# I'm out of movies **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 13, 2007, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-out-of-movies/419037 "2007-09-13T05:40:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-out-of-movies/419037/101 "2007-09-16T22:00:34Z")
[QUOTE=DanBlather] Try the original Zaitoichi movies. [/QUOTE] Yeah, we have all those. I’ve been eyeing them. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-out-of-movies/419037/102 "2007-09-16T22:07:45Z")
You may have already seen it, but try Dot the I. It’s a little over-the-top, but hey, it’s the guy’s first feature-length film, and the story is truly captivating. His future work should be even better, once he reins in the gimmicks a little. It’s kind of like a British/Spanish Memento without the amnesia or the “lone warrior” aspect. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-out-of-movies/419037/103 "2007-09-16T22:19:32Z")
[QUOTE=picunurse] I’m late to the dance, so my suggestion may have been mentioned, if so, I’m sorry for being redundant. My offerings are [Leaving Normal](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0104697/) and [Mr Frost](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0100161/). [/QUOTE] Hah! My cousin’s in _Leaving Normal_; saw the rough cut, seen it many many times. Will check out _Mr. Frost._ ---
**Author:** ![Paladud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Paladud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paladud)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-out-of-movies/419037/104 "2007-09-16T23:22:13Z")
[QUOTE=KneadToKnow] Then I have to ask a follow-up question: Do they all revolve aroundincestor was that unique to _Oldboy_? [/QUOTE] The first one (which was inferior to Oldboy, fwiw) did not. Not sure about the third. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-out-of-movies/419037/105 "2007-09-16T23:25:59Z")
Notes on a Scandal was really good. I don’t know too many people who’ve seen it, but it is a top-notch movie. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-out-of-movies/419037/106 "2007-09-16T23:29:20Z")
[QUOTE=Kalhoun] Notes on a Scandal was really good. I don’t know too many people who’ve seen it, but it is a top-notch movie. [/QUOTE] I thought it was well done all around, but I’m just \*so \*tired of watching people destroy each other out of self-loathing. For entertainment. ---
**Author:** ![picunurse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@picunurse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picunurse)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2007, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-out-of-movies/419037/107 "2007-09-17T09:07:06Z")
Here are two others that may or may not be obscure. They are both pretty creepy. [Damage](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104237/) and [Boxing Helena](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0106471/). ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-out-of-movies/419037/108 "2007-09-18T15:24:59Z")
Some more films that I like reasonably well: A Little Romance (1979, U.S., dir. George Roy Hill) A New Leaf (1971, U.S., dir. Elaine May) Night on Earth (1991, U.S., dir. Jim Jarmusch) Notting Hill (1999, U.K./U.S., dir. Roger Michell) Obsession (1976, U.S., dir. Brian De Palma) Penn & Teller Get Killed (1989, U.S., dir. Arthur Penn) The Rapture (1991, U.S., dir. Michael Tolkin) Real Genius (1985, U.S., dir. Martha Coolidge) Repo Man (1984, U.S., dir. Alex Cox) Return of the Secaucus 7 (1980, U.S., dir. John Sayles) Richard Pryor: Live in Concert (1979, U.S., dir. Jeff Margolis) Rob Roy (1995, U.S., dir. Michael Caton-Jones) The Seduction of Mimi (1972, Italy, dir. Lina Wertmuller) Solaris (1972, Soviet Union, dir. Andrei Tarkovsky) Something Wicked This Way Comes (1983, U.S., dir. Jack Clayton) Streets of Fire (1984, U.S., dir. Walter Hill) Sweet and Lowdown (1999, U.S., dir. Woody Allen) Trouble in Mind (1985, U.S., dir. Alan Rudolph) True Identity (1991, U.S., dir. Charles Lane) Unmade Beds (1997, U.S., dir. Nicholas Barker) Visions of Light: The Art of Cinematography (1992, U.S., dir. Arnold Glassman, Todd McCarthy, Stuart Samuels) The Warriors (1979, U.S., dir. Walter Hill) When We Were Kings (1996, U.S., dir. Leon Gast) Who Am I This Time? (a.k.a. American Playhouse: Who Am I This Time?) (1982, U.S., dir. Jonathan Demme) The Wizard of Speed and Time (the 95-minute version) (1988, U.S., dir. Mike Jittlov) Zelig (1983, U.S., dir. Woody Allen) And some more from my list of 100 favorites that you might conceivably not have seen: American Splendor (2003, U.S., dir. Shari Springer Berman, Robert Pulcini) Being John Malkovich (1999, U.S., dir. Spike Jonze) Camille (1937, U.S., dir. George Cukor) Forbidden Planet (1956, U.S., dir. Fred McLeod Wilcox) Freaks (1932, U.S., dir. Tod Browning) When Harry Met Sally (1989, U.S., dir. Rob Reiner) ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-out-of-movies/419037/109 "2007-09-18T16:25:31Z")
