# I'm pitting whoever is behind the phone calls attempting to suppress the Dem vote in Wisconsin. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 5, 2012, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-whoever-is-behind-the-phone-calls-attempting-to-suppress-the-dem-vote-in-wisconsin/624160 "2012-06-05T15:18:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![picker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/picker/32/13969_2.png) [@picker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picker)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-whoever-is-behind-the-phone-calls-attempting-to-suppress-the-dem-vote-in-wisconsin/624160/41 "2012-06-05T16:46:47Z")
Oh was that me cavorting among the palm trees that Faux News was showing? You’re a fucking idiot. Go back to your bunker and cry yourself to sleep while you slowly masturbate to a picture of Ailes, you ignorant troglodyte. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-whoever-is-behind-the-phone-calls-attempting-to-suppress-the-dem-vote-in-wisconsin/624160/42 "2012-06-05T16:52:02Z")
> [@Sicks\_Ate](#): > > If the situation were reversed, and the robocalls were directed at Republican voters with the same message, this would be the general response from the Dope: > > “Whatever, I don’t really see the big deal. If those stupid fucker Republitards can’t figure out that it’s not true, then they don’t deserve to vote anyway.” Well, thanks for telling me how I would respond to your hypothetical, but in my case you are 100% wrong. I hate robocalls, no matter who is doing them. It is a big deal no matter who is doing them. I do not use the term “Republitards”, and condemn anyone who does. Sorry to not fit your stereotype. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-whoever-is-behind-the-phone-calls-attempting-to-suppress-the-dem-vote-in-wisconsin/624160/43 "2012-06-05T16:53:04Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > So you were one of those cocksuckers at the statehouse? Every freakin’ news report I saw about you miserable clowns showed abominable behavior at every turn. Yeah, **picker** , you and your abominable _sign-holding_! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-whoever-is-behind-the-phone-calls-attempting-to-suppress-the-dem-vote-in-wisconsin/624160/44 "2012-06-05T16:56:33Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > So you were one of those cocksuckers at the statehouse? … Hey! Some of my best friends are cocksuckers! An oral compulsion can be a very endearing characteristic. ---
**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-whoever-is-behind-the-phone-calls-attempting-to-suppress-the-dem-vote-in-wisconsin/624160/45 "2012-06-05T16:57:02Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > :dubious: Wow, you’ve got to go back to a 40-year-old crime of leaving the scene of an accident and a 20-year-old Congressional reprimand for fixing parking tickets in order to come up with examples of Democratic moral turpitude? Even I know of more recent examples than those, and I’m a Democrat myself. Oh, please, their entire careers reeked of corruption from beginning to end. They weren’t servants of the people or noble crusaders for justice, they were power mongers, pure and simple. And yes, you’re quite right, there are plenty of examples of Democratic corruption: stealing a senate seat for Al Franken, the Solyndra scandal, the Fast and Furious scandal, Holder’s refusal to prosecute the New Black Panthers for voter intimidation, the ethanol boondoggle … Good God, the list goes on and on. The Democrats decrying Republican corruption is like a streetwalker complaining about what sluts all the other whores are. The lack of self awareness is just mind boggling. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-whoever-is-behind-the-phone-calls-attempting-to-suppress-the-dem-vote-in-wisconsin/624160/46 "2012-06-05T16:57:06Z")
> [@Hal\_Briston](#): > > Yeah, **picker** , you and your abominable _sign-holding_! And the chanting. AND THE SINGING! Those protesters were the spawn of Satan, I tell you! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-whoever-is-behind-the-phone-calls-attempting-to-suppress-the-dem-vote-in-wisconsin/624160/47 "2012-06-05T16:58:32Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > So you were one of those cocksuckers at the statehouse? Every freakin’ news report I saw about you miserable clowns showed abominable behavior at every turn. Don’t give me that “I’m an eyewitness” crap, bub, you’re hardly an impartial, objective witness. Translation: I know what I know, so don’t confuse me with factual first hand information. Blah blah, spew spew. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-whoever-is-behind-the-phone-calls-attempting-to-suppress-the-dem-vote-in-wisconsin/624160/48 "2012-06-05T16:58:43Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > Oh, please, their entire careers reeked of corruption from beginning to end. They weren’t servants of the people or noble crusaders for justice, they were power mongers, pure and simple. And yes, you’re quite right, there are plenty of examples of Democratic corruption: stealing a senate seat for Al Franken, the Solyndra scandal, the Fast and Furious scandal, Holder’s refusal to prosecute the New Black Panthers for voter intimidation, the ethanol boondoggle … Good God, the list goes on and on. The Democrats decrying Republican corruption is like a streetwalker complaining about what sluts all the other whores are. The lack of self awareness is just mind boggling. wow, someone certainly swallowed a Republican talking point memo and regurgitated it right back up. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-whoever-is-behind-the-phone-calls-attempting-to-suppress-the-dem-vote-in-wisconsin/624160/49 "2012-06-05T17:00:08Z")
> [@LonesomePolecat](#): > > And yes, you’re quite right, there are plenty of examples of Democratic corruption: stealing a senate seat for Al Franken, You really don’t like democracy do you? Just because someone got the most votes, you think that should not count, huh? ---
**Author:** ![picker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/picker/32/13969_2.png) [@picker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picker)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-whoever-is-behind-the-phone-calls-attempting-to-suppress-the-dem-vote-in-wisconsin/624160/50 "2012-06-05T17:00:13Z")
> [@Hal\_Briston](#): > > Yeah, **picker** , you and your abominable _sign-holding_! Yeah, I was so outraged that the Governor and Assembly took $400/mo out of my wife’s paycheck that I wrote a strongly worded message. 😃 FTR, she’s a Union Thug. She’s the state DNR liaison to FEMA for the Flood Insurance Program, and has consistently fought for the adoption of accurate maps for insurance purposes. Strangely, her greatest victories have resulted in significant fiscal benefits and increased coverage in three counties - GOP strongholds each - where local and municipal votes to reject modern maps done at taxpayer expense have resulted in massive loss of property and value after scientifically predicted flooding did, in fact, happen. see (Lake Delton) also (Science, it works, bitches) ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-whoever-is-behind-the-phone-calls-attempting-to-suppress-the-dem-vote-in-wisconsin/624160/51 "2012-06-05T17:02:31Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > This is just stupid. Not the OP, which I agree with, but, this: > I’m a bit of a lazy voter, but if anybody tells me NOT to vote, you can be damn well sure I am going to show up to the polls. That’s why I am saying it’s stupid. I’m not supporting the practice, but to be accurate they are not telling you not to vote, they are saying ‘you don’t need to vote’, which is technically true. Though saying ‘your job is done’ is technically a lie. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-whoever-is-behind-the-phone-calls-attempting-to-suppress-the-dem-vote-in-wisconsin/624160/52 "2012-06-05T17:04:56Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > I’m not supporting the practice, but to be accurate they are not telling you not to vote, they are saying ‘you don’t need to vote’, which is technically true. Though saying ‘your job is done’ is technically a lie. The point is that the calls are obviously intended to mislead people into believing that their vote is not needed and won’t make a difference. ---
**Author:** ![picker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/picker/32/13969_2.png) [@picker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picker)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-whoever-is-behind-the-phone-calls-attempting-to-suppress-the-dem-vote-in-wisconsin/624160/53 "2012-06-05T17:06:29Z")
Hey, that’s a remarkably canny bit of disassemblage from KB. Soon we might actually see some critical thinking. nah, probably not. ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-whoever-is-behind-the-phone-calls-attempting-to-suppress-the-dem-vote-in-wisconsin/624160/54 "2012-06-05T17:06:46Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > The point is that the calls are obviously intended to mislead people into believing that their vote is not needed and won’t make a difference. I certainly know that, and as stated I don’t support it. ---
