# I'm ready for class war. Bring on the socialism! **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [April 5, 2009, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ready-for-class-war-bring-on-the-socialism/492044 "2009-04-05T09:11:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 14
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2009, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ready-for-class-war-bring-on-the-socialism/492044/14 "2009-04-05T15:38:13Z")
Its both heartening and refreshing to have someone sanely offer a political stance more radical than mine own, it makes me feel all centrist. Which I feel about as often as I feel fabulous. A few kindly meant words of demur… First off, its less about beginning a class war to win, as ending a class war we’ve largely lost. And its about values, to some degree. So long as relative poverty is ameliorated, so long as the least of us have decent housing, health care, education, etc. then I don’t really care if someone can buy more loud, shiny crap than I. Much good may it do them. It is far, far more important to \*provide for \*than to _take from_. > [@](#): > > …I want to take away your guns… Forget it. Ain’t worth it. The entrenched fanaticism over gun ownership makes this fight not worth having. You see it here, one of the great bastions of sanity on the intertubes. Reasonable, rational folks (for the most part), until you talk about guns, then they have a sphincter seizure that constipates them for a week. Pick your battles. > [@](#): > > …I want your religions to lose any government protection… As above. Vast numbers of our fellows seek a spiritual orientation, some accomodation should be made. Clearly, though, freedom from religion must be as fundmental as freedom of religion. But we can find a muddle way. > [@](#): > > …I want every government restriction on unions gone… Pretty near, save that all institutions of power must be closely watched. let the fate of the Teamsters Union be a stern warning to us all. > [@](#): > > …I want gays to marry… Well, duh. > [@](#): > > …I want any kind of government censorship abolished… Double duh. > [@](#): > > …I want the size of the military budget reduced to less than 10% of what it is now… Sympathize with the motive, uncertain as to the numbers. Agreed that it is wildly overfunded, but need at least some notion of what is to be done with hundreds of thousands of honorable soldiers we would render redundant, we must build “off ramps” to ensure a fair and just position in our society for those who have been schooled in skills we would prefer they never practice. > [@](#): > > …I want all recreational drugs legalized… Far out. > [@](#): > > …I want the USA to disarm its nuclear arsenal first. All of it, without any conditions… Not yet. Alas, but not yet. We cannot simply become the Amish of the world. The most important part of that is to lend assurance that other nations need not beggar themselves to produce these horrors to protect themselves from us. > [@](#): > > …I want nuclear power plants everywhere… May yet prove to be necessary, but I frankly doubt it. Lets see what we can do first. (I skipped some of the easy ones…) > [@](#): > > …I want any executive who accepts a performance bonus from a failing company that laid off workers to go to jail… Too complicated. Better to change the attitudes that make such odious behavior possible, acceptable, and desireable. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ready-for-class-war-bring-on-the-socialism/492044)._