# I'm not going to let old people get away with their horse shit anymore.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 31, 2013, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904 "2013-01-31T11:27:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/301 "2013-02-07T14:47:16Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> re escalators, I use both handrails.

Are you elderly or disabled?

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**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/302 "2013-02-08T01:16:35Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> re escalators, I use both handrails.

Why?

If I say “excuse me” do you briefly let go of one and let me pass?

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/303 "2013-02-08T01:46:03Z")

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> [@Askance](#):
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> Why?
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> If I say “excuse me” do you briefly let go of one and let me pass?

That would be assaulting him with words. Word assault. You filthy word assaulter.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/304 "2013-02-08T02:30:34Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Old man at the bus stop says hi to me. I’m usually irritated by people who talk to me at bus stops, but he was short and old, so I think it’s cute. I’m not sure what his height has to do with anything, but whatever. Anyway, well “cute” old man quickly turns creepy as he compares me to some celebrity who I look nothing like, while making gestures toward his chest and saying “But with a nicer figure.” Wait, WHAT? WTF? Why is saying that okay? Could a 25 year old guy say this without getting kicked in the balls? Then he starts telling me his theories about the world, tells me I’m pretty, asks if I’m single (!!!), and this shit just goes on and on. And then I realize the only reason I’m putting up with this mountain of crap is because this guy is about to die in three weeks. So I get on the bus, move promptly to the back, assuming he will sit in the old guy seats, but then he follows me and it won’t let up. Jesus Fuck, what is this crap? I end up exiting early and just walking the rest of the way home to get away from him.

I hope to god to be this person when I am old. I’m going to give an endless string of college girls embarrassing, vaguely scary tales to tell for the rest of their lives when I am 80.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/305 "2013-02-08T02:32:23Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> I hope to god to be this person when I am old. I’m going to give an endless string of college girls embarrassing, vaguely scary tales to tell for the rest of their lives when I am 80.

Why wait? 😃

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/306 "2013-02-08T03:19:51Z")

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I like a challenge, so I always walk the opposite direction on escalators.

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**Author:** ![rogerbox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/76d3ee/32.png) [@rogerbox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rogerbox)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/307 "2013-02-08T04:53:50Z")

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I don’t feel all that bad when creepy guys come onto college girls honestly. It was ruined for me when I was a young guy and some guy was being aggressive and creepy making two girls at the bus stop uncomfortable. I was a boxer at the time and told him off in a serious way that he was bothering them and to leave them alone. He said “Fuck you…” under his breath but walked off.

The girls did not so much as look my way, much less say thank you. I would probably do it again if in the same situation, but it really put a bad taste in my mouth. /off topic

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/308 "2013-02-08T16:19:33Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> I’m going to give an endless string of college girls embarrassing, vaguely scary tales to tell for the rest of their lives when I am 80.

I started doing that when I was a college _boy_. 😉

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/309 "2013-02-08T19:19:00Z")

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“Hi there! I’m the guy your Mom warned you to avoid! Want to go do some drugs?”

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**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/310 "2013-02-09T04:23:57Z")

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Sweet fucking Og! They built a new fucking Wal-mart in my neighborhood a few years ago and put a roundy round fucking traffic circle whatever you call it on the street where i live.

There is also a bridge club on one side of the street and a Furrs cafeteria on the other side. Old folks heaven. That is seriously fucked up and should be illegal.

Ever followed old people drivers through a fucking roundy round? I would rather set myself on fire. So I go a fucking mile out of my way every day to get to the main road.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/311 "2013-02-09T14:54:18Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> I started doing that when I was a college _boy_. 😉

Technically so did I. I left tons of women with stories to tell I am sure (too bad my social skills were never really good enough to do anything more than talk to them, but you go to war with the army you are given).

But the idea of an elderly man doing the same thing sounds fucking funny. And for the reason the OP says, because nobody wants to slap an old man. The shit I intend to get away with when I am so old it is socially unacceptable to yell at me or slap me will be legendary.

