# I'm ready for College Football. **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 14, 2009, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ready-for-college-football/502938 "2009-07-14T03:08:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2009, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ready-for-college-football/502938/41 "2009-08-10T07:22:20Z")
:smack: ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2009, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ready-for-college-football/502938/42 "2009-08-10T17:23:02Z")
Unquestionably doesn’t mean what you think it does. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2009, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ready-for-college-football/502938/43 "2009-08-10T18:17:53Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Florida doesn’t go out of state/conference much because it doesn’t have to. The SEC is unquestionably the best conference, and Florida is, if not the best football state, certainly among the top three. Meh. The SEC has some good teams all right but there’s some dead wood too. I would take more stock in the SEC if it scheduled more competitive non conference games and showed some willingness to travel. Ohio State has done home and home with Texas. Who has Georgia done home and home with? If I’m not mistaken, the last time that Georgia played a non-conference game in the north was during the LBJ administration. ---
**Author:** ![LonghornDave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@LonghornDave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonghornDave)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2009, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ready-for-college-football/502938/44 "2009-08-10T18:49:43Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Meh. The SEC has some good teams all right but there’s some dead wood too. I would take more stock in the SEC if it scheduled more competitive non conference games and showed some willingness to travel. Ohio State has done home and home with Texas. Who has Georgia done home and home with? If I’m not mistaken, the last time that Georgia played a non-conference game in the north was during the LBJ administration. Georgia plays Georgia Tech every year. Also, they play the following non-conference games in the next few seasons: Oklahoma State, Colorado, Louisville, Clemson, and Oregon. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2009, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ready-for-college-football/502938/45 "2009-08-10T18:52:23Z")
> [@Darth\_Sensitive](#): > > Unquestionably doesn’t mean what you think it does. Unquestionably in the sense that it’s only questioned by stupid people and homers. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ready-for-college-football/502938/46 "2009-08-10T20:50:17Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Michigan’s program has been down for a couple years now. I thought staying down for a major university was not a fear until Noter Dame proved it can happen. ND and Michigan have had recruiting advantages for decades. ND has not recovered. I hope U of M is just an aberration. I’m pretty sure it was an aberration. Sheridan is just not a good quarterback, there are a good number of high school teams he wouldn’t be starting for , let alone a major college program. And Threet is a decent QB, but was just not right for running the offense. And the O-line was totally inexperienced. Add in a ridiculous number of bad fumbles(how many times did they just put the ball on the ground untouched?) and an Underachieving D. They should be much better this year. As long as Rod doesn’t expect Forcier to be Pat White, and keys the offense around Minor and the line can get him some holes opened at speed I have some hope. The new D-coordinator should get a better effort out of the talent this year(he certainly can’t get less then last year) They certainly arn’t ready to challenge for the national title, but 6-7 wins should be expected, (as long as Rod kicks enough ass to convince them losing to the jobbers they bring in isn’t acceptable anymore) and 8 possibly would be a really good season. Western Michigan,Eastern Michigan, Delaware state, should all be wins. Indiana, Purdue are good chance to win Wisconsin, Illinois about 50/50 Notre Dame, Michigan state, Iowa= Some chance to win, hopefully take one of them Penn State, Ohio State = There is always next year 😉 ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ready-for-college-football/502938/47 "2009-08-10T20:55:28Z")
Terrelle Pryor ran a [4.33 40 in the spring](http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2009/08/ohio_state_quarterback_terrell_1.html). :eek: ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2009, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ready-for-college-football/502938/48 "2009-08-10T20:57:27Z")
Also, the Buckeyes projected starting OLB may be out for the season after suffering a head injury during a family trip to Florida. It’s rumored that some upstanding member of the community found out he played for OSU and sucker punched him. > **[Ohio State football, basketball, sports news, scores, analysis | buckeyextra.com](https://www.dispatch.com/sports/buckeyextra/)** > > The latest Ohio State Buckeyes football, basketball & sports news ---
**Author:** ![LonghornDave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@LonghornDave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonghornDave)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2009, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ready-for-college-football/502938/49 "2009-08-10T21:08:42Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > Terrelle Pryor ran a [4.33 40 in the spring](http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2009/08/ohio_state_quarterback_terrell_1.html). > :eek: Pryor is just an unreal athlete. I was extremely impressed with his raw athletic ability in the Fiesta Bowl. He obviously needs to improve his passing though. I think he’ll have an up and down year in '09 and be ready to help compete for a national title in '10. