# I'm not renewing my subscription. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 6, 2006, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-renewing-my-subscription/351521 "2006-04-06T02:54:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-renewing-my-subscription/351521/41 "2006-04-06T14:00:30Z")
Oh, well. Does each person leaving post a final thread? Are we newbies a lesser class of poster than those brilliant folk from the good old days? I see you feel that > [@](#): > > for some reason the board has attracted lately some real loons, moreso than at most points in the past . Thanks for the broad brush compliment. Have a good RL. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-renewing-my-subscription/351521/42 "2006-04-06T14:01:55Z")
> [@Mr. Moto](#): > > Am I part of the problem? Maybe I am. I certainly feel that way when “debates” here are in reality two sides talking past each other, with neither side being convinced at any time to change their mind. > > Or being willing to be convinced, either. Somehow I just don’t buy this touchy-feely statement. I would have respected you more if you had owned your part of the “two sides talking past each other.” Do I want you to go? No-I enjoy the spectacle and variety that SDMB has to offer. Do I ask that you stay? No-but I think you would get less shit if you admitted that maybe you weren’t openminded about some topics and perhaps a little too willing to deomonize those who did not share your views. IOW, I think you’re trying to be gracious here, but it’s coming off as patronizing. Good luck to you in all future endeavors. **duffer** -snide swipes like “you see the population we’re dealing with” are passive aggressive and do your “side” no good long term. If you want respect, you might want to give some first. I came into this thread half sorry that **Moto** was leaving. Now I’m irritated and wouldn’t mind holding the door for both of you. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-renewing-my-subscription/351521/43 "2006-04-06T14:06:21Z")
Well, I’d rather not see **Mr. Moto** go. He’s contributed good things to this board. I think first of the war heroes threads that various people tried to shit on… but that’s another story. I think if everyone’s opinion were are constantly hardening as everyone has always claimed as been so, all debates would actually be taking place in the Pit and nowhere else. But that’s really not the case. Anyway, I hope you’d consider coming back after a break. I find it kind of boring for liberals like myself to only debate with leftist whackos. ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-renewing-my-subscription/351521/44 "2006-04-06T14:16:01Z")
All you have to do is glance through one of the zombie threads, or some long forgotten thread somebody linked to, and see all the “Guests” or “Banned” posters in them. Some of the names jump out as posters you once noticed, some you never remember reading. I sometimes wonder what happened to them, but even if they had posted a “swan song”, I probably wouldn’t recall that. Just not that big of a deal, really. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-renewing-my-subscription/351521/45 "2006-04-06T14:26:43Z")
This community is what WE make it. Every poster contributes to the tone of this board. I wouldn’t mind if discussions of United Statesian politics disappeared completely (they are extremely boring for those of us with no dog in the race), but I’m not leaving over it. But I do agree that The Pit has gotten pretty stale lately. Have we just roasted everything there is to roast and there’s nothing new to be righteously indignant about? ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-renewing-my-subscription/351521/46 "2006-04-06T14:38:16Z")
> [@featherlou](#): > > But I do agree that The Pit has gotten pretty stale lately. Have we just roasted everything there is to roast and there’s nothing new to be righteously indignant about? There’s plenty to be ‘righteously indignant’ about in the world, but unless it pertains directly to the US political system/activities, it doesn’t seem to mention a blip on the SDMB radar unfortunately. ---
**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-renewing-my-subscription/351521/47 "2006-04-06T14:41:58Z")
> [@Hentor the Barbarian](#): > > Uh, I was expressing a fairly straightforward opinion. **Mr. Moto** is someone I always felt like I would like, had I known him in a more complete context. I still suspect our similarities are greater than our differences. Unfortunately, we interacted primarily around matters of politics, and I expressed my opinion above in a way that only a fucking tool could regard as “passive aggressive.” I’m fairly confident, given your usage, that you don’t know what that term means. Yeah, “pathetic lying asshole” fits you so much better. ---
**Author:** ![Sal\_Ammoniac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@Sal\_Ammoniac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sal_Ammoniac)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-renewing-my-subscription/351521/48 "2006-04-06T14:44:57Z")
Politics aside, there’s probably just a burnout factor here. 5,000+ posts is a lot. I wonder myself if the SDMB will still look as fresh and virginal to me when I get to that point. And FWIW, I think it’s an entirely appropriate for **Moto** to make a parting statement. It’s always a little disconcerting when well-known posters just vanish into the ether. Also FWIW, though **Moto** ’s views are about diametrically opposite mine, and no one could accuse him of being non-partisan, I’ve never found him to be the flaming jerk that some people are, on both sides of the divide. (How’s _that_ for faint praise from the liberal side of the house?) So… _Ave atque vale_, **Moto**. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-renewing-my-subscription/351521/49 "2006-04-06T14:47:00Z")
