# I'm not impressed with the SDMB cheaters that inhabit the PIT....

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 19, 2005, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-impressed-with-the-sdmb-cheaters-that-inhabit-the-pit/326936 "2005-10-19T16:56:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-impressed-with-the-sdmb-cheaters-that-inhabit-the-pit/326936/21 "2005-10-19T19:04:07Z")

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Since the network where I work is my responsibility, I gave myself permission to post whenever I have time in between other stuff that I need to do.

My boss doesn’t care what we do with the bandwidth, as long as his email is uninterrupted.

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**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-impressed-with-the-sdmb-cheaters-that-inhabit-the-pit/326936/22 "2005-10-19T19:04:10Z")

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What the fuck business is it of yours anyway?

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**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-impressed-with-the-sdmb-cheaters-that-inhabit-the-pit/326936/23 "2005-10-19T19:05:49Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> I have no access to SDMB at work–a screen comes up that says “your administrator has blocked access to this site. If you feel you need access, please see your administrator.”
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> I feel I DO need access, but lack the nerve to go demand same. 🙂

I got that message once.

I wrote the administrator, “eh, it’s just a message board I like to check and it’s not actually about dope.”

To the OP: I only post from work. On company time. Have lectured others here about cheating and stealing.

Can this be considered stealing? Yes, you could make a case for that. But it’s no more stealing than taking 15 extra minutes on lunch, chatting about the ball game with the guy in the next office, burning a CD, or even giving it a couple more shakes in the bathroom just for fun.

But, to say that it is stealing sort of misses the picture. It’s quite different to be a computer guy than to be a bricklayer whose progress can be measured each day by the height of his wall. You might be working on a project that requires your colleague to finish a task before you can start your next task.

In a perfect world for the company, I would materialize and get paid for the exact amount of time that I work on a project, and disappear and not get paid when work was slow.

In reality, work forces aren’t that flexible. The company needs people here for the times that we require full capacity.

But, when the clients are on vacation, or using a piece of software I just delivered, or whatever. . .the company doesn’t require that I stare at a blank wall or continually advance my education by reading technical manuals.

When I have things that have to be completed in a specific time frame, I sure as shit ain’t surfing the web. And if it is a problem, then that’s going to be reflected in my annual review (because it has been with other people).

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-impressed-with-the-sdmb-cheaters-that-inhabit-the-pit/326936/24 "2005-10-19T19:09:45Z")

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Another one self-employed. I get online frequently to check spellings for what I’m proofreading (company names, technical terms, etc.) and usually I’ll sneak a peek at the Dope when I’ve found what I’m looking for.

No thief here, sorry.

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**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-impressed-with-the-sdmb-cheaters-that-inhabit-the-pit/326936/25 "2005-10-19T19:21:11Z")

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> [@GusNSpot](#):
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> Who only comes here on the bosses dime without permission?
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> Only from home?
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> Only from work because you have dial-up at home and won’t come here on dial-up?
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> Come on you cowards and cheats, you get all nasty and prance on your pedestals, but have you the stones to fess up about who and what you really are?
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> I bet there is not one with the stones to admit that they are 100% cheaters at the SDMB… There will be at least one slimy excuse or rationalization for everyone who responds or they will come only to slam the OP without giving an answer.

Shame? Rationalization? I know not of these words. 😛

I seem to recall mentioning that I access this at work, almost all the time I am suppost to be working. _thinks_ Yes, I stated just that, a few months back, in reply to a question.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-impressed-with-the-sdmb-cheaters-that-inhabit-the-pit/326936/26 "2005-10-19T19:36:22Z")

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So,

Are you impressed with Unaboard or Fathom or a.f.c-a cheaters that inhabit the Pit?

Are you impressed with SDMB cheaters that inhabit MPSIMS?

Are you impressed by SDMB non-cheaters that inhabit the Pit?

Are you impressed by SDMB non-cheaters that inhabit the Cafe Society (as if they’d let _you_ in)?  
Just who the hell are you impressed by, anyway?

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-impressed-with-the-sdmb-cheaters-that-inhabit-the-pit/326936/27 "2005-10-19T19:38:08Z")

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> [@Scott Plaid](#):
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> Shame? Rationalization? I know not of these words. 😛

I dunno. I think you have a working acquaintance with rationalization. You probably got the first part right. 😛

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**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-impressed-with-the-sdmb-cheaters-that-inhabit-the-pit/326936/28 "2005-10-19T19:44:21Z")

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Wow, I’m never in the Pit at work. The content here is not suitable for my employer’s delicate system. I wouldn’t be in this thread now, but for a case of the striped throat.\*  
I’ll post in every other forum, of course, if I’m on break. I get to set my own break times, of course, with the proviso that I get my work done and put in at least 40 hours.  
\*Please note: I am still contagious. Do not get too close to this post.

