# Im not sorry and it is a fact **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 29, 2010, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-sorry-and-it-is-a-fact/562246 "2010-11-29T02:48:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-sorry-and-it-is-a-fact/562246/61 "2010-11-30T01:33:59Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > My grandfather smoked two packs a day for 50 years. Then he got run over by a cigarette truck. What’s your excuse for that, **PHILLIP KALAVERAS**? > [@interface2x](#): > > Maybe if he’d lost a little weight, he could have gotten out of the way in time. Or if he’d smoked more he could have used the smoke screen for cover and escaped! ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-sorry-and-it-is-a-fact/562246/62 "2010-11-30T01:40:03Z")
This thread actually has gotten me thinking about my dad. Sixty-something, smoker for years. Always does it outside, but still. He’s got two grandsons now, and that hasn’t stopped him. He doesn’t yet really _want_ to quit, which is the problem. Anything we (the rest of the family) do is useless until that changes, for obvious reasons. Is there any way to MAKE him want to, in your experience, or are we doomed to wait until he gets sick enough? ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-sorry-and-it-is-a-fact/562246/63 "2010-11-30T02:38:14Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Much better to live in an “hysterical state” than a state of denial\*. > \*the new Michigan license plate slogan. Its neighbor to the south will stick with “Four Dead In Ohio”. What did the average Michigan freshman get on his SATs? Drool. ---
**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-sorry-and-it-is-a-fact/562246/64 "2010-11-30T03:01:25Z")
> [@PHILLIP\_KALAVERAS](#): > > A hysterical break. How and win you going to die has everything to do with your genetic make up how FAT you are and ware you live and work, NOTHING to do with tobacco, You may now return to your hysterical state. So if I die in a car accident it might be blamed on my weight or the fact that I live in suburbia? Go figure. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-sorry-and-it-is-a-fact/562246/65 "2010-11-30T03:13:15Z")
> [@PHILLIP\_KALAVERAS](#): > > A hysterical break. How and win you going to die has everything to do with your genetic make up how FAT you are and ware you live and work, NOTHING to do with tobacco, You may now return to your hysterical state. Does your carer know you’re on the internet unsupervised? ---
**Author:** ![lindsaybluth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90db22/32.png) [@lindsaybluth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lindsaybluth)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-sorry-and-it-is-a-fact/562246/66 "2010-11-30T04:19:06Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > \the vast majority of them die by non-smoking related causes (bus accidents, natural disasters, violent crime, eaten by llamas). Because I’m morbid and I think about how I’m going to go, I’ve just decided that the best case scenario would be by llamas. **Best idea ever.** Carry on. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-sorry-and-it-is-a-fact/562246/67 "2010-11-30T04:29:18Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > This thread actually has gotten me thinking about my dad. Sixty-something, smoker for years. Always does it outside, but still. He’s got two grandsons now, and that hasn’t stopped him. He doesn’t yet really _want_ to quit, which is the problem. Anything we (the rest of the family) do is useless until that changes, for obvious reasons. > > Is there any way to MAKE him want to, in your experience, or are we doomed to wait until he gets sick enough? Nope. IME, the ONLY thing that makes a smoker quit is internal motivation, not external motivation. It shocks me to no end that my boyfriend’s mom stopped smoking for three pregnancies - in other words, she got through the worst of it three times - then every time started up again. ---
**Author:** ![ChickenLegs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecc23a/32.png) [@ChickenLegs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChickenLegs)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-sorry-and-it-is-a-fact/562246/68 "2010-11-30T05:30:02Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > Nope. IME, the ONLY thing that makes a smoker quit is internal motivation, not external motivation. > > It shocks me to no end that my boyfriend’s mom stopped smoking for three pregnancies - in other words, she got through the worst of it three times - then every time started up again. It doesn’t shock me. I quit ten months ago, and still miss it like crazy. As I explained to people on this board before: I didn’t smoke because it was cool - I smoked because cigarettes are goooood. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-sorry-and-it-is-a-fact/562246/69 "2010-11-30T06:19:04Z")
> [@Sailboat](#): > > Tobacco kills 5.1 million smokers and 600,000 other people _standing nearby_ [every year](http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2010/11/26/Report-Secondhand-smoke-kills-600000/UPI-34041290802386/). They should consider standing somewhere else. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-sorry-and-it-is-a-fact/562246/70 "2010-11-30T06:52:53Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > They should consider standing somewhere else. It’s too late now. ---
**Author:** ![cerberus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cerberus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cerberus)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2010, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-not-sorry-and-it-is-a-fact/562246/71 "2010-11-30T06:57:13Z")
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