# I'm pissed off with the multi part movie craze **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 21, 2012, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pissed-off-with-the-multi-part-movie-craze/632144 "2012-08-21T06:24:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pissed-off-with-the-multi-part-movie-craze/632144/1 "2012-08-21T06:24:48Z")
A movie is a movie, meaning it should adhere to certain format limitations. One of which is that it should have a satisfying ending, that doesn’t mean everything should be resolved with nothing left for a sequel. It means I don’t pay money to see something in a theater with TO BE CONTINUED at an abrupt spot as if it was a TV serial. Trilogies with random break points were bad enough(Matrix 2 and LOTR) but now I get half the movie for the price of a full ticket?! The Hobbit has swelled to three parts, maybe more. I’m sure one or more of The Hunger Games adaptations will be multipart too. If you need more space than a movie to properly adapt you make a miniseries or TV show. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pissed-off-with-the-multi-part-movie-craze/632144/2 "2012-08-21T06:42:27Z")
Uh huh. So a movie from 2003 and “The Lord of the Rings” \*trilogy \*(from you know, the \*trilogy \*of books) is now a “craze”? Or do you actually have any recent examples of what you are talking about? ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pissed-off-with-the-multi-part-movie-craze/632144/3 "2012-08-21T06:53:36Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > Uh huh. So a movie from 2003 and “The Lord of the Rings” \*trilogy \*(from you know, the \*trilogy \*of books) is now a “craze”? Or do you actually have any recent examples of what you are talking about? > **[The Twilight Saga (film series)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twilight_Saga_%28film_series%29)** > > The Twilight Saga is a series of romance fantasy films based on the book series Twilight by Stephenie Meyer. The series has grossed over $3.36 billion worldwide. The first installment, Twilight, was released on November 21, 2008. The second installment, New Moon, followed on November 20, 2009. The third installment, Eclipse, was released on June 30, 2010. The fourth installment, Breaking Dawn – Part 1, was released on November 18, 2011, while the fifth and final installment, Breaking The serie... > [@](#): > > The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn was directed by Bill Condon, and author Stephenie Meyer will co-produce the film along with Karen Rosenfelt and Wyck Godfrey; Melissa Rosenberg will pen the script.[77] The book’s plot will be split into two films, the first of which was released on November 18, 2011.[11][78] The second will be released on November 16, 2012.[12] The filming of Breaking Dawn began in November 2010. The first part follows Bella and Edward as they get married and then learn that Bella has become pregnant. > **[The Hobbit (film series)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hobbit_%28film_series%29)** > > The Hobbit is a trilogy of fantasy adventure films directed by Peter Jackson. The films are subtitled An Unexpected Journey (2012), The Desolation of Smaug (2013), and The Battle of the Five Armies (2014). The films are based on J. R. R. Tolkien's 1937 novel The Hobbit, but much of the trilogy was inspired by the appendices to his 1954–55 The Lord of the Rings, which expand on the story told in The Hobbit. Additional material and new characters were created specially for the films. The series... > [@](#): > > On Monday, 30 July 2012, Jackson confirmed plans to make a third film, turning his adaptation of The Hobbit into a trilogy.[6][7] According to Jackson, the third film would make extensive use of the appendices that Tolkien wrote to expand the story of Middle-Earth (published in the back of The Return of the King). Martin Freeman and Sir Ian McKellen have already been contacted about appearing in a third film.[150] > **[Harry Potter (film series)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_%28film_series%29)** > > Harry Potter is a film series based on the Harry Potter series of novels by J. K. Rowling. The series was produced and distributed by Warner Bros. Pictures and consists of eight fantasy films, beginning with Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (2001) and culminating with Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 2 (2011). A spin-off prequel series started with Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them (2016), marking the beginning of the Wizarding World shared media franchise. > The serie... > [@](#): > > On 12 June 2010, filming of the Deathly Hallows – Part 1 and Deathly Hallows – Part 2 was completed with actor Warwick Davis stating on his Twitter account, ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pissed-off-with-the-multi-part-movie-craze/632144/4 "2012-08-21T07:13:42Z")
Adjusted for inflation, how do modern ticket prices to see a trilogy compare to 1940s prices to see a 13-part serial? Admitted, with the serial you also got a feature, a cartoon and a newsreel. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pissed-off-with-the-multi-part-movie-craze/632144/5 "2012-08-21T07:53:29Z")
Warwick Davis stating what!?!? He’ll be in a seventh/eighth Leprechaun film? I agree to some extent - some movies seem like they’re stretching it out for the money, and I don’t like that. Or when they blatantly and ham-handedly set up for a sequel in the end. But I can’t complain if they want to give me more Middle Earth, or more Harry Potter, or umm… more Twilight…? If they’re making movies based on the Silmarillion or whatever, it’s hardly just milking the Hobbit, which is barely involved. And have you seen a full set of Harry Potter on a bookshelf? The last book is much thicker than the first one. I’m surprised they didn’t turn any of the other ones into two-parter. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pissed-off-with-the-multi-part-movie-craze/632144/6 "2012-08-21T14:28:40Z")
I agree. A story should have a beginning, middle and an end even if it is a part of a trilogy or movie series. To just chop a movie in half is lame. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pissed-off-with-the-multi-part-movie-craze/632144/7 "2012-08-21T14:34:57Z")
I’d much rather have a multi-part set of movies than one that dumped 3/4 of the story to make a 2 hour run time. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pissed-off-with-the-multi-part-movie-craze/632144/8 "2012-08-21T14:42:20Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > I’d much rather have a multi-part set of movies than one that dumped 3/4 of the story to make a 2 hour run time. Totally, totally, agreed. If the story within a movie is cogent, then I don’t mind waiting for the next movie for the next chapter. I mean, I think LOTR did it well, as did the Bourne movies - each movie ended on a place I could walk away from, and wait for the next one. I am happy with the trend of these movies. Now if they’re not done as well, like (IMO of course) the Nolan Batman movies, it doesn’t work so well. But that bothered me more because each individual movie was too long and had too much filler, rather than the series. ---