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/312 "2013-02-09T17:07:48Z")

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> [@rogerbox](#):
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> I don’t feel all that bad when creepy guys come onto college girls honestly. It was ruined for me when I was a young guy and some guy was being aggressive and creepy making two girls at the bus stop uncomfortable. I was a boxer at the time and told him off in a serious way that he was bothering them and to leave them alone. He said “Fuck you…” under his breath but walked off.
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> The girls did not so much as look my way, much less say thank you. I would probably do it again if in the same situation, but it really put a bad taste in my mouth. /off topic

Just a WAG but when a guy comes after you aggressively, it’s scary. Sometimes you close down in a defense mode, that could spill over into not wanting to engage with anyone, including someone like you who steps up to help, until they calmed down. Don’t read too much into it.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/313 "2013-02-09T19:14:32Z")

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> [@Una\_Persson](#):
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> Just a WAG but when a guy comes after you aggressively, it’s scary. Sometimes you close down in a defense mode, that could spill over into not wanting to engage with anyone, including someone like you who steps up to help, until they calmed down. Don’t read too much into it.

That would be my take on it, too - they were freaked out and scared, and just wanted to get the hell out of there.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/314 "2013-02-09T19:16:27Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> \<snip\> The shit I intend to get away with when I am so old it is socially unacceptable to yell at me or slap me will be legendary.

So, where are you planning to retire? I have a feeling I’m going to have to come visit you and hang out for a while. 😃

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/315 "2013-02-09T19:18:56Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> Technically so did I. I left tons of women with stories to tell I am sure (too bad my social skills were never really good enough to do anything more than talk to them, but you go to war with the army you are given).
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> But the idea of an elderly man doing the same thing sounds fucking funny. And for the reason the OP says, because nobody wants to slap an old man. The shit I intend to get away with when I am so old it is socially unacceptable to yell at me or slap me will be legendary.

And people wonder why feminists complain about rape culture.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/316 "2013-02-09T20:57:52Z")

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> [@Una\_Persson](#):
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> Just a WAG but when a guy comes after you aggressively, it’s scary. Sometimes you close down in a defense mode, that could spill over into not wanting to engage with anyone, including someone like you who steps up to help, until they calmed down. Don’t read too much into it.

This. Those girls were probably scared out of their wits, and once they had calmed down, they probably would have been much more sociable.

> [@Trepa\_Mayfield](#):
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> And people wonder why feminists complain about rape culture.

Yeah, I know that _I_ always think it’s fucking funny to scare people out of their wits, and I look forward to the day when I can make people think that I’m going to terrorize them without facing any social consequences myself.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/317 "2013-02-09T21:12:01Z")

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> [@Yllaria](#):
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> Sadly, as we age our night vision fades even without cataracts. I found that out in a street construction zone signage class. Apparently it happens so gradually that most of us don’t realize it’s happening.

True enough. I just found out that I have cataracts developing. For now, a change in prescriptions takes care of things, but eventually I’ll need surgery to replace the lenses. It’s a common enough problem and there are about one million of these surgeries done every year. Even so, I avoid driving any distance at night, especially when it’s raining. The streetlights here put out about 10 lumens, and they don’t maintain the lane markings, so most people are driving by touch and smell. On top of that, all the goddamn hipsters here wear black or other dark-colored clothing and expect you to be able to see them at night. It’s a challenge even for a driver with perfect vision.

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**Author:** ![rogerbox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/76d3ee/32.png) [@rogerbox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rogerbox)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/318 "2013-02-09T21:57:56Z")

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> [@Una\_Persson](#):
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> Just a WAG but when a guy comes after you aggressively, it’s scary. Sometimes you close down in a defense mode, that could spill over into not wanting to engage with anyone, including someone like you who steps up to help, until they calmed down. Don’t read too much into it.

I risked my personal safety for two random strangers, and I didn’t get a thank you or eye contact, “entitled” doesn’t begin to describe how they came off to me. They went back to their vapid girl-talk and texting on their phones. :rolleyes: I was certainly scared of getting shot by telling a random scumbag stranger off, but I spoke up.

I could insert some comment about why chivalry is dead right now, but “meh”. 😛

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**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/319 "2013-02-09T22:17:50Z")

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I was just now in line behind a tiny old lady who took a very long time to find her credit card, and wouldn’t swipe it herself. I kept a pleasantly neutral demeanor because she was, after all, paying with a credit card and not pennies.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2013, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-going-to-let-old-people-get-away-with-their-horse-shit-anymore/648904/320 "2013-02-09T22:24:19Z")

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> [@rogerbox](#):
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> I risked my personal safety for two random strangers, and I didn’t get a thank you or eye contact, “entitled” doesn’t begin to describe how they came off to me. They went back to their vapid girl-talk and texting on their phones. :rolleyes:

They were entitled. Etiquette dictates that they drop everything and immediately provide a twofer blowjob.

I saw it in a movie once.

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