# I'm sick of this Global Warming!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 16, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440 "2013-08-16T18:57:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1981 "2014-02-24T03:00:30Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> Hey go spam that some more. That would be awesome. People love being spammed with nonsense,

Nonsense appears to be your avocation.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1982 "2014-02-24T03:04:38Z")

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Clearly you got here late to the game

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1983 "2014-02-24T12:49:19Z")

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Ok here comes the GIOG gallop again, first thing in the morning. It’s like clockwork. The only question is, which topic will he post in first? Will he read this before he responds with yet another wall of copy and paste nonsense? Will he make a point?

Will he comment on this post in another thread? Stay tuned. It’s the never ending energizer bunny of skepticalscience to the rescue.

And btw, everybody I know who lives up north is really sick of the global warming. Seriously, and with this next brutal cold coming, it’s not even funny at this point.

Meanwhile, in Florida, we are actually having one of the warmest, wettest, and enjoyable winters in recorded history.

Except for having to run the AC, because of the heat and humidity, it’s fantastic. Even the ocean is warm. Global warming, bring it on.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1984 "2014-02-24T13:21:54Z")

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The Pacific Northwest has been having a brutally frigid winter. Snow actually fell _ **twice** _. God, I hope the glaciers don’t start expanding again.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1985 "2014-02-24T13:27:33Z")

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I hate to tell ya, but glaciers on Mount St. Helens, Mt. Rainier, Mt. Shuksan, and Mount Shasta are expanding.

Don’t take my word for it, check and see.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1986 "2014-02-24T13:44:13Z")

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Some are, some aren’t. The issue is whether the glacier is mature yet. Some of these mountains are still hot, and that melts the snow off. On the other hand, Mt Hood in particular has her glacier retreating. So, it’s cause either by global warming or it’s a precursor to an eruptive event. No one can say for sure which.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1987 "2014-02-24T13:59:02Z")

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I could be wrong

> **[New Glaciers on Mount Hood?](https://wyeastblog.org/2009/07/19/new-glaciers-on-mount-hood/)**
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> It seems implausible, but climate change may be creating new glaciers on Mount Hood — but not in the usual way that glaciers are created. A close look at the retreating White River Glacier on…

glaciers change so fast you know.

I’ve heard they can move at a glacial pace.

haha

I made myself laugh

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1988 "2014-02-24T17:56:13Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> I’ve reformed since I found out I am going to die soon.

Huh. Me, I decided to up my game when I found that out. To each his own, I suppose.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1989 "2014-02-24T18:52:14Z")

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It all depends on the day.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1990 "2014-02-25T12:12:49Z")

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Last month was among the [WARMEST Januaries EVER RECORDED](http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/22/january_2014_third_or_fourth_warmest_january_ever_recorded/):

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> The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Agency (NOAA) says that first month of 2014 was the fourth warmest January in the past 135 years, while the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) ranks it number three.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1991 "2014-02-25T12:15:28Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Last month was among the [WARMEST Januaries EVER RECORDED](http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/22/january_2014_third_or_fourth_warmest_january_ever_recorded/):

Which is just so ironic. It’s one the coldest Januaries on record for the NH boreal winter. It may be the coldest January in US history for some locations.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1992 "2014-02-25T12:19:42Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> Which is just so ironic. It’s one the coldest Januaries on record for the NH boreal winter. It may be the coldest January in US history for some locations.

You really don’t understand the concept of “global”, do you…

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1993 "2014-02-25T12:29:54Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> You really don’t understand the concept of “global”, do you…

If you look at the “Land & Ocean Temperature Departure from Average” graphic there, the eastern US and Russia are signficantly colder than average. The rest of the world - not so much.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1994 "2014-02-25T12:41:51Z")

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In climate science, trends matter more than an anomaly. It’s why no one year or event is considered climate. It’s why saying “warmest January ever!” means very little, but looking at [a trend that shows large cooling](http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/nmaps.cgi?year_last=2014&month_last=1&sat=4&sst=3&type=trends&mean_gen=01&year1=2002&year2=2014&base1=1990&base2=2002&radius=250&pol=rob) does matter.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1995 "2014-02-25T12:42:51Z")

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Wait, wrong topic.

Goddamn it.

SCIENCE! BITCH!

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1996 "2014-02-25T12:47:06Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> In climate science, trends matter more than an anomaly. It’s why no one year or event is considered climate. It’s why saying “warmest January ever!” means very little, but looking at [a trend that shows large cooling](http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/nmaps.cgi?year_last=2014&month_last=1&sat=4&sst=3&type=trends&mean_gen=01&year1=2002&year2=2014&base1=1990&base2=2002&radius=250&pol=rob) does matter.

There’s a shit ton more orange and red on that map than there is blue. You have a knack for linking to cites that contradict your claims.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1997 "2014-02-25T12:53:42Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> In climate science, trends matter more than an anomaly.

[Suit yourself.](http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/21/science/earth/more-bite-left-to-winter-but-it-hasnt-been-as-bad-as-you-think.html?_r=0)

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> For people throughout the Eastern United States who spent January slipping, sliding and shivering, here is a counterintuitive fact: For the earth as a whole, it was the fourth-warmest January on record. **It was, in fact, the 347th consecutive month with temperatures above the 20th-century average** , the government reported Thursday.

SCIENCE! BITCH!

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1998 "2014-02-25T12:53:46Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> There’s a shit ton more orange and red on that map than there is blue. You have a knack for linking to cites that contradict your claims.

Then you are both a moron and unable to read a map.

[Look at the number that shows the trend.](http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/nmaps.cgi?year_last=2014&month_last=1&sat=4&sst=3&type=trends&mean_gen=01&year1=2002&year2=2014&base1=1990&base2=2002&radius=250&pol=pol)

See it? It says -.14 C

That is the global trend value for January.

That is the GLOBAL value.

Now look at the colors. the purple is -10 C

the darkest red is - 7 C

Get it? The colors are deceptive, but the math is not. Now next time, before you try to insult somebody, and act all smart and shit like that, get a fucking clue first.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1999 "2014-02-25T12:58:03Z")

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Global Average Temperatures have been rising for 10,000 years. Fourth warmest in 135 years breaks down to an event that occurs every 34 years … barely climatically significant.

Much much colder than the Miocene.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/2000 "2014-02-25T13:00:47Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> Now look at the colors. the purple is -10 C

Putin …

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