# I'm not likely to kill anybody else, so I'm back in Gen Pop **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 27, 2020, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-likely-to-kill-anybody-else-so-im-back-in-gen-pop/854521 "2020-05-27T02:04:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-likely-to-kill-anybody-else-so-im-back-in-gen-pop/854521/21 "2020-05-27T11:22:45Z")
Welcome back, **dropzone**! ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-likely-to-kill-anybody-else-so-im-back-in-gen-pop/854521/22 "2020-05-27T12:32:30Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I don’t know about Australia but here in America, one does not shiv. One shanks. Do Aussies keep their valuables in their prison wallet or is that just a US accessory? ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-likely-to-kill-anybody-else-so-im-back-in-gen-pop/854521/23 "2020-05-27T13:13:13Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Glad you didn’t die! Welcome back and if you’re up to telling us first-hand what it was like having it, I’d be interested in hearing about your experience. > [@LH75](#): > > I am glad you are ok good news! yes, share experiences as you feel able and, most importantly, how are you feeling now? ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-likely-to-kill-anybody-else-so-im-back-in-gen-pop/854521/24 "2020-05-27T14:31:17Z")
Good to hear. And thanks for the update! ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-likely-to-kill-anybody-else-so-im-back-in-gen-pop/854521/25 "2020-05-27T14:46:02Z")
I think the shiv is the implement, to shank is the verb. “I shanked him with a shiv.” Welcome back, **dropzone**! StG ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-likely-to-kill-anybody-else-so-im-back-in-gen-pop/854521/26 "2020-05-27T16:25:02Z")
I am moderately happy you haven’t died… 🆒;)😃 Be well. And have a shank of beef for dinner to celebrate… ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-likely-to-kill-anybody-else-so-im-back-in-gen-pop/854521/27 "2020-05-27T16:45:22Z")
I think we’re expecting too much linguistic provision from a certain sub-set of the population. 😉 I’ve heard “shiv” used as a verb, just like “knife” can be a verb: “He shivved the guy”. And I’ve heard “shank” used as a noun. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-likely-to-kill-anybody-else-so-im-back-in-gen-pop/854521/28 "2020-05-27T21:01:21Z")
Welcome back, **dropzone**! Glad you’re better. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-likely-to-kill-anybody-else-so-im-back-in-gen-pop/854521/29 "2020-05-27T21:03:32Z")
> [@nelliebly](#): > > “Gen pop” sounds like the name of an international boy band, but I’m so glad you’re back in the land of the living! I was thinking “Gen Pop? Which generation is that? I can’t keep track. And it’s not like other generations didn’t have their own Pop music.” ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-likely-to-kill-anybody-else-so-im-back-in-gen-pop/854521/30 "2020-05-27T21:17:00Z")
> [@StGermain](#): > > I think the shiv is the implement, to shank is the verb. “I shanked him with a shiv.” > [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > I’ve heard “shiv” used as a verb, just like “knife” can be a verb: “He shivved the guy”. > > And I’ve heard “shank” used as a noun. In my experience, shank and shiv could be used as both nouns and verbs. There is also no significant difference in usage in referring to a handmade weapon versus a commercially manufactured one (which is a distinction I’ve seen claimed online). In terms of usage, the two words are interchangeable. The only significant difference I saw was that shank was commonly used and shiv was not. Shiv was something you heard in an old prison movie. Calling a weapon a shiv would be the equivalent of calling the police the fuzz. If a prisoner used the word shiv, it would reveal him as somebody who was faking his knowledge of actual prison life. That said, my direct familiarity with prison lingo is based on New York state. Perhaps there are other areas where shiv is still a commonly used term and prisoners can shiv each other to their heart’s content without worrying about losing the respect of their peers. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2020, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-likely-to-kill-anybody-else-so-im-back-in-gen-pop/854521/31 "2020-05-27T22:58:10Z")
_claps_ Finally some good news in this whole big wreck! Welcome back!! ---
**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-likely-to-kill-anybody-else-so-im-back-in-gen-pop/854521/32 "2020-05-28T00:34:05Z")
Woohoo! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-likely-to-kill-anybody-else-so-im-back-in-gen-pop/854521/33 "2020-05-28T00:56:33Z")
My Covid-19 experience - or - I told you I was sick In late January I had a not-breathing episode triggered by choking on my breakfast. Off to the hospital I went because Covid-19 still hadn’t made a name for itself on these shores. While there I had a “very high” fever (the highest I heard was 100.4F.). The coughing, which wasn’t all that different from my norm, required far deeper reaching than normal, and what it brought up was a teaspoon of phlegm about half as gooey and sticky as a fresh gummi bear. I did a dozen of them a day, spitting them out but making a mess because they were so sticky. My fever, what there was of it, broke and I was sent back here. A daughter, who works at an upscale public high school, had the same, and she concluded that she had caught Covid-19 from one of her students. It made sense to me, and that’s why I decided I had it. And as our director of nursing was one of our two fatalities and I had met with her after my hospital visit I chose to include her death in the Legend of dropzone. They finally began testing everybody. First they gave me a swab test, but that took too long to get back, so I failed the blood test. They sent me to the hospital where I got more tests. It was needless because my swab test results were delivered while I was in the ambulance. I came back here and got dumped in the Covid ward for a week or so. I got out yesterday and the cough ended today. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-likely-to-kill-anybody-else-so-im-back-in-gen-pop/854521/34 "2020-05-28T02:32:19Z")
Having been diverted by a conversation about stabbing people in prison, I want to get back on topic by welcoming you back and saying I’m glad to hear you are feeling better. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-likely-to-kill-anybody-else-so-im-back-in-gen-pop/854521/35 "2020-05-28T02:56:38Z")
Stabbing people is far more interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-likely-to-kill-anybody-else-so-im-back-in-gen-pop/854521/36 "2020-05-28T06:53:33Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Stabbing people is far more interesting. That’s why all the cool doctors want to be surgeons. ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-likely-to-kill-anybody-else-so-im-back-in-gen-pop/854521/37 "2020-05-28T16:24:08Z")
Yay! Welcome back. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-likely-to-kill-anybody-else-so-im-back-in-gen-pop/854521/38 "2020-05-28T17:16:37Z")
I think I know a reason why so many polite old ladies are killed by this. The coughing you need to do to claw that thick mucus out of your lungs is long, hard work, and the noises you make so loud and obnoxious that I can imagine the daintier old dears being willing to die rather than cough like that. ---
**Author:** ![Hermitian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hermitian/32/470_2.png) [@Hermitian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermitian)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-likely-to-kill-anybody-else-so-im-back-in-gen-pop/854521/39 "2020-05-28T17:55:59Z")
interesting that you mention mucus. I thought one of the defining characteristics of COVID was a DRY cough. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2020, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-likely-to-kill-anybody-else-so-im-back-in-gen-pop/854521/40 "2020-05-28T18:28:51Z")
When your mucous is so thick that you get hemorrhaging in your eyeballs from coughing to bring it up, your “lesser” cough will probably be a nagging, dry cough that isn’t bringing anything up. That’s why doctors suggest expectorants-- medications that this your mucous, and essentially turn a dry cough into a wet cough. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-likely-to-kill-anybody-else-so-im-back-in-gen-pop/854521.md?page=1)