**Author:** ![picker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/picker/32/13969_2.png) [@picker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picker)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-whoever-is-behind-the-phone-calls-attempting-to-suppress-the-dem-vote-in-wisconsin/624160/55 "2012-06-05T17:08:18Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > I certainly know that, and as stated I don’t support it. I apologize for my snark, then. Please consider it redirected at other reality-challenged posters herein. Carry on. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-whoever-is-behind-the-phone-calls-attempting-to-suppress-the-dem-vote-in-wisconsin/624160/56 "2012-06-05T17:11:57Z")
I think **kanicbird** was responding to my snark. I also apologize. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-whoever-is-behind-the-phone-calls-attempting-to-suppress-the-dem-vote-in-wisconsin/624160/57 "2012-06-05T17:13:41Z")
I also apologize. I don’t know why, exactly. Don’t want to be left out, maybe. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-whoever-is-behind-the-phone-calls-attempting-to-suppress-the-dem-vote-in-wisconsin/624160/58 "2012-06-05T17:22:49Z")
**LonesomePolecat** , since your only defense of the voter supression is to make vile accusations against Democrats, I assume that you have no defense for it. Instead of trying to distract us by slinging mud at everyone else, why don’t you address the issue at hand? ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-whoever-is-behind-the-phone-calls-attempting-to-suppress-the-dem-vote-in-wisconsin/624160/59 "2012-06-05T17:28:34Z")
> [@Sicks\_Ate](#): > > If the situation were reversed, and the robocalls were directed at Republican voters with the same message, this would be the general response from the Dope: > > “Whatever, I don’t really see the big deal. If those stupid fucker Republitards can’t figure out that it’s not true, then they don’t deserve to vote anyway.” Wow, Imaginary Me sounds like an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-whoever-is-behind-the-phone-calls-attempting-to-suppress-the-dem-vote-in-wisconsin/624160/60 "2012-06-05T17:40:03Z")
Wisconsin Senator Lena Taylor has reported two types of calls to Wisconsin’s General Accountability Board. [http://wispolitics.com/1006/060521kennedy.pdf](http://wispolitics.com/1006/060521kennedy.pdf) (It’s a PDF. Sorry.) > [@](#): > > Notably,two blatantly false tactics have been employed by groups or individuals that seemingly would support Governor Walker’s campaign. One group or individual is informing citizens, who in the exercise of their constitutional rights signed a recall petition, that they need not vote today as they have already accomplished their work. A second group or individual, calling from telephone number 608-257-8029, has indicated to citizens that the recall election is on Wednesday. Both of these assertions are blatantly false and constitute the commission of an election-related crime. So we now have a number, for similar calls, if not for the calls I mentioned in the OP. And here’s something interesting. In a post from back in February, someone identified that number as a robocaller for Scott Walker. [608-257-8029 / 6082578029](http://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-608-257-8029) Another post from June 2nd, on another site, identifies the number as belonging to the Republican Party and describes a rude phone call made from it. > **[Private Site](https://maplecanopy.wordpress.com/2012/06/02/wigop-not-exactly-the-cream-of-the-crop)** Here’s another claiming to have received a call from the Republican Party from that number. > **[Google Search](http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:xosew2Gl_oEJ:de-de.facebook.com%2Fchannel3000%3Fv%3Dfeed%26story_fbid%3D176593167128%26ref%3Dmf%2B608-257-8029%2Bwalker&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)** There’s more if you want to Google it. > **[608-257-8029 Walker - Google Search](http://www.google.com/search?q=608-257-8029%2BWalker)** [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-whoever-is-behind-the-phone-calls-attempting-to-suppress-the-dem-vote-in-wisconsin/624160.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pitting-whoever-is-behind-the-phone-calls-attempting-to-suppress-the-dem-vote-in-wisconsin/624160.md?page=4)