# I'M SICK OF BEING PC (regarding certain individuals) i.e., I am an insensitive bitch. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 11, 2002, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-being-pc-regarding-certain-individuals-i-e-i-am-an-insensitive-bitch/103100 "2002-04-11T20:33:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![aenea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c68b51/32.png) [@aenea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aenea)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-being-pc-regarding-certain-individuals-i-e-i-am-an-insensitive-bitch/103100/21 "2002-04-12T00:44:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by obfusciatrist \* > > On the other hand, Krispy Kremes are disgusting balls of lard, so it is probably for the best that he saved four others from them. **Ob** , Usually I have great admiration for your observations and witty, interesting writing. However. This time, you sir, have crossed the line ::stomps off muttering[sub]Krispy Kremes RULE dammit[/sub]:: ---
**Author:** ![Hemlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Hemlock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hemlock)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-being-pc-regarding-certain-individuals-i-e-i-am-an-insensitive-bitch/103100/22 "2002-04-12T01:04:48Z")
**His crime is also his punishment** Every time this guy eats more than his fair share of extremely unhealthy food, he is damaging himself. Every time someone else doesn’t get a donut, they are being spared something that will contribute to poor health. He’s a selfish glutton headed for Dante’s 3rd circle of hell. Sit back and - if you want - take pleasure in the pain and suffering his poor knees, heart, arteries, colon, etc etc will soon cause him. ---
**Author:** ![Caught\_Work](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/919ad9/32.png) [@Caught\_Work](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caught_Work)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-being-pc-regarding-certain-individuals-i-e-i-am-an-insensitive-bitch/103100/23 "2002-04-12T01:25:43Z")
Maybe what needs to happen is that FATTY gets his own very special plate of, say, 10 doughnuts and every one else is asked not to touch FATTY’s plate and therefore FATTY gets the wolfing he “needs”. OR A very special note goes around the doughnuts that states NONE FOR YOU FATTY 'COS WE DON’T LIKE YOU. In either manner your are either celebrating the difference between FATTY and everyone else, accepting that he “needs” more, or you are excluding him because you dislike him rather than 'cos he’s a FAT BASTARD. ---
**Author:** ![ElwoodCuse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/edb3f5/32.png) [@ElwoodCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElwoodCuse)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-being-pc-regarding-certain-individuals-i-e-i-am-an-insensitive-bitch/103100/24 "2002-04-12T03:25:34Z")
Anyone else thinking of Milton and the incident with Lumburgh’s cake in Office Space? ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-being-pc-regarding-certain-individuals-i-e-i-am-an-insensitive-bitch/103100/25 "2002-04-12T04:42:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Newton meter \* > \*\* > Actually I guess it’s not really about whether you’re overweight or underweight, it’s about not eating the exact amount I think you should. Sheesh, get a clue folks. \*\* Are you on crack? This isn’t a quibble over whether 1/8 or 1/6 of a pie is an appropriate piece. Fucko over there took almost half of the food for himself. It was supposed to be for everyone (or almost everyone) and he took _half_. Half! The fact that he happens to be fat would have been irrelevant had he a) not used it himself as an excuse and b) not threatoned to complain to upper management about it so he could bully his was into continuing to take more than his share. He deserves to be shamed for his selfishness. Haj ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-being-pc-regarding-certain-individuals-i-e-i-am-an-insensitive-bitch/103100/26 "2002-04-12T06:38:34Z")
> [@](#): > > _fluiddruid wrote:_ > BBJ, being selfish and inconsiderate does not equal being fat. You don’t seem to understand the difference. You equate the two. Why? If a thin person came in and took more than his or her fair share, would it be more OK than a fat person doing it? > > Really, his weight is irrelevant. You would likely get offended if someone bitched and moaned about a similar situation but kept referring to the person’s race, or ethnicity, or religion. It’s just not relevant and the very fact that you keep bringing it up implies that you do have a problem with fat people and not so much the selfish behavior. This is what I’m thinking too. This guy is an ass - a selfish hog of an ass. And he’d be an ass if he were fat or thin. I personally don’t care what you said to him, because he’s clearly an ass, and he doesn’t deserve much sympathy. But your attitude here tells me that you have some “issues” with fat, and this guy is a convenient target because he’s an ass, who also happens to be fat. His weight has little to do with it. He’s just an ass. ---
