# I'm pitting the woman at a town hall who yelled "Heil Hitler" at a Jew.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 18, 2009, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900 "2009-08-18T23:55:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/221 "2009-08-20T23:45:49Z")

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Or Maddow misheard the quote. Extend the same benefit of the doubt to her that you would to any conservative.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/222 "2009-08-20T23:55:07Z")

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Don’t be dissing my Rachel, a willow tree with brains and the neck of a swan. Just watch it, all I’m sayin’.

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**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/223 "2009-08-20T23:56:56Z")

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Not to discourage your affections, but I don’t think you’re her “type.”

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/224 "2009-08-20T23:58:48Z")

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I could have surgery!

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/225 "2009-08-21T00:00:45Z")

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> [@Captain\_Carrot](#):
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> Or Maddow misheard the quote. Extend the same benefit of the doubt to her that you would to any conservative.

True enough. At the time, she was pounding on it so hard that it irritated me, but you’re absolutely right; it could well have been a simple error.

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**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/226 "2009-08-21T00:01:06Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I could have surgery!

Yeah, which will probably be paid for with my tax dollars under the “everything religious people hate is free” portion of ObamaramaCare

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/227 "2009-08-21T00:03:07Z")

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Cool! Hey, thanks!

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/228 "2009-08-21T01:36:00Z")

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> [@Blalron](#):
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> Where are all the liberal ambulance chasing lawyers I keep hearing about, and why aren’t they showing up here? It seems like all we have are the conservative corporate types.

_cough_

Juvenile public defender, at your service. You don’t get much more liberal than that, although there’s precious little ambulance-chasing involved.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/229 "2009-08-21T02:15:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Blalron]  
Where are all the liberal ambulance chasing lawyers I keep hearing about, and why aren’t they showing up here? It seems like all we have are the conservative corporate types.  
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> [@Bricker](#):
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> You know I was a public defender, right?

Ambulance-chasers generally aren’t liberal (although they’re obviously vocal opponents of tort reform). They’re douchebags, and exist outside the political spectrum.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/230 "2009-08-21T03:32:04Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> So, not a lie, perzackly. He’s one of a number of posters here whom I suspect were educated by Jesuits.

THAT’S why I’m fucked in debates here! I was educated by Dominicans so my default reaction involves fire, stakes, and iron maidens. Note the lack of capitalization; these weren’t bad rock bands but the real thing. I can’t find proof he was involved in the Inquisition, but his followers were.

I suppose that explains why the nuns were so nasty.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/231 "2009-08-21T04:27:39Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> THAT’S why I’m fucked in debates here! I was educated by Dominicans so my default reaction involves fire, stakes, and iron maidens. Note the lack of capitalization; these weren’t bad rock bands but the real thing. I can’t find proof he was involved in the Inquisition, but his followers were.
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> I suppose that explains why the nuns were so nasty.

Because no one expects the Spanish Inquisition!

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/232 "2009-08-21T09:08:55Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Except for such intellectual adventures as insisting that Charlie Manson is a leftist. **Which carries the faint scent of batshit**.

The guy waterboarded himself. I mean, hellooooo ? 😃

(j/k. I respect the guy a lot, even though our opinions rarely meet. Not to mention, of course, that he wrote stuff I’d give valuable bodily extremities to have written.)

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/233 "2009-08-21T10:57:25Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Brief tangent: Remember when Cronkite died? We had a bunch of reporters sitting around the table saying things like, “Boy those were the days when reporters actually fact-checked and were unbiased. You know, were actually good at their jobs.” And then we all thought to ourselves, “It’s a pity you’re in a position where there’s absolutely nothing you can do about it!”

This needs to be said more.

I was back in the States during the whole Michael Jackson’s death thing, and could not find a single so-called news channel showing anything like serious news, apart from a tiny ticker across the bottom of one of the CNN channels. Everything else was 99% “This just in - Michael Jackson is still dead” and 1% “Here is a clip of a hamster nibbling peanut in a cute fashion we found on YouTube”. FoxNews made me want to punch the television in, CNN gave me epilepsy (seriously, watch the ad breaks on CNN with the sound off sometime - it’s ), and I frankly couldn’t see the point of MSNBC at all - I think it’s just there so that the Left can feel happy that it has a FoxNews of its own to play with.

Give me the BBC any day - even when they’re shallow and trivial they’re miles ahead of the US cable news networks. For now…

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/234 "2009-08-21T11:10:18Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Well, you’re informative. Just yesterday you told me that Charlie Manson was a leftist. I’m still rolling around that nugget of information, like one of those Egyptian beetles…

Yeah, I got that one the other day too. I was suitably baffled as well.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/235 "2009-08-21T11:15:59Z")

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I like how Limbaugh’s only response to all that was, ‘Well Barney Frank’s a fag.’

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/236 "2009-08-21T12:25:06Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> I like how Limbaugh’s only response to all that was, ‘Well Barney Frank’s a fag.’

[It’s a compelling argument.](http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/80339/thumbs/s-JOHN-OLIVER-large.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/237 "2009-08-21T13:13:44Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> THAT’S why I’m fucked in debates here! I was educated by Dominicans so my default reaction involves fire, stakes, and iron maidens.

Man, you got lucky! I was educated by the Marianists. The order without a reputation for either torture or intellectual discipline. They’re the nice little nobodies of Catholicism.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/238 "2009-08-21T15:16:32Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> I like how Limbaugh’s only response to all that was, ‘Well Barney Frank’s a fag.’

What does he know about that? What does he know about gay, or straight, or anything? Has The Porcine One ever slept with anyone? Gay or straight, human or interspecies? He probably hasn’t seen pussy since the day he was born (or was he hatched).

So according to Rush, everyone is either a Socialist Democrat ( … NAZI!) or a fag?

Remind me, why do people still listen to him?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/239 "2009-08-21T15:50:31Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> What does he know about that? What does he know about gay, or straight, or anything? Has The Porcine One ever slept with anyone? Gay or straight, human or interspecies? He probably hasn’t seen pussy since the day he was born (or was he hatched).
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> So according to Rush, everyone is either a Socialist Democrat ( … NAZI!) or a fag?
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> Remind me, why do people still listen to him?

Because his particular brand of demagogery reinforces their particular worldview. Same reason anyone listens to any media commentator.

And I \*really \*don’t wish to think about Rush’s sex life, thank you.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/240 "2009-08-21T16:25:57Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> I’ve listened to her show on Air America, but never watched her.
> 
> Here’s the specific incident I was thinking of, which on further thought probably doesn’t quite fit what we’re talking about here. Maddow crowed about John McCain’s supposedly saying “I don’t have the guts to bring up William Ayers [in the debate].” \*\*She went on about how McCain was admitting he didn’t have the guts to bring the subject up… but in fact, McCain never said that. \*\*McCain actually said that OBAMA had said, “McCain doesn’t have the guts…”
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> In other words, Maddow \*\*intentionally misquoted McCain’s words \*\*and then used the misquote to ridicule McCain.
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> I’ll allow that, while this isn’t exactly honorable, it’s not in the same league as the other examples.

You make it sound as if she was squawking about the size of McCain’s balls–that _McCain_ never said he didn’t have the guts, Obama did. But IIRC, the focus wasn’t on the pendulocity of the McTesticles, it was about McCain’s repeated use of the “I’m-not-bringing-this-up” method of bringing things up. Again, this is only an IIRC, and we could be thinking of two different issues–but if not, then your really talking about virtual rage.

ETA: Rush was detained for coming back from Dominica with Viagra [prescribed to someone else](http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/27/national/main1753947.shtml).

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