# I'm Sick and Tired of Backstabbing, Mealymouthed Democrats in Congress (Re: Weinergate)

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**Created:** [June 8, 2011, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740 "2011-06-08T14:05:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/21 "2011-06-08T20:18:16Z")

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I don’t see how it’s “backstabbing” to distance oneself from somebody who did something stupid and gross (and possibly unethical). If fact, I’d think it worse if everybody who happens to have the same parenthetical letter after their names circled the wagons in defense just because. That sounds more like the other party.

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**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/22 "2011-06-08T20:19:08Z")

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> [@pohjonen](#):
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> I have always liked him, but I wish he would step down. He’s given the opposition too much ammunition and I for one don’t want to be hearing Weiner Weiner Weiner every day for the next 18 months.

Yeah just like we keep hearing about David Vitter. The reason you’ll keep hearing Weiner Weiner for the next 18 months isn’t going to be because of Anthony Weiner it’ll be because the people on the other side of the isle behave like children.

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**Author:** ![spifflog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@spifflog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spifflog)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/23 "2011-06-08T20:23:17Z")

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> [@constanze](#):
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> Was he harassing the ladies? Exploiting them like sex-slaves/ prostitutes? Were they underage?
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> Unless real federal laws are broken, what a public servant does with his genitals are non-related to his job. Passing out public money to his cronies, accepting bribes from corporations, making bad laws, starting wars, torturing people … that’s what’s unacceptable for public servants.
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> Taking pictures of his genitals? Pf. …

Constanze, honest question. I understand that you don’t care what he does. (I do, but I we can differ). You really don’t care that he spend the last week telling bald face lies about it? Don’t you think that if he’d like about this, he’d be more apt to take a bribe or lie about other things, that you might care about?

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**Author:** ![spifflog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@spifflog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spifflog)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/24 "2011-06-08T20:24:48Z")

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> [@boytyperanma](#):
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> Yeah just like we keep hearing about David Vitter. The reason you’ll keep hearing Weiner Weiner for the next 18 months isn’t going to be because of Anthony Weiner it’ll be because the people on the other side of the isle behave like children.

They \*\*\*all \*\*\*act like children in this reguard. I honestly don’t see one side acting better than the other.

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**Author:** ![pohjonen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pohjonen/32/423_2.png) [@pohjonen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pohjonen)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/25 "2011-06-08T20:29:55Z")

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> [@boytyperanma](#):
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> Yeah just like we keep hearing about David Vitter. The reason you’ll keep hearing Weiner Weiner for the next 18 months isn’t going to be because of Anthony Weiner it’ll be because the people on the other side of the isle behave like children.

They couldn’t do it if he hadn’t been such an idiot.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/26 "2011-06-08T20:41:27Z")

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> [@boytyperanma](#):
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> Yeah just like we keep hearing about David Vitter. The reason you’ll keep hearing Weiner Weiner for the next 18 months isn’t going to be because of Anthony Weiner it’ll be because the people on the other side of the isle behave like children.

Sure, but Vitter had a huge advantage.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/27 "2011-06-08T20:50:11Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> … I’m also angry at him for giving Breitbart an iota of credibility.

This. Silver lining is the Breitbart is an attention junkie, he would staple his scrotum to Greta van Sustern’s desk if it would get him five minutes of national attention. He’s hooked, there is no turning back, and he \*will \*screw up, big time and downtown.

Meet me here when it happens, we’ll organize a group-gloat.

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/28 "2011-06-08T20:52:35Z")

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Speaking of attention hoors, The Donald posted a youtube of his opinion of The Weiner.

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**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/29 "2011-06-08T20:56:47Z")

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> [@spifflog](#):
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> They \*\*\*all \*\*\*act like children in this reguard. I honestly don’t see one side acting better than the other.

One side is not like the other. Eric Cantor and Reince Priebus are now calling for Weiner to resign because of this scandal. They didn’t do so for David Vitter. That’s a mighty hypocritical position they’ve found themselves in. Did Wiener do something above and beyond what David Vitter did that justifies their difference in opinion besides simply being a Democrat?

If all things are equal and the Democrats don’t act better then the other, surely we have examples of Democratic leadership calling for Vitter’s resignation but not Weiner?

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/30 "2011-06-08T21:00:48Z")

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> [@constanze](#):
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> Unless real federal laws are broken, what a public servant does with his genitals are non-related to his job. Passing out public money to his cronies, accepting bribes from corporations, making bad laws, starting wars, torturing people … that’s what’s unacceptable for public servants.