**Author:** ![istara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e79b87/32.png) [@istara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/istara)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-being-pc-regarding-certain-individuals-i-e-i-am-an-insensitive-bitch/103100/27 "2002-04-12T07:01:31Z")
This man is a greedy pig. Being a greedy pig has made him fat. So it’s his own fault. You despise him for being a greedy pig, there’s nothing wrong with that. How fking selfish and mean-spirited to eat 5 donuts. And how fking disgusting. (Assuming these were big donuts, not those mini ones). ---
**Author:** ![Briny\_Deep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/briny_deep/32/17188_2.png) [@Briny\_Deep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Briny_Deep)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-being-pc-regarding-certain-individuals-i-e-i-am-an-insensitive-bitch/103100/28 "2002-04-12T08:26:36Z")
You know what I am thinking? I will tell you. More office disputes are over food-issues than over salary. I swear to Og, if people would cool it with the bringing-in-food and the dividing-up-food-into-portions and the birthday-parties and the washing-up and the give-me-money-to-buy-food and the I’m-a-good-person-because-I-brought-in-food - Well really. It’s stupid, it causes more problems than it solves, and if I were an office manager, I would just ban all food in the office. Too big of a fucking headache. No offense to the OP. Enjoy your doughnuts. ---
**Author:** ![Kate\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7cd45c/32.png) [@Kate\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kate_S)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-being-pc-regarding-certain-individuals-i-e-i-am-an-insensitive-bitch/103100/29 "2002-04-12T10:00:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BottledBlondJeanie \* > \*\*They hate this guy as he especially has a “better than thou” attitude and he takes their food. \*\* I work in a law office, too. Sounds as if this guy is a certainty for partnership - he has all the right attitudes. We’ve got one like that in our office, too: we make bets on how quickly he’ll hoover up any new goodies that appear in the pantry. Kate S ---
**Author:** ![Phlip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Phlip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlip)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-being-pc-regarding-certain-individuals-i-e-i-am-an-insensitive-bitch/103100/30 "2002-04-12T11:13:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Newton meter \* > \*\*When this happens to me (someone brings in doughnuts), I usually try to stuff as many as I can in my fat face in as short a timespan as I can when nobody’s around. I figure, that way, I get the maximum number of doughnuts, and nobody will know. Then, when someone walks in and I’m choking down doughnut number 17, I just pretend like it’s my first one. > > That way, I get lots of doughnuts, _and_ piss off people who are way too sensitive about what others eat. \*\* Whether you intended it to be or not, that is some funny fuckin shit you said there. The picture in my head is priceless. ---
**Author:** ![Newton\_meter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/57b2e6/32.png) [@Newton\_meter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Newton_meter)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-being-pc-regarding-certain-individuals-i-e-i-am-an-insensitive-bitch/103100/31 "2002-04-12T11:15:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by hajario \* > **Are you on crack?** That would explain a lot. > [@](#): > > **This isn’t a quibble over whether 1/8 or 1/6 of a pie is an appropriate piece. Fucko over there took almost half of the food for himself. It was supposed to be for everyone (or almost everyone) and he took _half_. Half!** Just a nit: I don’t think there’s enough information in the story problem to conclude that he took half the doughnuts. He took _five_. Five! > [@](#): > > **The fact that he happens to be fat would have been irrelevant had he a) not used it himself as an excuse and b) not threatoned to complain to upper management…** The fact that he happens to be fat _is_ irrelevant, except the OP spent the first three paragraphs ripping on fat people. Was the guy rude? It appears so, no matter what his weight. Is he oversensitive about his weight, thus imputing false motives to **BBJ**? Probably, but perhaps understandably. Did **BBJ** have to play doughnut police? I guess she thought so. But the tone of the OP still offends me. I am left with the feeling that if the offender were a marathon runner in training, and his excuse was that he “had just run a 20 miler this morning”, the we wouldn’t be treated to those three paragraphs ranting about scrawny long distance runners, and how they’re always overeating because they artificially burn more calories than they need to. I’m not sure what the equivalent of “so large his ripples have ripples”, “he sweats when he has to walk from one end of the office to the other”, “He is NOT