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ready-for-college-football/502938/50 "2009-08-18T01:35:52Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > Terrelle Pryor ran a [4.33 40 in the spring](http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2009/08/ohio_state_quarterback_terrell_1.html). > :eek: I’m sure he’s fast and athletic, but I will believe his time when I see it from the NFL combine. (Our QB logged a 4.39 40 this spring and I don’t believe it either). ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ready-for-college-football/502938/51 "2009-08-18T13:15:38Z")
> [@LonghornDave](#): > > Georgia plays Georgia Tech every year. Also, they play the following non-conference games in the next few seasons: Oklahoma State, Colorado, Louisville, Clemson, and Oregon. They are getting a little better. And Alabama has a home and home with Michigan State in a few years (I can’t wait for the chance to boo Nick Satan). But there are far too many games in all the conferences against non-Division I teams. What I’d really like to see is this: there are 11 FBS division conferences. Make every conference schedule at least one home game and one road game against each other FBS conference. So for the Big Ten as an example, there are 44 non conference games (4 per team) each year. Set aside 20 of those for home and home with each other conference. That still leaves 24 games free to throw a few more in with the MAC, CUSA, or a few non-FBS teams. This idea that every school in the major conferences gets 4 cupcake home games every year has to stop. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ready-for-college-football/502938/52 "2009-08-18T13:41:20Z")
**BobLibDem** , For each BCS conference, I look at their non-conference games against other BCS conferences (& Notre Dame) every year. On a per team basis, the Big 10 typically plays fewer games against BCS opponents than the other conferences. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ready-for-college-football/502938/53 "2009-08-18T13:52:01Z")
This site[http://www.colleyrankings.com/curconf.html](http://www.colleyrankings.com/curconf.html) details how conferences do against other conferences. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ready-for-college-football/502938/54 "2009-08-18T19:07:54Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > This site[http://www.colleyrankings.com/curconf.html](http://www.colleyrankings.com/curconf.html) details how conferences do against other conferences. ```auto BIG 12 ACC BIG EAST MWC BIG 10 PAC-10 WAC 2-1 6-6 1-1 0-2 1-1 1-1 1-1 ``` If you eliminate the CUSA and 1-AA, etc., SEC looks pretty average. Note: I have looked at the stats that show the SEC places more people in the pro’s on average per team than the other conferences (with ND and Miami as exceptions), so they clearly have talent. But claiming to be a better conference requires a better record against other conferences on the field (not 1-AA), pretty tough to make claims based on in conference play. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ready-for-college-football/502938/55 "2009-08-18T19:30:34Z")
> [@RaftPeople](#): > > But claiming to be a better conference requires a better record against other conferences on the field (not 1-AA), pretty tough to make claims based on in conference play. Well, there is that whole three straight BCS Championships thing, with a fourth expected. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ready-for-college-football/502938/56 "2009-08-18T19:45:24Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Well, there is that whole three straight BCS Championships thing, with a fourth expected. I don’t consider this a valid argument. The argument is that cupcake schedules are there to makeup for their inability to compete with other BCS conferences on a more regular basis, in order to improve their chances of making it to the title game. I’m sure someone might argue that 3 straight BCS titles is an argument \*against \*the SEC’s conference strength (but I won’t). ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2009, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ready-for-college-football/502938/57 "2009-08-18T20:19:52Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Well, there is that whole three straight BCS Championships thing, with a fourth expected. C’mon, you beat Oklahoma last year, everyone beats Oklahoma. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ready-for-college-football/502938/58 "2009-08-19T19:35:59Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Meh. The SEC has some good teams all right but there’s some dead wood too. I would take more stock in the SEC if it scheduled more competitive non conference games and showed some willingness to travel. Ohio State has done home and home with Texas. Who has Georgia done home and home with? If I’m not mistaken, the last time that Georgia played a non-conference game in the north was during the LBJ administration. Uh, you don’t watch much football do you. I’m specifically thinking about UGA playing ASU in Tempe last season, and the fact that they open vs. OSU in Stillwater this year. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ready-for-college-football/502938/59 "2009-08-19T19:44:08Z")
I-AA fan checking in: It’s a rebuilding year for my UMass Minutemen, but it’s one for the rest of the Colonial too, so just maybe … Aw, hell, I can only name half a dozen kids still on the team. But the New Hampshire game is at Amherst this year, so look for a raucous good time in the stands. Next year the Minutemen go the Big House, where they’ll actually have a plausible chance to take out the shriveled remains of Michigan. Pleasepleaseplease let that be on the telly! ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2009, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ready-for-college-football/502938/60 "2009-08-19T20:10:39Z")
> [@Labrador\_Deceiver](#): > > Uh, you don’t watch much football do you. I’m specifically thinking about UGA playing ASU in Tempe last season, and the fact that they open vs. OSU in Stillwater this year. I dunno. I certainly wouldn’t classify Stillwater or Tempe as the south, but I sure as hell wouldn’t classify them as the north. (Nor do I know why “watching much football” has now become the new prelude to a disagreement.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ready-for-college-football/502938.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-ready-for-college-football/502938.md?page=4)