# I'm pitting the woman at a town hall who yelled "Heil Hitler" at a Jew.

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**Created:** [August 18, 2009, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900 "2009-08-18T23:55:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/61 "2009-08-19T02:44:30Z")

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Cause he’s a Muslim and they’re sworn enemies. Plus, you know, he’s Obama.

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**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/62 "2009-08-19T02:47:30Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Why should Jews be “against Obama?”

Why should anyone anything?

The fact that she said that further illustrates that she gets her motivation from talking points filtered down through talking heads. One must be against Obama, so one must be against healthcare.

The topic dejour could be Free Handjobs for Veterans and there’d still be the same amount of feigned outrage and racists with guns and heil hitlers.

(“Free handjobs? That’s socialism! It’ll destroy the for-profit handjob industry!”)

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/63 "2009-08-19T02:48:47Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Why should Jews be “against Obama?”

You don’t remember all that Joe the Plumber guff about how electing Obama would mean the destruction of Israel?

I’m not entirely sure this pitting is justified. Presumably crazy IDF lady didn’t know the guy was a Jew, and she was suggesting that he was a Nazi because he’s pro-UHC (:rolleyes:), so it’s not like she was actually, uh, heiling.

Okay, I take that back, because she’s fucking stupid- but probably not a Nazi.

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/64 "2009-08-19T02:51:06Z")

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> [@wierdaaron](#):
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> It’s like a holocaust for high prices!
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> Let Gunter’s Mattress Haus be your “final solution” for mattress buying!

:D:p I’m dyin’ over here!  
(I’m so going to hell in a handbasket. Except Jews don’t have hell. So I don’t know where I’m going, but I guess I’ll be in a handbasket regardless.)

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**Author:** ![Amulet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4491bb/32.png) [@Amulet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amulet)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/65 "2009-08-19T02:54:45Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> In the other thread, she was identified as a Republican douche. Is there evidence of the party affiliation of the aforesaid Nazi douche?

She said [she is a Republican.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcRr5xA-K80)

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/66 "2009-08-19T02:57:15Z")

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> [@Amulet](#):
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> She said [she is a Republican.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcRr5xA-K80)

The second part of that clip is great. “My husband doesn’t have healthcare, so it’s not a ‘natural born right’”.

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**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/67 "2009-08-19T02:58:00Z")

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Tact, thy name is Pamela Pilger.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/68 "2009-08-19T02:59:13Z")

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Just watched the video. What a vile woman that was and how emblematic of the political right these days. The Israeli guy was making some good points, and at least trying to engage in some kind of substantive discussion, but this bitch had no interest in or comprehension of any of it. What was with the mock crying? what a sociopathic cunt. That guy had more self control than I do. I wanted to punch her through my computer screen.

By the way. How ABOUT the fact that Israel has nationalized health care? Obama should use that constantly. Force these fuckwads to either trash Israel and call it socialist, or admit they’ve been full of shit all along.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/69 "2009-08-19T03:01:27Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> You don’t remember all that Joe the Plumber guff about how electing Obama would mean the destruction of Israel?
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> I’m not entirely sure this pitting is justified. Presumably crazy IDF lady didn’t know the guy was a Jew, and she was suggesting that he was a Nazi because he’s pro-UHC (:rolleyes:), so it’s not like she was actually, uh, heiling.
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> Okay, I take that back, because she’s fucking stupid- but probably not a Nazi.

I pretty much assumed that she was trying to call HIM a Nazi, which is just as stupid and offensive in any case.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/70 "2009-08-19T03:06:40Z")

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Hmmmm. between her, and the gun toters and the other disruptors, maybe they are TRYING to get arrested?

“Help! I’m being oppressed! See the injustice inherent in the system!”

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**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/71 "2009-08-19T03:07:08Z")

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I don’t condone violence, except when it’s awesome, but I seriously think that man could have punched her right in the face and have been fully justified. Even if taken to court, temporary insanity would suffice.

The fact that he stayed otherwise collected is pretty admirable.

The problem is, he was trying to use facts and logic, which are useless against someone who just hates Obama on principal.

I like how, in the second video (shot earlier), she says “these people who’ve been in office so long, and just want more political power” regarding the current admin. Now, who does that sound like? An administration full of political lifers who want nothing but to expand their power. Hmm…

I thought Obama’s problem was that he has no experience.

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**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/72 "2009-08-19T03:11:18Z")

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[http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/ResignEmmanuel/signatures-542.html](http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/ResignEmmanuel/signatures-542.html)

Petition: “Rahm Emanuel Must Resign!”

27080: **Pamela Pilger** “Who, but the mafia would send a dead fish to anybody. Rahm Emanuel is an embarassment to his namesake and America.”

(The dead fish incident had nothing to do with the subject of the petition)

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/73 "2009-08-19T03:30:54Z")

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Is that the Pamela Pilger who is a doctor in Cincinnati? There’s only one photo online that I could find, and it’s too small to tell.

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**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/74 "2009-08-19T04:03:10Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Is that the Pamela Pilger who is a doctor in Cincinnati? There’s only one photo online that I could find, and it’s too small to tell.

Yeah, I looked into that. The Pamela Pilger who is a doctor from Ohio donated $2300 to the Obama campaign, so I’m thinking… no.

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**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/75 "2009-08-19T04:05:54Z")

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> [@wierdaaron](#):
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> Yeah, I looked into that. The Pamela Pilger who is a doctor from Ohio donated $2300 to the Obama campaign, so I’m thinking… no.

She’s probably sitting at her desk sobbing into to her hands right now, though. What bad luck, to share your name with the nut in the video.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/76 "2009-08-19T04:15:08Z")

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The intarweb does provide:

> **[Meet Pamela Pilger, the Crazy Lady Who Yelled 'Heil Hitler' at a Jewish...](https://www.gawker.com/5340436/meet-pamela-pilger-the-crazy-lady-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jewish-supporter-of-health-care-reform)**
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> Have you seen the insane video of a woman yelling "Heil Hitler" at an Israeli-Jew who supports health care reform at a recent town hall meeting in Vegas? Well, her name is Pam Pilger. She's on Facebook.

I do not condone harassing her.

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**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/77 "2009-08-19T04:22:10Z")

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Yeah, I got her phone number too, but didn’t want to post it. I think that’s a pretty dirty thing to do, and will only make things worse.

If a bunch of internet jerkwads started spamming my phone for something I’d said or done, I’d feel pretty emboldened about whatever I did, not embarrassed. Unless I touched a kid or something, then I’d need to evaluate my life.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/78 "2009-08-19T04:50:11Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Even President Obama would have less trouble today had his parents named him Bernard.

Or Ernest. Let’s not forget about the importance of being Ernest.

🙂

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/79 "2009-08-19T04:51:45Z")

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> [@wierdaaron](#):
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> Yeah, I got her phone number too, but didn’t want to post it.

Good thinking. It definitely would have earned you a mod warning.

Welcome to the SDMB, by the way. Hope you enjoy your time here. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/80 "2009-08-19T04:54:18Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Good thinking. It definitely would have earned you a mod warning.
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> Welcome to the SDMB, by the way. Hope you enjoy your time here. 🙂

Hmm… my link includes her phone number. If a mod wants to break my link, feel free.

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