# I'm Sick and Tired of Backstabbing, Mealymouthed Democrats in Congress (Re: Weinergate) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 8, 2011, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740 "2011-06-08T14:05:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/61 "2011-06-09T15:03:21Z")
So is getting a prostitue to take off your diaper and give your bottom the spanking it deserves indicative of a colorful personality, or a behavioral quirk? ---
**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/62 "2011-06-09T15:29:23Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > I don’t particularly like Vitter as a person, but political comparisons to him don’t seem particularly on point. He is from Louisiana - and voters of both parties there seem to tolerate politicians that have colorful personalities or behavioral quirks. > > I think history supports me on this one. Let’s just hope **Bricker** doesn’t read the above. I understand he just _hates_ partisan-motivated double standards! I’m sure he’ll be by any moment now to disabuse you of your error. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/63 "2011-06-09T15:37:07Z")
> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#): > > Let’s just hope **Bricker** doesn’t read the above. I understand he just _hates_ partisan-motivated double standards! I’m sure he’ll be by any moment now to disabuse you of your error. I’m not sure I see his error. His claim is that Louisana voters are more forgiving of moral peccadillos than New York voters. At whom would my ire be directed? The Louisana voter? The New York voter? Mr. Moto, for pointing it out? ---
**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/64 "2011-06-09T15:45:32Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I’m not sure I see his error. > > His claim is that Louisana voters are more forgiving of moral peccadillos than New York voters. At whom would my ire be directed? The Louisana voter? The New York voter? Mr. Moto, for pointing it out? Well, where can we go to verify whether this alleged vast gulf between the political mores of New York and Louisiana is the case? Because from where I stand, it seems like a pretty ad hoc way to justify Sen. Vitter’s continued tenure in the Senate while insisting that Rep. Weiner resign. After you spent the better part of last evening making a federal case about **Dio** ’s having told a Mark Foley joke once. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/65 "2011-06-09T15:57:26Z")
> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#): > > Well, where can we go to verify whether this alleged vast gulf between the political mores of New York and Louisiana is the case? Because from where I stand, it seems like a pretty ad hoc way to justify Sen. Vitter’s continued tenure in the Senate while insisting that Rep. Weiner resign. After you spent the better part of last evening making a federal case about **Dio** ’s having told a Mark Foley joke once. Ahh, I see. As I read the comment, he’s not expressing any personal desire, but simply explaining why, in his view, Vitter has remained. If you explain the concept of tornadoes to someone, you do not thereby approve of houses being flattened. In Dio’s case, he obviously - and vociferously - defended Weiner, demanding proof before allowing even the slightest concession of any wrongdoing… but joined in the general joking and poking fun at Foley. So I see Moto as not taking any position, and Dio taking a strong position. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/66 "2011-06-09T16:02:57Z")
As to the question of how we might determine if Louisana voters are forgiving – Vitter’s prostitution use was made public in June 2007. Subsequent to that revelation, he won both a primary challenge and a general election, the latter with a 57% margin of victory. Personally, I’m still stunned. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/67 "2011-06-09T16:03:59Z")
I’m not even demanding that Weiner resign, though I think it would have been better had Vitter done so, or chose not to run again. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/68 "2011-06-09T16:21:39Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > As to the question of how we might determine if Louisana voters are forgiving – Vitter’s prostitution use was made public in June 2007. Subsequent to that revelation, he won both a primary challenge and a general election, the latter with a 57% margin of victory. Plus, recent Louisiana politics are peppered with personalities like Edwin Edwards, David Duke, Bill Jefferson, Mose Jefferson, Betty Jefferson, various other Jeffersons, Oliver Thomas, Ellenese Brooks-Simms, and many, many others. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/69 "2011-06-09T16:23:28Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > I’m not even demanding that Weiner resign, though I think it would have been better had Vitter done so, or chose not to run again. Vitter should have resigned. Vitter should still resign. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/70 "2011-06-09T17:17:28Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > I don’t particularly like Vitter as a person, but political comparisons to him don’t seem particularly on point. He is from Louisiana - and voters of both parties there seem to tolerate politicians that have colorful personalities or behavioral quirks. > > I think history supports me on this one. So if Weiner gets re-elected in New York, no harm no foul? It’s not the _voters_ who are calling on him to resign, it’s the other pols. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/71 "2011-06-09T17:30:32Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > So if Weiner gets re-elected in New York, no harm no foul? No. Let’s remember that Ted Kennedy had a reasonable chance at the presidency before Chappaquiddick. And while he was an effective legislator afterward this incident affected the remainder of his political career. There are countless other examples on both sides of the aisle. So no, we can’t say no harm and no foul. Weiner had ambitions to run for mayor. I don’t see them surviving this, and there is a good chance his congressional career might be cut short. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/72 "2011-06-09T17:44:17Z")