Point of order. A lot of the films mentioned in this thread are not readily available for rent at the present time. I guess if money is no object, you could track down and purchase some of the out-of-print or never-in-print titles. Just sayin’s all. ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-out-of-movies/419037/110 "2007-09-18T16:38:09Z")
Really? Could you name some of the films that aren’t currently available? It doesn’t appear to me to be that many. ---
**Author:** ![Jamaika\_a\_jamaikaiake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7993a0/32.png) [@Jamaika\_a\_jamaikaiake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jamaika_a_jamaikaiake)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-out-of-movies/419037/111 "2007-09-18T17:43:52Z")
Have you seen this German movie called [Ali: Fear Eats the Soul](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071141/) by Rainer Fassbinder? I really like it. Also, [7:35am](http://735am.com/) is a really neat short movie. (That’s not an IMDB link, it’s a link to the movie.) I agree that _Dersu Uzala_ is Kurosawa’s best (that I’ve seen). Regarding your criticism: I did get to see a few on the big screen, and they are _really_ pretty films. Isn’t that part of what makes movies like _Lawrence of Arabia_ or _Dark City_ great? You’ve seen a lot of Werner Herzog, right? He has a newish one, _Incident at Loch Ness_, which it is absolutely imperative that you watch the director’s commentary after watching the regular movie (though it’s not a bad idea with most of his movies.) Have you seen [Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081746/) ? Apropriately enough, that was the first Herzog movie I saw. Tokyo Story(1953) by Yasujiro Ozu? Land Without Bread(1933) by Bunuel? Raskolnikow (1923)? (Great example of German Expressionism) Hungarian Movies: Anything by Istvan Szabo Régi idök focija (1973) (“Old-time football”) Kontroll (2003) I have a friend like you who watches a lot of movies (used to be about 3 a day, with 5 a day not being unusual.). I get a lot of education/recommendations from him. I also used to live next to doc films, which was an education all to itself. I would suggest moving there. I have a question. Don’t you hate the movie Pi? Why do people think its good? ---
**Author:** ![Jamaika\_a\_jamaikaiake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7993a0/32.png) [@Jamaika\_a\_jamaikaiake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jamaika_a_jamaikaiake)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-out-of-movies/419037/112 "2007-09-18T17:58:22Z")
Oh, if you’re going to watch Régi idök focija (1973) (“Old-time football”) you should have someone explain a bit about the Hungarian national identity first. Especially during communism ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-out-of-movies/419037/113 "2007-09-18T18:55:30Z")
[QUOTE=Wendell Wagner] Really? Could you name some of the films that aren’t currently available? It doesn’t appear to me to be that many. [/QUOTE] You’re right. I should have said “some” of the films are not readily available. Not via Netflix, anyway, which is the service I use to rent movies. ---
**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-out-of-movies/419037/114 "2007-09-18T23:56:52Z")
If you have a good internet connection, you can check out [UbuWeb Film & Video](http://www.ubu.com/film/), which has a lot of classic avant-garde films. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2007, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-out-of-movies/419037/115 "2007-09-19T22:38:05Z")
[QUOTE=picunurse] Here are two others that may or may not be obscure. They are both pretty creepy. [Damage](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104237/) and [Boxing Helena](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0106471/). [/QUOTE] _Damage is not my favorite Malle, but worth seeing. Boxing Helena_ is a terrible, terrible movie that everyone should see at least twice. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2007, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-out-of-movies/419037/116 "2007-09-19T22:48:46Z")
[QUOTE=Jamaika a jamaikaiaké] Have you seen [Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081746/) ? Apropriately enough, that was the first Herzog movie I saw. [/QUOTE] [nitpick] The film’s about Herzog, but the film is by Les Blank (as is the amazing documentary **Burden of Dreams** , also starring Herzog). [/nitpick] ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2007, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-out-of-movies/419037/117 "2007-09-19T23:15:30Z")