**Author:** ![tomcar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tomcar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomcar)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pissed-off-with-the-multi-part-movie-craze/632144/9 "2012-08-21T15:09:34Z")
It’s all sequels, remakes, franchises, reboots and established pop culture icons in American films these days. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pissed-off-with-the-multi-part-movie-craze/632144/10 "2012-08-21T15:19:42Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > I’d much rather have a multi-part set of movies than one that dumped 3/4 of the story to make a 2 hour run time. Definitely agree. If you don’t think so, try watching the 2 hour version of the originally seven hour epic Russian version of _War and Peace_ Or try watching David Lynch’s _Dune_. Pepper Mill saw it before reading the book, an criticized it for leaving most of the book out. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pissed-off-with-the-multi-part-movie-craze/632144/11 "2012-08-21T15:26:28Z")
Making _The Hobbit_ into a three-parter is simply a money grab, there is no reason that story needs to be 6+ hours long. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pissed-off-with-the-multi-part-movie-craze/632144/12 "2012-08-21T15:42:56Z")
Ralph Bakshi’s 1978 _Lord Of The Rings_-Not only was it the first half of a two parter, but it stopped in the middle of a battle! ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pissed-off-with-the-multi-part-movie-craze/632144/13 "2012-08-21T16:00:52Z")
The word “cliffhanger” comes from turn of the centuries film serials tendency to end an installment with the hero hanging off the end of a cliff, to make sure the audience would buy tickets for the next installment. So its a little silly to call it a craze or not part of the “format limitations” of movies. Its an intrinsic enough part of film making that its introduced a common word to the English language. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pissed-off-with-the-multi-part-movie-craze/632144/14 "2012-08-21T16:20:24Z")
> [@tomcar](#): > > It’s all sequels, remakes, franchises, reboots and established pop culture icons in American films these days. Remakes today don’t have anything on remakes from the 10s/20s/30s. The 1939 version of **The Wizard of Oz** is the fifth movie version of the story. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pissed-off-with-the-multi-part-movie-craze/632144/15 "2012-08-21T16:22:58Z")
Yeah, why can’t we have _original_ movies any more like _The Maltese Falcon_! ---
**Author:** ![tomcar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tomcar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomcar)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pissed-off-with-the-multi-part-movie-craze/632144/16 "2012-08-21T16:40:42Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Yeah, why can’t we have _original_ movies any more like _The Maltese Falcon_! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pissed-off-with-the-multi-part-movie-craze/632144/17 "2012-08-21T18:03:11Z")
Damn that Flash Gordon! Although, [according to wiki](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movie_serials), there were many older serials. > [@](#): > > Serials were a popular form of movie entertainment dating back to Edison’s What Happened to Mary? of 1912. There appear to be older serials, however, such as the 1910 Deutsche Vitaskop 5 episode Arsene Lupin Contra Sherlock Holmes, based upon the Maurice LeBlanc novel,[1] and a possible but unconfirmed Raffles serial in 1911.[2] ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim_r.mortiss/32/142_2.png) [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_R.Mortiss)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pissed-off-with-the-multi-part-movie-craze/632144/18 "2012-08-21T18:14:01Z")
I might dislike this process if the movie was an original story. But most of the examples mentioned here are based on books, sometimes \*very old \*books. Many movie-goers will have already read them, so they aren’t there for the story. They are there for the spectacle. I’d rather have three times the spectacle than a single movie, if it was a book I loved. And if I hadn’t read it before, I could always go out and read it after the first movie. Also, a movie is not analogous to a novel; a movie is analogous to a short story (remember the definition: you can finish it in one sitting). So to try to shoehorn a novel into a two-hour (or even three-hour) movie definitely requires jettisoning much of the source material. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pissed-off-with-the-multi-part-movie-craze/632144/19 "2012-08-21T18:24:07Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > Uh huh. So a movie from 2003 and “The Lord of the Rings” \*trilogy \*(from you know, the \*trilogy \*of books) is now a “craze”? Or do you actually have any recent examples of what you are talking about? Well, in all fairness to the OP, there does seem to be a lot of “lets break this big book into 2+ films” movies: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows I and II Twilight Breaking Dawn I and II The Hobbit 1,2 and 3 And that’s not even counting book series (Hunger Games), sequels that form a continuous story arc (Nolan’s Batman films). Let’s just hope creating multi-film crossover franchises like The Avengers doesn’t become a norm. I haven’t seen like half the related Avenger films! ---
**Author:** ![csupp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@csupp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/csupp)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pissed-off-with-the-multi-part-movie-craze/632144/20 "2012-08-21T18:33:27Z")
Batman and The Avengers are comic book adaptations. Why would the films not be structured as serials, and exploit the crossover nature of every comic book universe? Sure it’s mostly marketing, but if the plan is to adapt the biggest stories from Marvel and DC, crossovers make sense. I remember hearing grumblings walking out of the theatre after the first Kill Bill. And that was quite awhile ago. So I think this “craze” is going to be around for awhile. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pissed-off-with-the-multi-part-movie-craze/632144.md?page=2)