The original comparison that was made was that Republican pols (and Democrat pols) want Weiner to step down, when no pols publicly said boo about Vitter. Nobody said anything about voters regarding Vitter until you brought them up to sidestep the original comparison. ---
**Author:** ![Mentor\_and\_Liar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2acd7d/32.png) [@Mentor\_and\_Liar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mentor_and_Liar)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/73 "2011-06-09T17:59:49Z")
He should resign for what? He got caught masturbating, believe it or not, even Congressmen masturbate. These people of the “RESIGN, LIAR!” herd, act as if they’ve never had a dickish room-mate. This is how it works: Dickish Room-mate: Knock, knock, knock. You: One sec’. Dickish Room-mate: KNOCK, KNOCK, KNOCK. What are you doing in there? You: Nothing. Dickish Room-mate: Liar! Resign! You: I hereby resign from carrying out the garbage. There are, at this moment, so many people masturbating while using the internet that we have run out of IP addresses. If caught, they will lie about it, it is what is done in polite company. Likewise, if you catch someone masturbating, it is only polite to look away and never mention it again. Grow up and show some manners. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/74 "2011-06-09T19:11:04Z")
Whoa, hold up a second here. He got _caught_ choking the chicken? When? How? By whom? ---
**Author:** ![Mentor\_and\_Liar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2acd7d/32.png) [@Mentor\_and\_Liar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mentor_and_Liar)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/75 "2011-06-09T19:23:20Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Whoa, hold up a second here. He got _caught_ choking the chicken? When? How? By whom? Dude, you thought those sexy messages and pictures were all about drafting a bill? Find yourself a fainting couch, you delicate old fuddy-duddy, masturbation is no longer confined just to the little tent you made in your bunk-bed. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/76 "2011-06-09T19:35:59Z")
I’m still looking for a definition of masturbation that includes sending pictures of your cock to people you’ve never met. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/77 "2011-06-09T19:36:14Z")
I’ve had any number of adjectives applied to me, but “delicate”? That’s a first. But, be that as it may, you said “caught”. Nothing like “presumably” or “take my word for it, he was strangling his mongoose”. So, who “caught” him? And if you wish to assure us that your expertise in the onanistic arts is sufficient that we should trust your pronouncements of things not in evidence, perhaps you would be so kind as outline just how you came to this profound and encyclopedic knowledge. ---
**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/78 "2011-06-09T19:56:20Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I’ve had any number of adjectives applied to me, but “delicate”? That’s a first. But, be that as it may, you said “caught”. Nothing like “presumably” or “take my word for it, he was strangling his mongoose”. So, who “caught” him? > > And if you wish to assure us that your expertise in the onanistic arts is sufficient that we should trust your pronouncements of things not in evidence, perhaps you would be so kind as outline just how you came to this profound and encyclopedic knowledge. I like the **Dio** show better than this lame knock-off. ---
**Author:** ![Mentor\_and\_Liar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2acd7d/32.png) [@Mentor\_and\_Liar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mentor_and_Liar)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/79 "2011-06-09T19:58:39Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > I’m still looking for a definition of masturbation that includes sending pictures of your cock to people you’ve never met. > [@elucidator](#): > > I’ve had any number of adjectives applied to me, but “delicate”? That’s a first. But, be that as it may, you said “caught”. Nothing like “presumably” or “take my word for it, he was strangling his mongoose”. So, who “caught” him? > > And if you wish to assure us that your expertise in the onanistic arts is sufficient that we should trust your pronouncements of things not in evidence, perhaps you would be so kind as outline just how you came to this profound and encyclopedic knowledge. I can’t think of a situation in which you are sitting in your office, in your underwear, with an erection, that you decided take a picture of and then fire off a spicy message, that was not somehow part and parcel of masturbating. Were there any other explanation I might have qualified my statement. The outline of my profound knowledge is soon to be formed by my thumb and my palm. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740/80 "2011-06-09T20:33:46Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > As to the question of how we might determine if Louisana voters are forgiving – Vitter’s prostitution use was made public in June 2007. Subsequent to that revelation, he won both a primary challenge and a general election, the latter with a 57% margin of victory. > > Personally, I’m still stunned. They don’t call it the Big Easy for nothin. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-backstabbing-mealymouthed-democrats-in-congress-re-weinergate/584740.md?page=5)