# I'm pitting the woman at a town hall who yelled "Heil Hitler" at a Jew. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 18, 2009, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900 "2009-08-18T23:55:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/141 "2009-08-19T20:55:50Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Like every other run of the mill potato… > … he’s a common 'tater. So you can tell which one’s Gretchen Carlson because she’s stamped “Idaho”? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/142 "2009-08-19T21:03:58Z")
Can we get back to yelling “heil Hitler” at the Jews, please? ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/143 "2009-08-19T21:05:08Z")
“The number of people who clamor about death panels may be small…” I should have said the number of people who clamor about it insanely at town hall meetings. Edit: Sorry. Heil Hitler! ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/144 "2009-08-19T21:20:44Z")
If it’s such a fringe, then why are the whackjobs always backed up by the full throated cheering of the rest of the room when they call Obama Hitler or say he was born in Kenya? The most prominent deather was the Republican Candidate for Vice President of the United States less than a year ago. Is she fringe or is she mainstream. I have noticed that Fox News tends not to show the more demented clips from the Town Hall screamers. last night they were showing clips from the Barney Frank meeting where a crazy woman with a sign depicting Obama with a Hitler mustache asked Frank why he supported “nazi policies.” They were trying to portray the meeting as Frank confronting an angry public, but they very carefully did not show the Hitler lady, nor did they show a single clip of Barney Frank talking at all. If the answers to the questions are so important, then why is Fox News so uninterested in showing the answers? Fox News really has just gone completely into the wingnut tank lately. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/145 "2009-08-19T21:26:29Z")
I believe that about 30% of each party–about 15% of the voting population–is just wholly unreasonable. They’re racists, or astrologists, or just ordinary crazy. So I don’t think it means much to document cases of political insanity. I could be persuaded that because of various factors, at this moment in political history, there are marginally more crazies on the right. But so what? Why is that some important conclusion? To me, the more interesting question is whether and how the party responds to its insane third. This is a slippery question to answer, because the Republicans have no leader. If we pick Palin or Limbaugh, we can clearly show that the party is arguing about health care in complete bad faith. So my question is this: who do Republicans hold out as the honest debater on their side? Which prominent member of the party leadership is the one debating in good faith? ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/146 "2009-08-19T21:26:52Z")
I hate to bring in another element, but people who declaim that these wackos do not represent their party are very much like Christians (or other religious folk) who loudly deny that wacky fundamentalists do not represent the Awesomeness that is their religion. Like it or not, folks, YES THEY DO. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/147 "2009-08-19T21:30:48Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I don’t like to play the cite game with what is clearly a complaint about tone, not actual words… but I’m going to want to have something I can look at, some transcript of video clip, that shows the sort of thing you’re complaining about. > [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Dude, don’t even go there with me. Watch Fox News tonight. Or hell, just watch _The Daily Show_. All the episodes are readily available online, and the coverage of the media coverage of the town halls has been going on for the last week or so. They’ve happily documented the crazy for you already. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/148 "2009-08-19T21:49:18Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Haha, so it’s sly to call someone a douche. Sweet. Sometimes less is more. _Shall I compare thee to a Summer’s Eve? Thou art more douchey and disposable…_ ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/149 "2009-08-19T21:58:39Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Or hell, just watch _The Daily Show_. All the episodes are readily available online, and the coverage of the media coverage of the town halls has been going on for the last week or so. They’ve happily documented the crazy for you already. Also highly recommended, although I can’t recall which show it was: a segment of clips showing Glenn Beck doing a full 180 on the state of American health care. Railing angrily over his perceived mistreatment in a system that he felt was designed to cycle patients in and out the door as quickly as possible, and then a few months later (coinciding with his move from CNN to Fox News) insisting that we \*already \*have the best health care system in the world, and that it merely needs to be preserved as-is. Whoever researches and and produces those video montages for TDS deserves a Nobel Prize. ---
