# Im older than you ! even though you were born the day before me.
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-older-than-you-even-though-you-were-born-the-day-before-me/402339
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [May 1, 2007, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-older-than-you-even-though-you-were-born-the-day-before-me/402339 "2007-05-01T17:44:34Z")
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### Author:  [@Chew\_Barker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chew_Barker)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2007, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-older-than-you-even-though-you-were-born-the-day-before-me/402339/1 "2007-05-01T17:44:34Z")
When doing nothing particularly constructive I came across the fact that Avril Lavigne is born the day before me (27-Sep-1984). Now I have been told by my mum that I was born at 1:10 am on the 28th. I dont know if there is some sort of universal time used for recording births for birth certificates or whatever.
However, due to the time difference between the UK and Canada (what is it ? about 5 hours for the East coast ?) I could be a few hours older than Avril if she was born after 8:10pm Canada time, but she will always be documented as being older.
I just thought this was neat.
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### Author:  [@Redfrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Redfrost)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2007, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-older-than-you-even-though-you-were-born-the-day-before-me/402339/2 "2007-05-01T21:17:44Z")
Just another stoned thought…hmmm? 😃
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### Author:  [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2007, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-older-than-you-even-though-you-were-born-the-day-before-me/402339/3 "2007-05-01T21:46:46Z")
Consider this, then - it’s possible for the younger of a pair of twins to have his or her birthday two, or even three days _before_ the elder twin. I leave it as an exercise for the reader to work out how (relativistic time dilation is not required).
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### Author:  [@Mbossa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mbossa)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2007, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-older-than-you-even-though-you-were-born-the-day-before-me/402339/4 "2007-05-01T22:37:54Z")
Definitely not the answer you’re looking for, but healthy twins have been born [56 days apart](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/021108.html). So two or three days isn’t much of a stretch. 😛
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### Author:  [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2007, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-older-than-you-even-though-you-were-born-the-day-before-me/402339/5 "2007-05-01T22:52:40Z")
Yeah, but the younger twin’s birthday still occurs after the elder one’s. Now, if they had been born 363 days apart you might be on to something.
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### Author:  [@Mbossa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mbossa)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2007, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-older-than-you-even-though-you-were-born-the-day-before-me/402339/6 "2007-05-01T23:09:26Z")
Damn, missed that part.
I’m guessing the real solution involves crossing the international date line, possibly with a daylight saving switchover thrown in for good measure. My brain’s too dead at the moment to figure out the directions and numbers, though.
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### Author:  [@Scarlett67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scarlett67)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2007, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-older-than-you-even-though-you-were-born-the-day-before-me/402339/7 "2007-05-01T23:22:19Z")
Crossing the international date line on February 29?
Other than that, I got nuthin’.
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### Author:  [@Mbossa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mbossa)
#### Post date: [May 1, 2007, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-older-than-you-even-though-you-were-born-the-day-before-me/402339/8 "2007-05-01T23:40:30Z")
Crossing the international date line during the Gregorian calendar reform, which involved skipping 10-13 days?
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### Author:  [@Chew\_Barker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chew_Barker)
#### Post date: [May 2, 2007, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-older-than-you-even-though-you-were-born-the-day-before-me/402339/9 "2007-05-02T09:53:33Z")
Come on then **Usram** what is the answer? I think **Scarlett67** is pretty close.
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### Author:  [@Ximenean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ximenean)
#### Post date: [May 2, 2007, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-older-than-you-even-though-you-were-born-the-day-before-me/402339/10 "2007-05-02T10:36:53Z")
Very close. But you need to cross the date line in a non-leap year.
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### Author:  [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)
#### Post date: [May 2, 2007, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-older-than-you-even-though-you-were-born-the-day-before-me/402339/11 "2007-05-02T11:06:42Z")
[QUOTE=Chew Barker]
However, due to the time difference between the UK and Canada (what is it ? about 5 hours for the East coast ?)
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5 hours for the Eastern time zone (which is what you’re looking for - Avril’s from Ontario) 3.5 hours for the actual eastern end of the country, 4 for the rest of ‘the East Coast’.