# I'm officially disowning my hometown. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 14, 2008, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-officially-disowning-my-hometown/467860 "2008-10-14T13:03:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-officially-disowning-my-hometown/467860/101 "2008-10-15T15:53:44Z")
> [@](#): > > Apparently McCain and Palin share that impression – they fail to throw people like Monkey Man out of their rallies because they fear alienating what they perceive to be a significant fraction of their base. And they didn’t. They could have made a statement or an effort to distance themselves from this sort of nut jobs, but they didn’t. > [@](#): > > Nope. The point is that they acted out their crude bigotry at McCain/Palin events, and McCain and Palin thus had a responsibility – which they completely abdicated – to shut them down and kick them out. But they don’t do anything to distance themselves at all. It THAT is their base, then to hell with their base and of they are going to tolerate that sort of thing, then to hell with them too. ---
**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-officially-disowning-my-hometown/467860/102 "2008-10-15T15:55:16Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > However, last time I checked, I haven’t seen any videos at Obama rallies with people yelling KILL HIM, and people bringing NOOSES. The Secret Service doesn’t investigate people flipping the bird. They DO investigate death threats. For you to try and equate the two is fucking SICK and psychotic. See, that’s exactly the sort of crass behavior **Starving Artist** is talking about. Why must you resort to curses and insults? Why not simply threaten to kill him instead? Oh, that’s right, I forgot: the liberal SDMB doesn’t ALLOW that. They’ll gladly engender and promote trailer park-style langauge, but their much-vaunted “tolerance” doesn’t extend to death threats. Do you not see how this totalitarian oppression even extends to control of the language? Why is there an entire forum dedicated to liberal jeering, and yet expressing the same kind of support for McCain as they do at his rallies is _verboten_? Liberal “free speech?” Open your eyes! ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-officially-disowning-my-hometown/467860/103 "2008-10-15T15:55:26Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > For you to try and equate the two is fucking SICK and psychotic. You just absolutely can not argue honestly, can you? I do not equate them, I have never equated them, and I have said so in this very thread. What is wrong with you? ---
**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-officially-disowning-my-hometown/467860/104 "2008-10-15T16:03:48Z")
Yeah **Guinastasia** , what is wrong with you? You’re just making liberals look bad. Cease your grotesque falsehoods, lest we be forced to threaten your life. Do you think the rest of us can’t read? As post #31 and others make clear, \*\*Starving Artist \*\*IN NO WAY equates death threats with rude behavior. It’s made very plain that rude behavior is SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE. ---
**Author:** ![shy\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@shy\_guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shy_guy)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-officially-disowning-my-hometown/467860/105 "2008-10-15T16:35:18Z")
I’m just finding it sort of funny that anyone could take seriously a video that has completely nutbar captions like “Republicans in New York: Less Equal Than Others.” Because - of course - Republicans are definitely the only people in New York City who have to deal with jeers and rude behavior 😛 That’s even beside the problems of trying to draw some sort of equivalency between people shouting things like “Boo!” at a march taking place in front of their homes and others using lies, racial slurs, and slander at a political rally. I’m not a huge fan of “Look how racist Republicans are!” videos because of the degree to which you can edit footage of a large crowd to make it appear one way or the other, but come _on_. If you’re bold enough to have a political march right in the middle of somebody’s neighborhood, you should be man enough to take some incredibly mild jeers without whining about it and crying about supression of free speech. ---
**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-officially-disowning-my-hometown/467860/106 "2008-10-15T16:44:46Z")
> [@shy\_guy](#): > > I’m just finding it sort of funny that anyone could take seriously a video that has completely nutbar captions like “Republicans in New York: Less Equal Than Others.” In fairness, you are not supposed to notice the captions at all. They’re intended as subliminal messages, only timed to the rate at which conservative synapses fire. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-officially-disowning-my-hometown/467860/107 "2008-10-15T18:23:08Z")
> [@Terrifel](#): > > In fairness, you are not supposed to notice the captions at all. They’re intended as subliminal messages, only timed to the rate at which conservative synapses fire. Careful with that brush there, that’s my parents and brother you’re talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Pullet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Pullet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pullet)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-officially-disowning-my-hometown/467860/108 "2008-10-15T19:00:51Z")
Where’s my deathnote pad? Dude with the stuffed monkey needs to die. From what little I understand, in the show Deathnote, a character can have another person killed by a horrible monster by writting the person’s name on a special paper and having seen their face once ---