**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/150 "2009-08-19T21:59:05Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Can one of those idiots kindly explain to me how a government health care option is akin to Hitler exterminating Jews. I think it’s because Hitler had (or wanted to develop) a socialized system of health care (pretty sure it wasn’t universal, though!). My husband and I have been having fun with this: You know what else Hitler had? Roads! Nazi roads! DOWN WITH THE NAZI ROADS! We’re bored. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/151 "2009-08-19T22:09:42Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Arr! You know who I’m talking to! Voldemort? It’s okay, he’s dead, you can say his name. Vol-de-mort. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/152 "2009-08-19T22:56:48Z")
> [@C3](#): > > I think it’s because Hitler had (or wanted to develop) a socialized system of health care (pretty sure it wasn’t universal, though!). Germany has had UHC for something like 126 years, going back to the Health Insurance Bill of 1883 under Otto von Bismarck. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/153 "2009-08-19T23:10:04Z")
> [@Green\_Bean](#): > > (I’m so going to hell in a handbasket. Except Jews don’t have hell. So I don’t know where I’m going, but I guess I’ll be in a handbasket regardless.) You’re going to [Gehennom](http://www.chabad.org/multimedia/media_cdo/aid/455173/jewish/Angels-Heaven-and-Hell.htm) in a handbasket. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/154 "2009-08-19T23:41:01Z")
> [@C3](#): > > I think it’s because Hitler had (or wanted to develop) a socialized system of health care (pretty sure it wasn’t universal, though!). My husband and I have been having fun with this: You know what else Hitler had? Roads! Nazi roads! DOWN WITH THE NAZI ROADS! We’re bored. Not only that, but the government controlled traffic with lights telling people when they could drive their own cars and when they had to stop. ---
**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/155 "2009-08-19T23:54:51Z")
In Nazi Germany, Hitler had a program where water was sent into peoples’ homes very inexpensively via a series of tubes (cough) connecting every home to one “government approved” water source. ---
**Author:** ![nameless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/779978/32.png) [@nameless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nameless)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/156 "2009-08-20T00:04:51Z")
> [@C3](#): > > I think it’s because Hitler had (or wanted to develop) a socialized system of health care (pretty sure it wasn’t universal, though!). My husband and I have been having fun with this: You know what else Hitler had? Roads! Nazi roads! DOWN WITH THE NAZI ROADS! We’re bored. My new favorite blog: [Obama is literally Hitler.](http://obamaisliterallyhitler.tumblr.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/157 "2009-08-20T00:07:07Z")
Of course Republicans are afraid we’ll become Nazis. Nazis killed the mentally retarded. If we go down that road, there will be no Republicans left. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/158 "2009-08-20T00:07:27Z")
Bill ORlly just played the video of the woman asking Barney Frank about his nazi policy, and then immediately showed a later question where someone asked some nonsense question about Iraq that Frank also made a joke about. So Billo says something to the tune of “Frank likes to make jokes about serious questions,” and then brings Dick Morris on to talk about how people are furious over healthcare reform. Then, Bill brought out another guest, Lucifer, the Morning Star, and spent 9 minutes fellating him. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/159 "2009-08-20T00:10:54Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > I was going to post this to Scylla in the other thread, but I guess I’ll put it in here. > > Here’s a legitimate question. Conservatives on this board are quick to say how we can’t let one bad apple spoil the whole bunch, that these nuts going off at town halls are isolated pockets of idiocy. > > What I wonder is, how many of these stories have to come out before you start to believe that this is a widespread problem, and that intelligent and thoughtful conservatism is a dying breed? For the conservatives on this board–do you think that people like you are a minority in your party? Or are you the majority, and just not getting the media coverage that these loudmouthed racist assholes do? If people like you are the majority, do you appreciate the tactics of the vocal minority (seeing as they seem to be working), or do you loathe the fact that the argument is not being won by persuasive debate but rather fearmongering soundbites with a side of screaming gibberish? If you’re the minority, what are your feelings about the hijacking of your party by these knuckledragging cretins? Because the rational and sane conservatives asked questions Barney Frank probably answered without batting an eye. It’s only because Barney Frank called someone an idiot that it made news. ---
**Author:** ![C3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/c3/32/3108_2.png) [@C3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C3)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900/160 "2009-08-20T00:17:02Z")
> [@nameless](#): > > My new favorite blog: [Obama is literally Hitler.](http://obamaisliterallyhitler.tumblr.com/) OMG. That’s the funniest thing I’ve seen in ages. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-the-woman-at-a-town-hall-who-yelled-heil-hitler-at-a-jew/506900.md?page=9)