# I'm probably the last person to discover Evanescence... **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 31, 2004, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-probably-the-last-person-to-discover-evanescence/226925 "2004-01-31T16:45:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ouisey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/9fc29f/32.png) [@ouisey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouisey)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2004, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-probably-the-last-person-to-discover-evanescence/226925/41 "2004-02-03T16:11:44Z")
> [@Evil Death](#): > > “Tell me, Jesus, are you angry? > One more sheep has just gone astray > A hardening of hearts, turning to stone > Wandering off so far from home” > > Also sounds pretty Christian - but it’s not from a Christian Rock band. > > (Half a point for anyone who can name the artist, track and album without Googling.) Of course, when lyrics are taken in context with the rest of the song, they can prove to be “Christian” or “Not Christian”. I wouldn’t try to prove that King Missile is (was?) a Christian band by quoting the lyrics from “Jesus Was Way Cool”. Evanescence may not be a Christian band per se, but have a strong Christian influence as evidenced in their lyrics, and past history. ---
**Author:** ![paulberserker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@paulberserker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/paulberserker)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2004, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-probably-the-last-person-to-discover-evanescence/226925/42 "2004-02-03T16:11:55Z")
Whats the Linkin Park song that was different to the rest that made them a hit? I’ve heard at least 10 of their songs, and they all follow the 'quiet/some dude rapping (or his approximation of) then ‘Chester Bennington’ 😃 /shouting a chorus, with lyrics that appear to have been written by a bullied twelve year old who cant get any girls to notice him. But hey, keep kicking those 2 chord/sampled drum songs boys, they must be worth a fair bob or two by now eh? I may check out Lacuna coil & nightwish, ive not heard them. but i’m not holding my breath. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2004, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-probably-the-last-person-to-discover-evanescence/226925/43 "2004-02-03T19:06:24Z")
> [@Tengu](#): > > I’m bitching about an attitude, that a lot of non-mainstream bands (who range from great, to dismal, just like more mainstream bands) - and especially their fans - have. The attitude of automatic goodness of more obscure bands, and automatic crappiness of mainstream bands. > > Keeping with my example: From what I’ve seen of Linkin Park in interviews and live performances, they don’t present themselves as (neccessarily) better than other bands - those that made it big, or those that didn’t - either in their own genre or others. They’re just a bunch of guys who got lucky, and they’re still really just a bunch of fanboys, making a buttload of money doing something they like to do. > > But even a lot of bands who do present this attitude make good music that I enjoy. I don’t let their (or their fans’) attitude prevent me from enjoying their music. I must applaud you for this post. This is something I run into all the time on a couple of the Yahoo Groups I’m on. The basic attitude there seems to be, “If it’s on the radio, it sucks. Period.” Has there ever been a more ignorant thought process in the history of civilization? :rolleyes: I don’t listen to the radio all that much. Most of the stuff that gets airplay nowadays just doesn’t do anything for me. But every once and a while, I’ll hear something that just blows me away. For example, a few months ago I heard the song _Closure_ by Chevelle on the radio. That song came to me **exactly** when I needed it. If I automatically dismissed everything on the radio just because it’s on the radio, then I never would have heard that song. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2004, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-probably-the-last-person-to-discover-evanescence/226925/44 "2004-02-03T23:25:41Z")
> [@Lord Ashtar](#): > > I must applaud you for this post. This is something I run into all the time on a couple of the Yahoo Groups I’m on. The basic attitude there seems to be, “If it’s on the radio, it sucks. Period.” Has there ever been a more ignorant thought process in the history of civilization? I wouldn’t say that if it gets airplay it sucks. I _will_ say that the number of half-decent songs that made the UK Top 20 singles chart in the last decade can be counted on my fingers. Overhyped shit and the lowest common denominator strike again - not to mention that Westlife only got their record string of consecutive number 1 hits because their management were running around buying up thousands of copies. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-probably-the-last-person-to-discover-evanescence/226925/45 "2004-02-06T21:06:07Z")
Old fart checking in… I like Linkin Park-- great pop tunes. Their music hasn’t changed my life, but that’s not what I’m looking for. I just like listen to music that sounds good. Yeah, they have a formula and it’ll get old eventually, but it works on the 2 CDs of theirs that I have. After reading this thread, I went to Amazon to check out Nightwish. Yikes!! Talk about songs that all sound the same. Maybe I’m missing something… As for Evanescence, they sound pretty good to me. I haven’t bought their Cd yet, but I might pick it up soon. That “popular = bad” line does get old after awhile. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-probably-the-last-person-to-discover-evanescence/226925/46 "2004-02-06T21:23:59Z")
