# I'm not real-I'm just drawn that way

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 2, 2013, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-real-im-just-drawn-that-way/662452 "2013-07-02T15:49:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-real-im-just-drawn-that-way/662452/21 "2013-07-02T21:16:56Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> [Daniel Tiger’s Neighborhood](http://theweek.com/article/index/232804/daniel-tigers-neighborhood-can-a-cartoon-animal-replace-mr-rogers#) is an animated spinoff of Mr. Rogers’s Neighborhood. Haven’t seen it, so no verdict yet.

Quite good. Up to Mr. Rogers standards.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-real-im-just-drawn-that-way/662452/22 "2013-07-02T21:24:04Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> I’ll nominate _Batman: The Animated Series_ as an excellent adaptation. Although it is one of many series based on the comic book, it successfully emulated the first two live action Batman films directed by Tim Burton, including the theme music by Danny Elfman

Well, on that note (ha), I’d like to cite _The New Adventures of Batman_, the Filmation series from 1977. In addition to reuniting Adam West and Burt Ward, the musical cues (though repetitive) were pretty effective at maintaining mood.  
Of course the show was effectively ruined by Bat-Mate, a proto Scrappy-Doo.

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**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-real-im-just-drawn-that-way/662452/23 "2013-07-02T21:54:08Z")

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I used to really like the Harlem Globetrotters cartoon, which featured real players like Meadowlark Lemon & Curly Neal.

[Link.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlem_Globetrotters_%28TV_series%29)

It was typical Hanna-Barbara 1970s dreck, but I liked it. What did I know? I was just the stupid-kid target market they were shooting at.

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**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-real-im-just-drawn-that-way/662452/24 "2013-07-02T23:44:50Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Of course the show was effectively ruined by Bat-Mate, a proto Scrappy-Doo.

[Bat-mite](http://batman.wikia.com/wiki/Bat-Mite)

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-real-im-just-drawn-that-way/662452/25 "2013-07-02T23:51:50Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> I always enjoyed “The Real Ghostbusters” series.
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> Fun fact about that cartoon… Bill Murray’s character, Peter Venkman, was voiced by [Lorenzo Music](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorenzo_Music) - the voice actor that also voiced Garfield in the old “Garfield & Friends” animated series.
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> Years later, Bill Murray would end up voicing Garfield in the live action adaptations.

Ironically, Maurice LaMarche, who did the voice of Egon, believes that Music was replaced as Venkman by Dave Coulier because of comments made by Murray about Venkman sounding like Garfield. Coulier seems to confirm this by saying the producers wanted an actor playing Venkman who sounded more like Murray.

> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Well, on that note (ha), I’d like to cite _The New Adventures of Batman_, the Filmation series from 1977. In addition to reuniting Adam West and Burt Ward, the musical cues (though repetitive) were pretty effective at maintaining mood.  
> Of course the show was effectively ruined by Bat-Mate, a proto Scrappy-Doo.

You mean [Bat-Mite](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat-Mite). He was an extra-dimensional being who plagued Batman and Robin in much the same manner that Mr. Myxzptlk constantly annoyed Superman. He wasn’t a Filmation creation, but rather was created by Bill Finger and appeared in Detective and World’s Finest Comics from 1959-1964.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-real-im-just-drawn-that-way/662452/26 "2013-07-03T03:33:27Z")

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Typo aside, oh, I know the character has an long-established comic history, (as do the original Batwoman and Bat-Girl and Ace the Bat-hound and Vicki Vale and any number of characters) but on that animated series he was adapted as a distracting nuisance. Of course, that’s how he was in the comics, too, but at least he wasn’t in every single issue.

As an incidental note, I recommend Bat-Mite’s one shot _World’s Funniest_, in which he and Mxyzptlk run rampant through the DC multiverse.

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**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-real-im-just-drawn-that-way/662452/27 "2013-07-03T09:09:52Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> I always enjoyed “The Real Ghostbusters” series.
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> Fun fact about that cartoon… Bill Murray’s character, Peter Venkman, was voiced by [Lorenzo Music](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorenzo_Music) - the voice actor that also voiced Garfield in the old “Garfield & Friends” animated series.
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> Years later, Bill Murray would end up voicing Garfield in the live action adaptations.

Even better: In one episode of the cartoon the Ghostbusters go to Hollywood to have a movie made about them. At the end, they go to the premier, and you see the opening scene of the actual movie and hear Lorenzo Music as Peter complain, “That guy doesn’t look a thing like me!” (All of the characters in the cartoon look completely different from the movie because Filmation didn’t want to pay the actors to use their likenesses.)