**Author:** ![Claptree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58f4c7/32.png) [@Claptree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claptree)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-officially-disowning-my-hometown/467860/109 "2008-10-15T21:45:20Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I’ve seenthis in the country at large since the late sixties, I see it here, and I see it in the New York video. It’s how a great many of you guys go about your daily lives. “Agree with me or be deemed detestable scum unworthy of either respect or consideration” would seem to be their motto, and they then behave accordingly. Agreed. At no time during the current administration have the Right tried to quell dissent by calling people with differing opinions scum. Absolutely not. No sir, no calls of un-Americanism directed at people protesting a war. Definitely not from elected officials. The Left on the other hand, oh mama! > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > The McCain dipshits are inconsequential. They have no numbers and they have no impact. Nor do they represent typical conservative behavior in the main. The liberals’ in New York City, on the other hand, do have numbers and they do have impact, and their behavior is perfectly consistent with typical liberal intolerance and repressiveness over the last few decades. > > IOW, the New Yorkers typify liberal behavior; the McCain assholes do not typify conservative behavior. How many New Yorkers did you see screaming abuse (or flipping the bird, or making faces) in your video? Did you notice any cuts and edits in the video? Are you aware that New York City has well over 8 million inhabitants? Let me guess - it confirms what you believe to be true since it rhymes with your own experiences? ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-officially-disowning-my-hometown/467860/110 "2008-10-15T23:02:19Z")
> [@shy\_guy](#): > > I’m just finding it sort of funny that anyone could take seriously a video that has completely nutbar captions like “Republicans in New York: Less Equal Than Others.” Yep. Who’s the mayor of NYC again? ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-officially-disowning-my-hometown/467860/111 "2008-10-15T23:29:51Z")
[Here’s](http://www.sacbee.com/812/story/1314854.html) the very very classy Sacramento GOP: > [@](#): > > Sacramento County Republican leaders Tuesday took down offensive material on their official party Web site that sought to link Sen. Barack Obama to Osama bin Laden and encouraged people to “Waterboard Barack Obama” – material that offended even state GOP leaders. Nice to know it isn’t limited just to people in line at rallies, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-officially-disowning-my-hometown/467860/112 "2008-10-15T23:47:10Z")
Inside **Starving Artist** ’s brain: Video of 20 or so conservatives acting like insensitive clods = meh, a few bad apples … Video of 20 or so liberals acting like insensitive clods = endemic of the whole liberal movement, by god! ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-officially-disowning-my-hometown/467860/113 "2008-10-16T00:08:10Z")
And if you were still unconvinced that the GOP is the party of [class, dignity, and decorum](http://www.tboblogs.com/index.php/news/story/joke-about-killing-obama-circulated-by-top-gop-figure/): > [@](#): > > Al Austin, a veteran, high-level Republican fundraiser from Tampa, today sent an email to his list of his political contacts containing a joke that refers to the assassination of Barack Obama. We should all aspire to have this much class. ---
**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-officially-disowning-my-hometown/467860/114 "2008-10-16T00:12:41Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > And if you were still unconvinced that the GOP is the party of [class, dignity, and decorum](http://www.tboblogs.com/index.php/news/story/joke-about-killing-obama-circulated-by-top-gop-figure/): > > We should all aspire to have this much class. What the hell?! These people are being arrested and charged, I hope! ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-officially-disowning-my-hometown/467860/115 "2008-10-16T00:21:04Z")
> [@C3](#): > > What the hell?! These people are being arrested and charged, I hope! The joke wasn’t something that merits arrest. It was just classless and ugly. Oops, I mean classy and stylish. ---
**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-officially-disowning-my-hometown/467860/116 "2008-10-16T00:22:45Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > The joke wasn’t something that merits arrest. It was just classless and ugly. Oops, I mean classy and stylish. Okay, maybe not arrest in that case, but certainly an uncomfortable conversation. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-officially-disowning-my-hometown/467860/117 "2008-10-16T00:29:06Z")
That joke was a [subject in this very Pit](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=484524&highlight=obama+tragedy) I wouldn’t call out the hit squads just yet. Not like it’s the height of civility, but it’s hardly a high crime, or a misdemeanor. ---
**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-officially-disowning-my-hometown/467860/118 "2008-10-16T02:00:15Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > Careful with that brush there, that’s my parents and brother you’re talking about. Well, if they can also detect those messages, then obviously their synapses are not that slow. Which means that there’s hope for them yet. (Cut me a little slack, it wouldn’t have been as funny if I’d limited it to “the rate at which **Starving Artist** ’s synapses fire.” Why would anyone make a video just to subliminally persuade **Starving Artist** to do something?) Vote Obama Starving Artist Vote Obama Worship Obama Praise Obama He is your savior Repent your conservativism and come into the light Starving Artist Flip off conservatives No war Starving Artist ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-officially-disowning-my-hometown/467860/119 "2008-10-16T09:26:04Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > I’m sorry, shouting, “KILL HIM!” and making death threats against the guy… > [@Terrifel](#): > > Why not simply threaten to kill him instead? > [@Terrifel](#): > > Starving Artist IN NO WAY equates death threats with rude behavior… [The Secret Service calls bullshit.](http://www.timesleader.com/news/breakingnews/Secret_Service_says_Kill_him_allegation_unfounded_.html) I didn’t think I heard any death threats in that video. Good to see that I was correct. Anyone care to posit on the political leanings of the reporter who appears to be the only person there who heard it? **Countdown to usual suspects claiming that by posting this I’m siding with the bigots, starting in five…four…three…** ---
**Author:** ![Claptree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58f4c7/32.png) [@Claptree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claptree)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-officially-disowning-my-hometown/467860/120 "2008-10-16T11:19:41Z")
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