> [@Phase42](#): > > When the band’s guitarist/cofounder was asked by Entertainment Weekly (I think) if the band was Christian, he apparently responded with a profanity-filled tirade denying it. “A myrrh record? Who wants a crappy myrrh record?!?!?” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2004, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-probably-the-last-person-to-discover-evanescence/226925/47 "2004-02-06T22:13:46Z")
I thought _Fallen_ sounded good when I first heard it, but it turned out to have an extremely short shelf-life. It sounded great when I first bought it, but a week of heavy rotation in my car stereo made me see it’s many shortcomings. The inclusion of a strings section strikes me as merely pretentious, and the aforementioned lyrical debacle “my god/my tourniquet/return to me salvation” merely highlights the fine line between being edgy and being lame. They make a good effort, but ultimately Evanescence lands on the lame side of the musical fence. > [@Treviathan](#): > > My ex-GF likes the Flaming Lips, Bjork, the Broken Social Scene, the aforementioned Beth Gibbons - but this hackneyed, unoriginal crud is what gets played at the office when she’s controlling the CD player. Broken Social Scene! Just picked up their album a few weeks ago - my new favorite band. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2004, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-probably-the-last-person-to-discover-evanescence/226925/48 "2004-02-08T00:20:10Z")
I never had a chance to make a judgement about this band; EVERY rock station here plays the FUCK out their songs and blew them into the “Sweet Christ they’re playing this song AGAIN?” zone, making me despise the sound of this woman’s voice, talented it may be. Goddamn, radio sucks. ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2004, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-probably-the-last-person-to-discover-evanescence/226925/49 "2004-02-08T01:56:28Z")
Why does everyone hate Creed so much? Is it because they are a ‘Christian’ band? I never really pay attention to what the band is about, or who they are, as long as their music sounds good. And the lead singer of Creed has a great voice. At least it doesn’t sound prepubescent, like the lead singers of Blink 182, AFI, almost evey emo band in existence, etc. Same reason I like Chad Kroeger - he sounds like a man! If I want to listen to some high-pitched male voice, I’ll find a castrato\*, thank you very much. \*Yes, I know there haven’t been any for a century. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2004, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-probably-the-last-person-to-discover-evanescence/226925/50 "2004-02-08T09:27:09Z")
> [@kushiel](#): > > Why does everyone hate Creed so much? Is it because they are a ‘Christian’ band? No, because every single song they write sounds like Pearl Jam’s “Jeremy”. > [@](#): > > If I want to listen to some high-pitched male voice, I’ll find a castrato\*, thank you very much. > > \*Yes, I know there haven’t been any for a century. 😛 Not quite. The last castrato died in the 1920s IIRC, and recordings of him singing do exist. ---
**Author:** ![gaba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e0b2c6/32.png) [@gaba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaba)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2004, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-probably-the-last-person-to-discover-evanescence/226925/51 "2004-02-08T13:31:06Z")
> [@gex gex](#): > > 8 year olds are buying Hilary Duff, 50 Cent and Eminem. heh. this fraked me out. Then I laughed. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2004, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-probably-the-last-person-to-discover-evanescence/226925/52 "2004-02-08T17:20:58Z")
> [@Evil Death](#): > > Not quite. The last castrato died in the 1920s IIRC, and recordings of him singing do exist. I know, but Alessandro Moreschi’s recording was made in 1902/1904, so a century. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2004, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-probably-the-last-person-to-discover-evanescence/226925/53 "2004-02-08T17:48:41Z")
I don’t like Evanescence because of the way she bad-mouthed Howard Stern after he freely and repeatedly plugged their album for several weeks. Stern has an enourmous audience and there’s no doubt that the band made tons of money off of him saying how much he liked the album. And let’s face it, a band like this only cares about the money. If she didn’t like the guy the least she could have done was respectfully keep her mouth shut. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Griffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_Griffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Griffin)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2004, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-probably-the-last-person-to-discover-evanescence/226925/54 "2004-02-08T19:49:34Z")
I only found out a few weeks ago that they’re not called Effervesence… I dont like them because they sound identical to Linkin Park except a woman is singing. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2004, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-probably-the-last-person-to-discover-evanescence/226925/55 "2004-02-08T20:49:30Z")
And to all you people saying how hot she is: yes she looks incredibly good on her [album cover](http://www.bjoern-beck.de/archiv/2003/bilder/evanescence-fallen_gross.jpg) but that’s just another marketing thing. As you can see in shots like [this](http://www.bbc.co.uk/totp/features/wallpaper/640x480/evanescence.jpg), she’s not very attractive. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-probably-the-last-person-to-discover-evanescence/226925.md?page=2)