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-real-im-just-drawn-that-way/662452/28 "2013-07-03T09:22:25Z")

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Great: _Alf_. It was about Gordon Shumway on the planet Melmac.  
Horrible: _Police Academy_

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-real-im-just-drawn-that-way/662452/29 "2013-07-03T11:45:37Z")

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Just awful _The Three Robonic Sttooges._ The Three Stooges as robots. For some six million-dollar reason the producers couldn’t just call them “robotic”; they needed to create a portmanteau word from “robotic” and “bionic.”

Grrrrr.

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**Author:** ![furryman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/furryman/32/99_2.png) [@furryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furryman)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-real-im-just-drawn-that-way/662452/30 "2013-07-03T12:30:29Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Great: _The Lone Ranger_(1966). It had a _Wild, Wild West_ feel to it.  
> WTF??: _Little Rosey_-an animated Roseanne Barr as a child.

Little Rosey was much better than it sounds. Well written and funny. If you want to talk about WTF how about the second season of the Harlem Globetrotters where they gave them superpowers?  
Strangely all cartoons based on The Three Stooges were really bad.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-real-im-just-drawn-that-way/662452/31 "2013-07-03T12:43:39Z")

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Bad: \*Highlander \*  
Also Bad: _Tales from the Crypt_  
Even Worse: _Attack of the Killer Tomatoes_  
Haven’t Seen But It Couldn’t Be Good: _Ramb\*\*o and the Forces of Freedom_

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-real-im-just-drawn-that-way/662452/32 "2013-07-03T13:21:53Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Haven’t Seen But It Couldn’t Be Good: _Ramb\*\*o and the Forces of Freedom_

I have seen it and it was pretty bad. It had the G.I.Joe quality to it where the team of bad guys come up with some goofy plot and the team of good guys zoom in to stop them. Huge gunfights occur and the bad guys run away shaking their fists and declaring that they’ll get their revenge. The one in particular that I remember had Rambo flying in on his open-cockpitted helicopter, get shot down out of it, and jump up through the blades and parachute out.

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**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-real-im-just-drawn-that-way/662452/33 "2013-07-03T15:22:55Z")

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Ridiculous: The New Scooby-Doo Movies (where they had celebrity guest stars like Sandy Duncan, The Harlem Globetrotters and Sonny & Cher).

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-real-im-just-drawn-that-way/662452/34 "2013-07-03T16:06:44Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> I have seen it and it was pretty bad. It had the G.I.Joe quality to it where the team of bad guys come up with some goofy plot and the team of good guys zoom in to stop them. Huge gunfights occur and the bad guys run away shaking their fists and declaring that they’ll get their revenge. The one in particular that I remember had Rambo flying in on his open-cockpitted helicopter, get shot down out of it, and jump up through the blades and parachute out.

And let us not forget _Chuck Norris: Karate Kommandos_.  
On the other hand, _please_ let me forget that one.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-real-im-just-drawn-that-way/662452/35 "2013-07-03T16:14:49Z")

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Well, heck, are we counting any animated version of a fictional character once depicted in film by a live actor?

There was that _Conan_ cartoon. Admittedly, the character was literary first, but I doubt the cartoon would have been made without the Schwartzenegger films. I remember it as… okay… though sanitized. Conan would hit a lizard-man with his sword (well, he would swing the sword at the lizard-man but the blade would stop before contact) and this was enough to have the lizard-man vanish bloodlessly, banished to another dimension or whatever.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-real-im-just-drawn-that-way/662452/36 "2013-07-03T16:39:16Z")

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Good: Beetlejuice

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-real-im-just-drawn-that-way/662452/37 "2013-07-03T16:42:41Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Good: Beetlejuice

It might even have been better than the movie it was based on.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-real-im-just-drawn-that-way/662452/38 "2013-07-03T18:03:09Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> The Good: _The Beatles_

\*Yellow Submarine \*was great. The short cartoons were awful.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-real-im-just-drawn-that-way/662452/39 "2013-07-03T18:04:18Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Also Bad: _Tales from the Crypt_

Can’t agree there. Tales from the Cryptkeeper was a fine kid version of the adult show. It was Goosebumps before Goosebumps.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-real-im-just-drawn-that-way/662452/40 "2013-07-03T18:28:55Z")

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> [@Push\_You\_Down](#):
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> Can’t agree there. Tales from the Cryptkeeper was a fine kid version of the adult show. It was Goosebumps before Goosebumps.

Okay, now that I think back on it, what I’m remembering is that they gave my then 12-to-13 year old daughter nightmares, so I’ve got negative memories of it. YMMV.

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