# I'm pretty sure Shake n' Bake fucked up their Canadian baking directions **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 5, 2016, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pretty-sure-shake-n-bake-fucked-up-their-canadian-baking-directions/765137 "2016-09-05T22:19:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pretty-sure-shake-n-bake-fucked-up-their-canadian-baking-directions/765137/1 "2016-09-05T22:19:02Z")
For whatever reason, I got a hankering for Shake n’ Bake chicken. Don’t judge! The box says: “Bake boneless chicken 20 to 25 min. and bone-in chicken 40 to 45 min. or until done (170F).” 170F? No. I’m thinking they meant 170C. Who the hell bakes chicken at 170F? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pretty-sure-shake-n-bake-fucked-up-their-canadian-baking-directions/765137/2 "2016-09-05T22:24:37Z")
I don’t have my conversion chart handy, but isn’t 170 Celcius like a Thousand degrees Farenheit? I think they’re trying to cover themselves from a food safety standpoint. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pretty-sure-shake-n-bake-fucked-up-their-canadian-baking-directions/765137/3 "2016-09-05T22:26:57Z")
No! Google the damned thing. 170 F is 77 C. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pretty-sure-shake-n-bake-fucked-up-their-canadian-baking-directions/765137/4 "2016-09-05T22:34:06Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I don’t have my conversion chart handy, but isn’t 170 Celcius like a Thousand degrees Farenheit? I think they’re trying to cover themselves from a food safety standpoint. > > > [@Leaffan](#): > > > > No! Google the damned thing. 170 F is 77 C. You are talking about two different things: 170’F = 77’C 170’C = 338’F Google says to cook chicken at 350’F, which is pretty close to 338’F. You want an internal temp. of 165’F, and I imagine you could get that either way just by controlling cooking time (slightly longer at 338’F). ETA: Yes, it appears to be a typo on the package, F for C. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pretty-sure-shake-n-bake-fucked-up-their-canadian-baking-directions/765137/5 "2016-09-05T22:37:12Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > ETA: Yes, it appears to be a typo on the package, F for C. Either that or it mean to cook to an internal temperature of 170F? ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pretty-sure-shake-n-bake-fucked-up-their-canadian-baking-directions/765137/6 "2016-09-05T22:38:32Z")
Second thought: the (170F) could mean bake it until a meat thermometer indicates an internal temperature of 170’F. That seems less likely than the typo theory, though. ETA: Ninja’d! I think that’s less likely, though, because it’s unlikely that the box wouldn’t indicate a setting for the oven. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pretty-sure-shake-n-bake-fucked-up-their-canadian-baking-directions/765137/7 "2016-09-05T22:40:28Z")
I wonder how many people have died so far, from e coli, due to Shake n’ Bake’s ridiculous directions? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pretty-sure-shake-n-bake-fucked-up-their-canadian-baking-directions/765137/8 "2016-09-05T22:43:48Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > Either that or it mean to cook to an internal temperature of 170F? Ooo. I never thought of that. But what I typed is precisely what’s on the box. No mention of internal temperatures. I have two boxes (different recipes) and they’re both incorrect. ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pretty-sure-shake-n-bake-fucked-up-their-canadian-baking-directions/765137/9 "2016-09-05T22:49:55Z")
I Googled a picture of the package with US instructions. It gives a preheat temp. of 375’F, and different internal temperature doneness times for different meats. The chicken looks to be 165’F. If the Canadian government recommends a higher temp., I would expect to see that on the Canadian box. I’m not sure why the confusion, because these instructions are very clear that the higher temp. is the preheat/bake at temperature, and the lower one is the internal temp. for doneness. Are Canadian products never labeled in Fahrenheit? ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pretty-sure-shake-n-bake-fucked-up-their-canadian-baking-directions/765137/10 "2016-09-05T22:50:43Z")