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-impressed-with-the-sdmb-cheaters-that-inhabit-the-pit/326936/29 "2005-10-19T19:45:36Z")

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I work for a Fortune 50 company and could be terminated for cruising the internet. Now I do steal a glance at [Amazon.com](http://Amazon.com) and e-bay every now and then, but I never go to this site because you know that the corporate spies would catch me just as I clicked on the “You Mother Fucker Goat Felchers” thread.

No way. I like my job. Or at least the money that comes along with it. And the profit sharing. Gotta love profit sharing.

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**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-impressed-with-the-sdmb-cheaters-that-inhabit-the-pit/326936/30 "2005-10-19T19:54:04Z")

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I’m retired, and I’m not impressed that you are unimpressed.

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**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-impressed-with-the-sdmb-cheaters-that-inhabit-the-pit/326936/31 "2005-10-19T19:55:23Z")

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I post from home and in class (wireless!). I posted a lot last year from work, and if I had a job this semester, I’d do it again, with no moral qualms whatsoever.

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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-impressed-with-the-sdmb-cheaters-that-inhabit-the-pit/326936/32 "2005-10-19T19:59:37Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> Are you impressed with SDMB cheaters that inhabit MPSIMS?

Ain’t none there. We tell 'em to head straight back to Great Debates.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-impressed-with-the-sdmb-cheaters-that-inhabit-the-pit/326936/33 "2005-10-19T20:16:45Z")

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Let’s see; I believe I am guilty on all counts. I have posted from work when I was supposed to be working, and I probably have lectured other people on stealing. You make a good point, **Gus**. I’m just not sure what you plan on doing with it.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-impressed-with-the-sdmb-cheaters-that-inhabit-the-pit/326936/34 "2005-10-19T20:17:29Z")

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> [@SkipMagic](#):
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> Ain’t none there. We tell 'em to head straight back to Great Debates.

Oh, right. First you guys fling threads from forum to forum with wild abandon. Now you’re hurling Dopers themselves hither and yon. What jackbooted thuggery is next?

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-impressed-with-the-sdmb-cheaters-that-inhabit-the-pit/326936/35 "2005-10-19T20:28:20Z")

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My boss and I have an understanding. I get my job done quickly and efficiently and she doesn’t look over my shoulder while I’m doing it.

Besides, she lives in a different state.

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**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-impressed-with-the-sdmb-cheaters-that-inhabit-the-pit/326936/36 "2005-10-19T20:43:30Z")

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My company doesn’t care. Really. They provide open internet access, they know that people are using it for personal reasons at times, and as long as we get our work done they really don’t care. Sure, there’s a policy somewhere about what we do online – I believe that downloading porn is prohibited (the commie bastards) – but I surf/post to the SDMB whenever the mood strikes me, be it from work or home.

Why yes, this _is_ a pretty cool place to work – in fact, we’re about to be named a “Great Place to Work” by \*[Washingtonian\* magazine](http://www.washingtonian.com/thismonth/newissue.html) for the third time. 🙂

> [@Weirddave](#):
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> I’ve even given myself permission to post at will.

Poor Will… ☹

> [@tomndebb](#):
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> I dunno. I think you have a working acquaintance with rationalization. You probably got the first part right. 😛

Heh.

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**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-impressed-with-the-sdmb-cheaters-that-inhabit-the-pit/326936/37 "2005-10-19T20:44:59Z")

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> [@Homebrew](#):
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> I get paid a salary to do a job, regardless of the number of hours involved in doing that job. My job gets done. Some days I have more time to post than others. But my job gets done and that’s all my employer cares about.

I get to hear this one a lot. And it makes sense to a certain extent. If I pay you to make 19.6 widgets a day, then all I should care about is getting 19.6 widgets. If, however, I pay you to do a job that has a less objective measure, and to do that job to the very best of your ability, it would be reasonable to question whether devoting time to a message board is consistent with my expectations.

As for me personally… Meh. I might spend a couple hours a month at the SDMB, and generally do it when some wanker is boring me to death during a phone call. This is also acceptable use at my company so long as I don’t tell the wanker that he/she is boring.

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**Author:** ![The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5ac83/32.png) [@The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mad_Hermit)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-impressed-with-the-sdmb-cheaters-that-inhabit-the-pit/326936/38 "2005-10-19T20:47:34Z")

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I haven’t had a boss since I signed up.

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-impressed-with-the-sdmb-cheaters-that-inhabit-the-pit/326936/39 "2005-10-19T21:18:16Z")

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Haw! I can top all y’alls. For a time I used to perform all my moderator duties exclusively from the office - many of them during business hours.

But then I’m in a salaried position and often work many “unpaid” hours. There’s nothing on my desk that’s behind schedule currently because I’m not spending enough time on it. Nor has there been for several years.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-impressed-with-the-sdmb-cheaters-that-inhabit-the-pit/326936/40 "2005-10-19T23:09:28Z")

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> [@GusNSpot](#):
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> Only applies to those that post in the pit. ) :: just cause I want it to be that particular question you scum balls, :::

Huh? Why is it worse to sneak into the Pit on your boss’s dime than to sneak into GD or GQ? Less “redeeming social importance” or something?

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