[QUOTE=Wendell Wagner] Some more films that I like reasonably well: [snip] [/QUOTE] Thanks, WW, there are a couple in there I haven’t seen. And a couple that have already been mentioned this thread. 😉 I appreciate your enthusiasm. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2007, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-out-of-movies/419037/118 "2007-09-19T23:44:58Z")
[QUOTE=Talon Karrde] If you have a good internet connection, you can check out [UbuWeb Film & Video](http://www.ubu.com/film/), which has a lot of classic avant-garde films. [/QUOTE] Yes, I’ve been exploring it, thanks to **Panurge** ’s mention above. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2007, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-out-of-movies/419037/119 "2007-09-19T23:48:31Z")
[QUOTE=randwill] Point of order. A lot of the films mentioned in this thread are not readily available for rent at the present time. I guess if money is no object, you could track down and purchase some of the out-of-print or never-in-print titles. Just sayin’s all. [/QUOTE] Yes, I have a LOOOOOOOOOOOOONG list of unavailable movies that I put a lot of effort into tracking down. When a title spends a long time at the top of that list, sometimes I’m forced to overcome my better instincts and purchase a copy of, um, shall we say _uncertain provenance. Like Titicut Follies_. (Let’s just say that \*everything \*shows up on eBay sooner or later. And everything is “available” in Hong Kong.) ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2007, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-out-of-movies/419037/120 "2007-09-19T23:57:22Z")
[QUOTE=Jamaika a jamaikaiaké] Have you seen this German movie called [Ali: Fear Eats the Soul](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071141/) by Rainer Fassbinder? I really like it. [/QUOTE] Yes, I own it, along with it’s companion pieces, Sirk’s\* All That Heaven Will Allow\* and Hayne’s _Far from Heaven_. [QUOTE=Jamaika a jamaikaiaké] Also, [7:35am](http://735am.com/) is a really neat short movie. (That’s not an IMDB link, it’s a link to the movie.) [/QUOTE] Will check out. Thanks. [QUOTE=Jamaika a jamaikaiaké] I agree that _Dersu Uzala_ is Kurosawa’s best (that I’ve seen). Regarding your criticism: I did get to see a few on the big screen, and they are _really_ pretty films. Isn’t that part of what makes movies like _Lawrence of Arabia_ or _Dark City_ great? [/QUOTE] No, it’s part of what makes them _good_; greatness happens below the surface image. (To vastly oversimplify.) [QUOTE=Jamaika a jamaikaiaké] You’ve seen a lot of Werner Herzog, right? He has a newish one, _Incident at Loch Ness_, which it is absolutely imperative that you watch the director’s commentary after watching the regular movie (though it’s not a bad idea with most of his movies.) Have you seen [Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081746/) ? Apropriately enough, that was the first Herzog movie I saw. [/QUOTE] Neither of these are Herzog films; he just appears in them. In any case, they’re both a hoot. \*Shoe \*is available on youtube. [QUOTE=Jamaika a jamaikaiaké] Tokyo Story(1953) by Yasujiro Ozu? [/QUOTE] In my lifetime top ten. [QUOTE=Jamaika a jamaikaiaké] Land Without Bread(1933) by Bunuel? [/QUOTE] Seen a lot of Bunuel, but not that one. Thanks. [QUOTE=Jamaika a jamaikaiaké] Raskolnikow (1923)? (Great example of German Expressionism) [/QUOTE] Will seek out. Thanks. [QUOTE=Jamaika a jamaikaiaké] Hungarian Movies: Anything by Istvan Szabo [/QUOTE] Yes! I love his stuff. [QUOTE=Jamaika a jamaikaiaké] Régi idök focija (1973) (“Old-time football”) [/QUOTE] Will seek out. Thanks. [QUOTE=Jamaika a jamaikaiaké] Kontroll (2003) [/QUOTE] Watched the other night, coincidentally. Good, not great. [QUOTE=Jamaika a jamaikaiaké] I have a friend like you who watches a lot of movies (used to be about 3 a day, with 5 a day not being unusual.). I get a lot of education/recommendations from him. I also used to live next to doc films, which was an education all to itself. I would suggest moving there. [/QUOTE] I used to live near Facets. Now I live not too far from Scarecrow. Both worth moving to be closer to. [QUOTE=Jamaika a jamaikaiaké] I have a question. Don’t you hate the movie Pi? Why do people think its good? [/QUOTE] I think it’s effective. It gets extra points for being a directorial debut; if it had been his fourth or fifth it might have been seen as a let down. I benefits greatly from knowing that it was accomplished by a firsttime filmmaker with little or no budget. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-out-of-movies/419037.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-out-of-movies/419037.md?page=7)