228 "2013-02-02T21:35:39Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> Heeeee!!! The penny/cent thing is killing me!!!

Before you give up the ghost, could you explain it to me? I think I’m missing something.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2013, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/229 "2013-02-02T21:38:13Z")

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So wait, [is a penny a one cent coin or isn’t it](http://www.answers.com/topic/penny)? Re: butterscotch, good Lord. Pa didn’t go in for candy or sugared cereal, but when he made an exception, there was a jar or butterscotch “candies” in the dining room. Butterscotch isn’t candy, people! Candy is supposed to be sweet and good!

> [@MacCat](#):
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> I think the part of the thread title **old people** is unfair. Why not **old A’holes** (or similar)? There would be much more agreement, and much less offense taken. We can agree that some, few, even most of any group may be creeps, but certainly not all, and that’s what the title implies. Ageism should be no more acceptable than racism.

Well yeah. I think most people, old or otherwise, are pretty nice, but when someone without grey hair is acting like a giant jerk, I don’t just smile and nod and wait for it to be over, and I sure as hell don’t give them a dollar when they’re holding up the freaking line. If some young guy was being as completely obnoxious as the guy at the bus stop, there’s no way I’d have allowed that to continue.

So just yesterday some old woman shoved someone to get on the train. Come on, Agnes! Like you had to do that in order to board. The train wasn’t going to take off without you, and there were a jillion seats! I’m sure in her mind the little kid should have let her on first (which he should have; I backed up for her), but you don’t have to shove anyone! Some dude shoved me once and I called him on it. It was rush hour, sure, where if you’ll often have to wait a couple of trains to get on, so I can see his rush, but shoving me? Really, dickface? So I says to him with great irritation in my voice, “Uh, can you _not_ shove me?” He said he was sorry, but he wasn’t. Ass.

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**Author:** ![anya\_marie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anya\_marie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anya_marie)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2013, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/230 "2013-02-02T21:43:04Z")

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What about those godawful pastel chalk-flavoured candy hearts with the cutesy sayings that taste like death ? That shit isn’t good for ANYTHING. Why in the sweet name of fuck are these still being MADE?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2013, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/231 "2013-02-02T21:59:49Z")

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> [@anya\_marie](#):
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> What about those godawful pastel chalk-flavoured candy hearts with the cutesy sayings that taste like death ? That shit isn’t good for ANYTHING. Why in the sweet name of fuck are these still being MADE?

You mean the ones that say things like

**CUTIE  
PIE**

and

**BE  
MINE**

and

**YOU’LL  
DO**

and  
\*\*  
STALK U  
4EVER\*\*

and so forth?

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2013, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/232 "2013-02-02T22:02:39Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Before you give up the ghost, could you explain it to me? I think I’m missing something.

I think my explanation is the best one.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2013, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/233 "2013-02-02T22:18:29Z")

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> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#):
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> \<snip\>  
> Oh, I see the problem. You’re insane.

You’ve reminded me of one of my favourite quotes from [“Corner Gas”](http://www.ctv.ca/CornerGas.aspx) - “I see. And have you _tried_ making sense?”

> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> You mean the ones that say things like
> 
> **CUTIE  
> PIE**
> 
> and
> 
> **BE  
> MINE**
> 
> and
> 
> **YOU’LL  
> DO**
> 
> and  
> \*\*  
> STALK U  
> 4EVER\*\*
> 
> and so forth?

I don’t think I want any candy from your jar.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2013, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/234 "2013-02-02T23:20:50Z")

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OOh, I love all of those candies. (Well, wait, I’ve never had ribbon candy. Where do I go to get some?)

But, yeah, when they congeal into one big solid mass, that’s awkward.

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**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2013, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/235 "2013-02-02T23:44:08Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> OOh, I love all of those candies. (Well, wait, I’ve never had ribbon candy. Where do I go to get some?)

Here’s one source…

[Hammond Candies](http://www.hammondscandies.com/candy-types/ribbon-candy)

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2013, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/236 "2013-02-03T00:08:44Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> My mom can’t smack me anymore because I’m bigger than she is. Plus I don’t give her reason to because I’m scared of her.

Hell, mine’s been dead for over 20 years and still scares me. ::automatic duck::

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**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2013, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/237 "2013-02-03T00:16:20Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> You’ve reminded me of one of my favourite quotes from [“Corner Gas”](http://www.ctv.ca/CornerGas.aspx) - “I see. And have you _tried_ making sense?”

Excellent.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2013, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/238 "2013-02-03T00:28:10Z")

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> [@Pacific420](#):
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> I used to play cards with my Grandma and we’d have to pay a penny for each card we got stuck with…my Grandma would dig around in her change purse and, with a smile, pay me with the greenest dirtiest pennies she could find 🙂
> 
> she was a classic

And then they wonder why we dance on their graves.

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**Author:** ![anya\_marie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anya\_marie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anya_marie)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2013, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/239 "2013-02-03T00:49:39Z")

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Yes, Vinyl Turnip. THOSE. They are godawful.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2013, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/240 "2013-02-03T02:25:58Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> But not self-aware enough to avoid slowing down a thread with a tangent (jes’ kiddin’, I love me dem tangents).
> 
> I’ve heard a number of bankers use the term “pennies”, including my dad, so whether or not it’s technically correct, “penny” is certainly common usage, even among the pros who would be the first to object.
> 
> If you want to really be an Olde Farte\*, go out and show 1000 people on the street a “cent”, and then tell the 999 who call it a penny that they’re wrong.
> 
> Go. I was serious. We’ll wait right here.
> 
> \*(is “a Bricker” a noun yet?)

Yes, I was being a pedant, but the term “penny” is a UK mint term, not a US mint term.

> **[Coin Community | Numismatic Glossary | P](https://www.coincommunity.com/dictionary/coins_p.asp)**
>
> Dictionary of numismatic terms from Coin Community starting with the letter P

> [@](#):
>
> **Penny**  
> In American numismatics, slang for the one-cent coin. The name derives from the British coin, formerly used in America before the adoption of decimal currency. The old British penny was worth 1/12th of a shilling, or 1/240th of a pound. It was originally a silver coin in mediaeval times, and was first struck in copper in 1797. Pennies were also struck in numerous British colonies, such as Australia, South Africa etc.. In 1970 the predecimal penny was replaced by a decimal one, worth 1/100th of a pound.

Clearly everyone knows a penny is a cent. And in the UK they know an American is speaking of football when he uses the term soccer.

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