disabled in any way aside from the weight”, and “MY GOD THIS BOY CAN PUT AWAY THE GROCERIES. Fried chicken, fried pies, french fries, burgers, cheesecake…he eats enough for a small army” would be for a long distance runner. So, _I_ may be imputing false motives to **BBJ** too, and if so, I apologize, Jeanie. Reading and rereading the post, it still strikes me as offensive. If I were overweight, reading it would make me feel shitty. And so I don’t think it’s all that nice to post it here. Not that we _have_ to be nice, but we _should_. We should not insult entire groups of people unless they’ve earned it. YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![Phlip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Phlip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlip)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-being-pc-regarding-certain-individuals-i-e-i-am-an-insensitive-bitch/103100/32 "2002-04-12T11:17:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by aenea \* > \*\*Sure, I could also be PC, and then proceed to tell you why you should not have said anything to this man. > > Fuck that. > > Sometimes you just gotta call people on their shit, and they usually don’t like it. If the man is being a hog, then he’s being a hog, plain and simple. > > FWIW, it really pisses me off when very overweight people start making snide remarks about other people’s weight and looks. \*\* Another gem from this thread. lol ---
**Author:** ![Caught\_Work](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/919ad9/32.png) [@Caught\_Work](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caught_Work)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-being-pc-regarding-certain-individuals-i-e-i-am-an-insensitive-bitch/103100/33 "2002-04-12T11:32:11Z")
> [@](#): > > If I were overweight, reading it would make me feel shitty. Well, you’re not apparently overweight, so how do you know how fat people feel? I’m not obese. I’m portly ! Well, maybe a little chunkier than portly, but I couldn’t give two rats arses whether you think I’m fat or not. If I ate half the donuts, I think it fair that you think I’m a pig. By Og, if I ate half the donuts I would think myself a pig. But obviously this person doesn’t. It’s not about being fat, it’s about the idea of sharing. ---
**Author:** ![Phlip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Phlip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlip)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-being-pc-regarding-certain-individuals-i-e-i-am-an-insensitive-bitch/103100/34 "2002-04-12T11:34:39Z")
I have a fat cock. Thats abuot all thats fat on me. 😃 😃 😃 😃 :eek: :eek: :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Newton\_meter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/57b2e6/32.png) [@Newton\_meter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Newton_meter)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-being-pc-regarding-certain-individuals-i-e-i-am-an-insensitive-bitch/103100/35 "2002-04-12T11:40:58Z")
> [@](#): > > _Me:_ > **If I were overweight, reading it would make me feel shitty.** > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Caught@Work \* > **Well, you’re not apparently overweight, so how do you know how fat people feel?** Yikes, I didn’t know this would be all that controversial. I have two ways of knowing about other people: talking to them and putting myself in their shoes. Both communication and empathy suggest that people don’t like undeserved personal criticism. > [@](#): > > \*\*It’s not about being fat, it’s about the idea of sharing. \*\* Err, then why didn’t it start off with: “So calling someone “rude” or “inconsiderate” as a criticism is a VERY BAD THING on these boards…”? ---
**Author:** ![Caught\_Work](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/919ad9/32.png) [@Caught\_Work](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caught_Work)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-being-pc-regarding-certain-individuals-i-e-i-am-an-insensitive-bitch/103100/36 "2002-04-12T11:53:46Z")
The OP didn’t suggest that they referred to the culprit here as fat, but only that PC requires she not refer to him as fat. Me, I would have referred to him as a greedy bastard, making it quite clear that he was taking more than his share and avoided the fat altogether. What appears to have happened, is that **BottledBlondJeanie** suggested that the gentlman, take his fair share (ie. “you don’t need that many.”) and he appeared to start in on the fat (really implying that he knows he’s done bad, and is trying to deflect the situation from himself back to **BBJ** ). Bad, fat boy !!! ---