I hope to hold elected public officials to a higher standard than just what is illegal. This guy was ridiculously stupid - that for me is enough to want him out of office. We should hold our congressman to a higher standard of stupid than this.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/31 "2011-06-08T21:04:16Z")

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> [@Evil\_Captor](#):
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> Now that Rep. Weiner’s in trouble, the knives are out. We knew the Repubs would be gunning for him, that’s to be expected. But the way Pelosi called immediately for an ethics investigation, the way Reed dissed him in a press conference (“call somebody else!”) the fact that no Dem is standing up for him when they should be doing their best for him. You know why?

Umm…Because he was sending out pictures of his wiener. And then lied about it, while also saying that he couldn’t tell if the wiener in said pictures was his with certitude - or as Jon Stewart said the other night cocksureness - or as I prefer to say wienersureness.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/32 "2011-06-08T21:16:15Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> Sure, but Vitter had a huge advantage.
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> -Joe

Are you saying that he has a bigger wiener?

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/33 "2011-06-08T21:52:00Z")

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The NYT reports that Huma Abedin is pregnant.

[http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/08/weiners-wife-is-pregnant/?hp](http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/08/weiners-wife-is-pregnant/?hp)

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/34 "2011-06-08T21:58:21Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> Are you saying that he has a bigger wiener?

Nah. It’s just harder to identify it through the diaper.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/35 "2011-06-08T22:33:33Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> Also, if the Congressman uses his Twitter account to disseminate information about himself and his politics to his constituents (and i’ll bet he does), then it’s hard to argue that the stuff he tweets should be private. If he wanted to send pictures of his junk, he should have set up a separate, non-official, junk-picture-sending Twitter account.

I see a business plan in there. We can call it TwiXXXer.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/36 "2011-06-08T22:36:56Z")

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> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#):
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> The NYT reports that Huma Abedin is pregnant.
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> [Anthony Weiner's Wife, Huma Abedin, Is Pregnant - The New York Times](http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/08/weiners-wife-is-pregnant/?hp)

At least we now know that it works!

I don’t know why she kept her maiden name. What’s wrong with Huma Weiner? 😃

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/37 "2011-06-08T22:42:17Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> I don’t see how it’s “backstabbing” to distance oneself from somebody who did something stupid and gross (and possibly unethical). If fact, I’d think it worse if everybody who happens to have the same parenthetical letter after their names circled the wagons in defense just because. That sounds more like the other party.

Well I can’t help but notice that the other party, although it only controls one house of Congress, has a lot more success getting its way than the Dems. Maybe there is something to backing your guy even when he’s done something stupid.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/38 "2011-06-08T22:44:35Z")

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> [@boytyperanma](#):
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> Yeah just like we keep hearing about David Vitter. The reason you’ll keep hearing Weiner Weiner for the next 18 months isn’t going to be because of Anthony Weiner it’ll be because the people on the other side of the isle behave like children.

Hey, if it keeps people’s minds off the economy, it could work very much to the Dems’ advantage!

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/39 "2011-06-08T22:47:40Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> Umm…Because he was sending out pictures of his wiener. And then lied about it, while also saying that he couldn’t tell if the wiener in said pictures was his with certitude - or as Jon Stewart said the other night cocksureness - or as I prefer to say wienersureness.

Oh, come now. The people in Congress are grownups, regardless of how childlike their behavior is for the sake of the media. They could give a flip about Weiner’s twittering. And they all lie like rugs whenever it works for them. I’ll grant you, Weiner responded in a MONUMENTALLY stupid way to the discovering of his twit-brained shenanigans, but what he did pales in comparison with what many others who are still in Congress have done. We all gotta grow up a little here. This is kid stuff.

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**Author:** ![Cort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/77aa72/32.png) [@Cort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cort)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/40 "2011-06-08T22:51:50Z")

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> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> Hey, they’d do the same thing to any Republican who’d done something similar, so fair’s fair. I’m mostly a Dem, and _I_ don’t want to be associated with him, either.

The Republicans wouldn’t treat one of their own that way. Family values candidate David Vitter spent the whole of 2007 banging $300 an hour whores, but the Republican Party stood by him. It’s stuff like this that makes them a more cohesive, and consequently more effective, political force.

> [@Telemark](#):
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> What they should learn is that there are unacceptable things for public servants to do. This guy did several of them. He should leave office.

I agree Weiner’s conduct was unacceptable, but if the Democrats are genuinely serious about combatting the right-wing agenda then they should bite the bullet and stand by him. At the very least, they should refrain from attacking him. Is it dirty? Yes. Is it ugly, distasteful, unrepentantly partisan politics? Absolutely. Is it what the Republicans would do? Of course it is. Weinergate is a short-term embarrassment, and will almost certainly be forgotten in a few months. Weiner himself, however, has the potential to be a powerful voice against right-wing interests for years to come.

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