**I’m pretty sure Shake n’ Bake fucked up their Canadian baking directions** How does one normally bake a Candaian? ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pretty-sure-shake-n-bake-fucked-up-their-canadian-baking-directions/765137/11 "2016-09-05T22:55:27Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > Are Canadian products never labeled in Fahrenheit? I’ve never seen cooking temperatures given in Celcius before in Canada. That’s why I wondered if they meant internal temperatures, but you’re right, it doesn’t make a lot of sense that they wouldn’t mention an oven temperature at all (and I’d bet that most people making Shake 'n Bake wouldn’t be using a meat thermometer for it) ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pretty-sure-shake-n-bake-fucked-up-their-canadian-baking-directions/765137/12 "2016-09-05T22:58:38Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > I Googled a picture of the package with US instructions. It gives a preheat temp. of 375’F, and different internal temperature doneness times for different meats. The chicken looks to be 165’F. If the Canadian government recommends a higher temp., I would expect to see that on the Canadian box. > > I’m not sure why the confusion, because these instructions are very clear that the higher temp. is the preheat/bake at temperature, and the lower one is the internal temp. for doneness. > > Are Canadian products never labeled in Fahrenheit? We mostly bake in Fahrenheit here, a carry over from the good old days. 🙂 There is no pre-heat temperature on the box. What I typed is precisely what the box says. What’s a Candaian? ---
**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pretty-sure-shake-n-bake-fucked-up-their-canadian-baking-directions/765137/13 "2016-09-05T23:05:40Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > We mostly bake in Fahrenheit here, a carry over from the good old days. 🙂 > > There is no pre-heat temperature on the box. What I typed is precisely what the box says. > What’s a Candaian? Did I type Candaian somewhere? I blame cats trying to self-pet on my hands while I type. ---
**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pretty-sure-shake-n-bake-fucked-up-their-canadian-baking-directions/765137/14 "2016-09-05T23:06:01Z")
Not the best instructions but it pretty unambiguously means bake to an internal temp of 170F. 170F is the parenthetical clarification of what done means. ---
**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pretty-sure-shake-n-bake-fucked-up-their-canadian-baking-directions/765137/15 "2016-09-05T23:12:41Z")
> [@Shalmanese](#): > > Not the best instructions but it pretty unambiguously means bake to an internal temp of 170F. 170F is the parenthetical clarification of what done means. This. Why the oven temp isn’t listed I don’t know, but the (170) is obviously the internal temp of the done chicken. ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pretty-sure-shake-n-bake-fucked-up-their-canadian-baking-directions/765137/16 "2016-09-05T23:14:11Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > Did I type Candaian somewhere? I blame cats trying to self-pet on my hands while I type. Nah, it was **snfaulkner**. Too bad, it was a pretty good line. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pretty-sure-shake-n-bake-fucked-up-their-canadian-baking-directions/765137/17 "2016-09-05T23:14:52Z")
From the [Kraft website](http://www.kraftrecipes.com/recipes/shake-n-bake-honey-drummies-56061.aspx) ALL the Shake and Bake recipes that use chicken specify a baking temp of 400 degrees F. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pretty-sure-shake-n-bake-fucked-up-their-canadian-baking-directions/765137/18 "2016-09-05T23:25:19Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > Nah, it was **snfaulkner**. Too bad, it was a pretty good line. 😛 I blame interference from having to do actual work at my job before I could proof read and hit post. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pretty-sure-shake-n-bake-fucked-up-their-canadian-baking-directions/765137/19 "2016-09-05T23:33:47Z")
> [@Rysto](#): > > Either that or it mean to cook to an internal temperature of 170F? This clearly is what it means to me. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2016, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pretty-sure-shake-n-bake-fucked-up-their-canadian-baking-directions/765137/20 "2016-09-05T23:49:13Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > This clearly is what it means to me. In retrospect, I agree. The thing is that no other recipes on the planet do this; they always give a baking temperature. Always. Ah well, I baked at 450F for 45 minutes and didn’t die. ETA: And it wasn’t as good as I thought it was going to be. Don’t go out of your way. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-pretty-sure-shake-n-bake-fucked-up-their-canadian-baking-directions/765137.md?page=2)