**Author:** ![Newton\_meter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/57b2e6/32.png) [@Newton\_meter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Newton_meter)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-being-pc-regarding-certain-individuals-i-e-i-am-an-insensitive-bitch/103100/37 "2002-04-12T12:30:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Caught@Work \* > **The OP didn’t suggest that they referred to the culprit here as fat, but only that PC requires she not refer to him as fat.** But then she _did_ go on to refer to him as fat. In quite insulting terms. Note that I’m not objecting to what **BBJ** said to _him_, I could give a rats ass about that. I’m objecting that she came in here ranting about “fat people”. We’ve established that his bad behavior had nothing to do with his weight. She didn’t speak to him about his weight, so ripping on him about it here doesn’t do anything to him. What it does do is insult any reader who happens to be heavy (whether you feel insulted or not). Again, it’s quite clear that her gratuitous criticism in this rant is about his _appearance_, and that appearance happens to be one that is shared by any number of people who _didn’t_ take five doughnuts. _She_ didn’t confine her criticism to his behavior, and I will not hold off pointing that out. I don’t give a crap if she was sensitive to this particular dick she works with that she already has a history with. I _do_ give a crap if she’s sensitive _in general_ to other people. Not trying to be the PC police, just saying: if you say rude things, others might point it out. ---
**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-being-pc-regarding-certain-individuals-i-e-i-am-an-insensitive-bitch/103100/38 "2002-04-12T12:58:16Z")
Newton, you are not making sense. Your first post in this thread was a rather lame analogy suggesting that what the gentleman did (inhale 5 donuts) was not wrong, and that what Jeanie said to him was unwarranted (“it’s about not eating the exact amount I think you should”). Now you say: “Note that I’m not objecting to what BBJ said to him, I could give a rats ass about that. I’m objecting that she came in here ranting about “fat people”.” What gives? Once you find fault with a post, are you the type of person who will seek to nitpick each and every point therein instead on focusing on the point you objected to? The preferred method for doing this to quote her post line by line, inserting your own commentary after each brief quote. ---
**Author:** ![Newton\_meter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/57b2e6/32.png) [@Newton\_meter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Newton_meter)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-being-pc-regarding-certain-individuals-i-e-i-am-an-insensitive-bitch/103100/39 "2002-04-12T13:24:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Waverly \* > **Newton, you are not making sense. Your first post in this thread was a rather lame analogy suggesting that what the gentleman did (inhale 5 donuts) was not wrong, and that what Jeanie said to him was unwarranted (“it’s about not eating the exact amount I think you should”).** No, it was a lame knee-jerk analogy suggesting that she saw malice where perhaps none was intended and that it shouldn’t matter so much to _her_ what _others_ eat. Upon further reading, I saw that this person was an “asshole” and her secretary was deprived of a much needed doughnut thus making it everyone’s business, so I withdraw the lame analogy. > [@](#): > > **Now you say: “Note that I’m not objecting to what BBJ said to him, I could give a rats ass about that. I’m objecting that she came in here ranting about “fat people”.”** Yes, that’s the essence of it. That’s my sole remaining objection. > [@](#): > > **What gives? Once you find fault with a post, are you the type of person who will seek to nitpick each and every point therein instead on focusing on the point you objected to?** What if I have more than one objection? Is that allowed? Initially, I objected on two grounds: 1. I wouldn’t worry so much about what others eat 2. despite the prostetations of the pro-insult camp, bitching about someones appearance while claiming it has nothing to do with appearance are incongruent Now, I’m happy to accept that what her coworkers eat _is_ **DDJ** ’s business, and she has a duty to make sure that they share. But I still hold objection #2. I _will_ accept that one can disagree and find the rant damn funny. And I suppose I’ll just shut up about it. > [@](#): > > **The preferred method for doing this to quote her post line by line, inserting your own commentary after each brief quote.** Thanks for the fill-in. I though snarky sarcastic comments would be more effective. ---
**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2002, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-being-pc-regarding-certain-individuals-i-e-i-am-an-insensitive-bitch/103100/40 "2002-04-12T13:39:10Z")
Snarky comments are fine, but only the line by line dissection announces, “I’m here to argue about **everything**.” I should have mentioned that at least one of the mini-arguments should be purely on semantic grounds… Anyway, I’m glad to see you at least admit the guy is an ass. As for having more than one objection: sure, go nuts. My point was that your latter post seemed to contradict your former. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-being-pc-regarding-certain-individuals-i-e-i-am-an-insensitive-bitch/103100.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-being-pc-regarding-certain-individuals-i-e-i-am-an-insensitive-bitch/103100.md?page=3)