> [@jali](#): > > Oh, well. > > Does each person leaving post a final thread? > > . no, thankfully. though all the “oh, no puhllleeeeeeeze don’t leave” posts make for a swell parting gift, don’t you think? I’ve a friend here who told me privately they weren’t going to resubscribe. No swan song. just some day in the near future, their status will revert to “Guest”. Folks who care will be able to figure it out. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-renewing-my-subscription/351521/50 "2006-04-06T14:50:13Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > There’s plenty to be ‘righteously indignant’ about in the world, but unless it pertains directly to the US political system/activities, it doesn’t seem to mention a blip on the SDMB radar unfortunately. This is true and a sad statemtent on us. I don’t know the answer to the problem, either–when the USA can get more worked up over a third rate performer’s “wardrobe malfunction” than \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_(fill in foreign crisis/political situation/revoution here). But I apologize for it nonetheless. sorry for the interruption– **Mr Moto** , you were saying how discretion was always the better part for you and…? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-renewing-my-subscription/351521/51 "2006-04-06T14:55:50Z")
Someone’s threatening to leave because of the political attitudes on the SDMB? Gosh, is it Thursday already? Been here six years. People have been saying the same thing for six years. They’ll be saying it six years from now. Ho-hum. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-renewing-my-subscription/351521/52 "2006-04-06T15:07:18Z")
> [@Muad'Dib](#): > > Meh. I just gave up on most debating. Much fun can be had on this board this way. Just MHO. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-renewing-my-subscription/351521/53 "2006-04-06T15:11:36Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > Yeah, “pathetic lying asshole” fits you so much better. How about instead of pissing on **Moto** swan song, you either pit me or just fucko off? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-renewing-my-subscription/351521/54 "2006-04-06T15:15:23Z")
> [@askeptic](#): > > Could you take Clothahump, New Iskander, Steph96 and the rest of your crew with you? Man, you crack me up. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-renewing-my-subscription/351521/55 "2006-04-06T15:17:03Z")
Please reconsider, to one of my favorite posters. Yes, **Hentor** is demonstrating yet again how a small number of assholes can drag a place down. But we need intelligent and principled people to provide a contrast. It’s all about the diversity. Really, take a break, add a bunch of buffoons to your ignore list, and come back. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Xploder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/a183cd/32.png) [@Xploder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xploder)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-renewing-my-subscription/351521/56 "2006-04-06T15:20:55Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Please reconsider, to one of my favorite posters. > > Yes, **Hentor** is demonstrating yet again how a small number of assholes can drag a place down. But we need intelligent and principled people to provide a contrast. > > It’s all about the diversity. > > Really, take a break, add a bunch of buffoons to your ignore list, and come back. > > Regards, > Shodan But if he adds you to his ignore list how will he see this post? I kid, I kid… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-renewing-my-subscription/351521/57 "2006-04-06T15:25:30Z")
**Moto**. You piss me off on a regular basis. Isn’t _that_ worth the price alone? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/45deac/32.png) [@Evil\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_One)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-renewing-my-subscription/351521/58 "2006-04-06T15:35:14Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > I really admired your Heroes series. I want to thank you now, for bringing them to my attention. I second that. Both for drawing attention to those who richly deserve it…and for causing some uncomfortable squirming inside some folks who would never admit to it in a million years. ---
**Author:** ![Elza\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Elza\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elza_B)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-renewing-my-subscription/351521/59 "2006-04-06T15:36:59Z")
Huh. Someone’s saying they’re not renewing. Must be April again. I must be one of the few people around here who doesn’t ever notice a permanent shift in board temperament. Crazies come, crazies go, things get heated, things get boring, people disappear, people come back, charter members turn to guests, guests turn to members. The subject matter may change, but the temperament hasn’t. Yet these complaints come up every single year. Eh, whatever. Maybe I’m just not all that in-tune to the tiny nuances that others seem to be catching. E. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2006, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-renewing-my-subscription/351521/60 "2006-04-06T15:39:35Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Yes, **Hentor** is demonstrating yet again how a small number of assholes can drag a place down. But we need intelligent and principled people to provide a contrast. Look, I’m just not sure how anything I’ve said is so heinous. My opinion about Mr. Moto is complicated by my initial fairly high regard for him and my disdain for his posting style over roughly the past year. I think he is capable of making valuable contributions. Personally, I know that his observation of my tendency to presume the basest motivations behind others’ posts is something I took to heart, and which continues to occur to me as I compose posts. I am quite sure I haven’t completely stopped myself from this practice, but I know that I have revised a good number of posts with his comment in mind. Again, if sniping at me is important, either open a new thread on that topic, or probe yourself anally. We can either discuss how terribly unintelligent I am, or you can pleasure yourself and simultaneously check for polyps. Here’s to your good health! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-renewing-my-subscription/351521.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-renewing-my-subscription/351521.md?page=4)