# I'm sick and tired of you dumb... **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 6, 2007, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-you-dumb/398988 "2007-04-06T15:53:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2007, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-you-dumb/398988/21 "2007-04-06T18:16:47Z")
[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster] If those girls’ mothers had made them stay home they’d still be alive. Let’s imprison all irresponsible parents! If alcohol wasn’t freely available, the guy wouldn’t have been drunk. Ban booze! If there was no vehicle, there would be no damage. Ban cars! [/QUOTE] Shhh, you’ll give people ideas. (except for the car thing, that’d never fly.) (ETA: no pun intended.) ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2007, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-you-dumb/398988/22 "2007-04-06T20:11:28Z")
[QUOTE=ivylass] If the illegal alien was deported after his first traffic ticket, the girls would still be alive. [/QUOTE] Better yet! If the illegal alien had been driving a Vespa, he would have been killed in the wreck, and the girls would have alive! Win win! Oo! Oo! If the illegal alien had been driving a Vespa, and if the illegal alien were _Hugo Chavez_, even better! Wait! Wait! If the illegal alien had been driving a Vespa, and if the illegal alien were Hugo Chavez, and if he had been plotting terrorist activity with Osama bin Laden, and Osama bin Laden were carrying a bomb he was going to plant somewhere, and Hugo Chavez had the remote detonator switch, and when he got clobbered on the Vespa he accidentally gripped the detonator switch in mid-air and set off the bomb Osama bin Laden was carrying, and… wait for it… _if Osama bin Laden happened at that moment to be standing on the set of television sitcom “According to Jim,” that would be **best of all!** _ ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2007, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-you-dumb/398988/23 "2007-04-06T20:15:37Z")
[QUOTE=ivylass] O’Reilly may have lost his temper, but he was right. If the illegal alien was deported after his first traffic ticket, the girls would still be alive. Hell, he should have been deported as soon as someone realized he was here illegally. [/QUOTE] Coulda, shoulda woulda. Doesn’t change what happened. Also the girls still could have been killed by “A Random Drunk Driver 01”. The problem is drunk driving _ **no matter what nationality the driver is** _! ---
**Author:** ![Improv\_Geek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b3f665/32.png) [@Improv\_Geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Improv_Geek)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2007, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-you-dumb/398988/24 "2007-04-06T20:41:51Z")
I watched this and just shook my head. – IG ---
**Author:** ![BarnOwl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e95f7d/32.png) [@BarnOwl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BarnOwl)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2007, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-you-dumb/398988/25 "2007-04-06T21:49:49Z")
[QUOTE=Improv Geek] I watched this and just shook my head. – IG [/QUOTE] The one thing I liked was Geraldo stood his ground. Bill likes to bully people smaller than he is—physically threaten them. But when guys his size threaten him, he stays calm and tells them he’ll call his lawyers, ---
**Author:** ![TV\_time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f17d59/32.png) [@TV\_time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TV_time)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2007, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-you-dumb/398988/26 "2007-04-07T16:59:54Z")
…And people have the gall to question why I think FOX News is a wonderful news source. If this clip doesn’t explain it, nothing will. …I am being facetious about FOX being “wonderful”, you understand that, right? ---
**Author:** ![FisherQueen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@FisherQueen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FisherQueen)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2007, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-you-dumb/398988/27 "2007-04-07T17:20:50Z")
If the immigrant had been too drunk to stagger to his car, he wouldn’t have been able to drive drunk. Bartenders should be required to encourage their patrons to drink themselves unconscious. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2007, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-you-dumb/398988/28 "2007-04-07T17:22:40Z")
[QUOTE=ivylass] O’Reilly may have lost his temper, but he was right. If the illegal alien was deported after his first traffic ticket, the girls would still be alive. Hell, he should have been deported as soon as someone realized he was here illegally. [/QUOTE] And the American citizens who drive drunk-what about them? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2007, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-you-dumb/398988/29 "2007-04-07T17:25:00Z")
Man, O’Reilly really hates Mexicans. He was really losing it there. That was a nice glimpse into what kind of a malicious, raving lunatic the guy really is. And **Ivylass**? No, he wasn’t right. Trying to deport all undocumented residents for misdemeanors would be impractical and stupid. Geraldo was right, his drunkeness behind the wheel had nothing to do with his “illegal” status. O’Reilly was just pouncing on the story as an excuse to bash illegals and try to imply between the lines that they’re all dangerous criminals. It was just pure race baiting (like it always is with this issue, don’t tell me it isn’t) and Geraldo knew it and he called O’Reilly on it. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2007, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-you-dumb/398988/30 "2007-04-07T17:31:52Z")
[QUOTE=Guinastasia] And the American citizens who drive drunk-what about them? :rolleyes: [/QUOTE] Deport them, too! ---
**Author:** ![Gentle\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gentle\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gentle_Robot)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2007, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-you-dumb/398988/31 "2007-04-07T17:51:55Z")
Pretty good idea IMO. Didn’t really get Geraldo’s argument that illegal aliens commit less crimes - they’re committing a crime just being here. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2007, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-you-dumb/398988/32 "2007-04-07T17:57:50Z")
[QUOTE=ivylass] O’Reilly may have lost his temper, but he was right. If the illegal alien was deported after his first traffic ticket, the girls would still be alive. Hell, he should have been deported as soon as someone realized he was here illegally. [/QUOTE] No, this time I do agree with Gerardo, (and I hate Fox for giving me that choice here) talking about deportation is avoiding the issue. (see below) [QUOTE=A. I. Wintermute] He may have been right in point of fact, but the conclusions he seemed to be drawing from that fact were suspect. Is it factually true that had the illegal alien been deported, he would not have killed those girls while driving drunk? Yes. Is this specific incident a valid argument for deporting illegals to begin with? That’s awfully shaky. [/QUOTE] In yet another case, I do remember that deportation showed to be a joke, the bastard returned illegally to the US and then got drunk again and also killed other drivers (I shake my head at drunk people seemingly miraculous property of surviving wrecks while their victims die) Point being that the problem does remain drunk driving, I think the authorities need to realize that repeating drunk driving needs to be dealt with longer jail time when the drunks show no common sense. Deportation is a cop out when there are no good treaties with other nations that would keep in jail people that break driving under the influence laws in the US, the best solution remains their incarceration in the US, for both immigrant and natives. ---
**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2007, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-you-dumb/398988/33 "2007-04-07T23:24:08Z")
Aiee! I was so confused. I couldn’t decide which one to hope would make himself look more insanely ridiculous. Either way, one of them would look better than another entity on the planet. The horns of a dilemma, and a historical first. Neither has ever looked more noble than anyone else. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2007, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-you-dumb/398988/34 "2007-04-07T23:31:44Z")
[QUOTE=Czarcasm] Deport them, too! [/QUOTE] Can’t we just deport O’Reilly? No wait-that wouldn’t be fair to the people in the place we deport him to. ---
**Author:** ![straight\_man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/straight_man/32/3027_2.png) [@straight\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/straight_man)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2007, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-you-dumb/398988/35 "2007-04-08T00:04:05Z")
I personally thought Rivera looked passionately well-spoken – but I haven’t seen him on anything else to have any predetermined feelings about the guy, so I’m not sure that opinion is worth anything. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-and-tired-of-you-dumb/398988.md?page=1)