# I'm sick of this Global Warming!
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [August 16, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440 "2013-08-16T18:57:18Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2014, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/2181 "2014-03-19T12:32:34Z")
> [@magellan01](#):
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> [**FX, Watchwolf, Brazil,** could you two please accompany the nice officers.](http://www.infowars.com/college-professor-calls-for-climate-change-deniers-to-be-imprisoned/)
On the one hand, that’s a rather extreme if understandable position to hold.
On the other hand: **Alex Jones**? Seriously? Just link to the damn article itself.
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### Author:  [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2014, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/2182 "2014-03-19T13:29:42Z")
> [@Gyrate](#):
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> On the one hand, that’s a rather extreme if understandable position to hold.
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> On the other hand: **Alex Jones**? Seriously? Just link to the damn article itself.
Yeah, Alex Jones is a nutter, no doubt. But at least he reported on it. And his conspiracy nuttiness doesn’t take the crazy away from the douchebag professor. There seems to be plenty to go around.
On a more serious note, it’s dangerous when this stuff gets to be the religion it has become. next thing you know they’ll be burning books that question some aspect of climate change. Hell, I bet that nutty professor would love that.
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### Author:  [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2014, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/2183 "2014-03-19T13:41:42Z")
> [@magellan01](#):
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> [**FX, Watchwolf, Brazil,** could you two please accompany the nice officers.](http://www.infowars.com/college-professor-calls-for-climate-change-deniers-to-be-imprisoned/)
Lol, that’s funny. By the way, I suspect what he really means is that people who question the Sacred (But Undefined) Theory of Global Warming should be prosecuted.
For example, **Septimus** seems to have told a blatant lie in the other thread concerning the long-term relationship of temperatures and CO2. Would The Nutty Professor want **Septimus** to be prosecuted? Somehow I doubt it.
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### Author:  [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2014, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/2184 "2014-03-19T14:30:32Z")
> [@brazil84](#):
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> I’m not sure if the American Academy of Pediatrics is qualified to make expert pronouncements on global warming, but I did notice this:
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> Do you agree with this assertion?
They trust science, unlike you chucklefucks sitting in your own sick and tut-tutting about how your layperson gumption allows you to overturn the vast agreement of thousands of peer-reviewed works.
You’re just the town fool wearing a broken pot he found as a crown.
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### Author:  [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2014, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/2185 "2014-03-19T15:04:31Z")
> [@magellan01](#):
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> [**FX, Watchwolf, Brazil,** could you two please accompany the nice officers.](http://www.infowars.com/college-professor-calls-for-climate-change-deniers-to-be-imprisoned/)
If you were trying to create an Onion piece, it would be hard to beat that blog for parody.
> **[Is misinformation about the climate criminally negligent?](https://theconversation.com/is-misinformation-about-the-climate-criminally-negligent-23111)**
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> The importance of clearly communicating science to the public should not be underestimated. Accurately understanding our natural environment and sharing that information can be a matter of life or death…
To be fair, the blogger is talking about wanting “organizations” that seek to sway public opinion to be liable for criminal action by the GOVERNMENT. In essence, if an organized group of people “lie and deceive”, he wants that to be a crime. Can you imagine any government passing a law that makes **publicly deceiving people** a crime? Like anyone in power is going to open that door.
Meanwhile, the stupid continues on that blog.
> [@](#):
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> Among the report’s chapters are topics that are lightning rods for those sceptical of climate change. For example the significance of carbon dioxide, the role of the Sun’s heating of the Earth, shrinking Arctic ice vs growing Antarctic ice, the temperature increase required to bring about substantial climate change and the speed at which it may happen. [Bid to explain climate change risks losing the argument](https://theconversation.com/bid-to-explain-climate-change-risks-losing-the-argument-23903)
So the things that are actually happening, those are “lightning rods” for skeptics. I noticed he left out “that the global mean hasn’t gone up for 17 years” from the list of things skeptics like to debate.
Meanwhile, hows that global warming doing in Chicago?
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### Author:  [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2014, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/2186 "2014-03-19T16:10:33Z")
> [@Lobohan](#):
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> They trust science, unlike you chucklefucks sitting in your own sick and tut-tutting about how your layperson gumption allows you to overturn the vast agreement of thousands of peer-reviewed works.
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> You’re just the town fool wearing a broken pot he found as a crown.
Just show me one peer-reviewed scientific paper that **proves** hypercanes will happen. Hell, just show me a peer-reviewed scientific paper that even describes what a hypercane is.
I’d rather be a fool with a rat-scepter than an obedient peasant.
As far as being arrested, come and get me fuckers, I dare you.
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### Author:  [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2014, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/2187 "2014-03-19T16:55:32Z")
So, hows that global warming working out in Chicago?
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### Author:  [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2014, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/2188 "2014-03-19T16:57:25Z")
Aw, I’m so glad you’re back. I missed you.
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### Author:  [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2014, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/2189 "2014-03-19T17:03:00Z")
The ineffable humor is that if this year, like the 2012 winter, was an anomaly, unseasonably warm, mild and sunny, the alarmists fuckheads would be coming all over each other saying it’s global warming.
> [@](#):
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> Does global warming have anything to do with the fact that Chicago might break a January record for high temperatures today? Yes, probably, and probably not. It depends on what you’re asking, and whom.
> **[Chicago Clocks 9th Warmest Winter Ever: Report](https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-winter-9th-warmest-ever/2068920/)**
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> Local averages this year were 32.8 degrees.
Let’s listen to a fuckhead in action.
> [@](#):
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> Extreme weather years like 2010 and 2011 are very likely to increase in frequency, since there is a delay of several decades between when we put heat-trapping gases into the atmosphere and when the climate fully responds. This is because Earth’s oceans take so long to heat up when extra heat is added to the atmosphere (think about how long it takes it takes for a lake to heat up during summer.) Due to this lag, we are just now experiencing the full effect of CO2 emitted in the late 1980s; since CO2 has been increasing by 1 - 3% per year since then, there is a lot more climate change “in the pipeline” we cannot avoid.
[http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/The-312/January-2012/Chicagos-Warm-Winter-Weather-and-Global-Warming/](http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/The-312/January-2012/Chicagos-Warm-Winter-Weather-and-Global-Warming/)
Since the winter trend is actually quite easy to see in the Chicago region, what he is saying is complete bullshit. It’s ignorant. An actual Meteorologist would check and then tell you what has happened, and why we can expect colder winters for Chicago and other areas.
A mild warm winter would be the exception.
And it’s not “extreme weather events”, it’s a goddamn cold winter. It’s not a “cold snap”. it’s not “extreme weather”, it’s pretty much the same as past cold winters.
The denial is strong in some, when it comes to facing reality.
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### Author:  [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2014, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/2190 "2014-03-19T20:59:42Z")
We set a record high temperature yesterday, the hottest March 18th in the past year. I’m expecting 700 foot tidal waves any minute now.
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### Author:  [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)
#### Post date: [March 20, 2014, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/2191 "2014-03-20T00:05:16Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> The denial is strong in some, when it comes to facing reality.
Well the warmers are great at post-diction, i.e. looking at weather and climate data after the fact and explaining how it’s consistent with the Sacred (But Undefined) Theory of Global Warming.
But they are not so great at making actual bona fide specific and interesting predictions which come to pass.
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### Author:  [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)
#### Post date: [March 20, 2014, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/2192 "2014-03-20T07:00:58Z")
(evidently the left one isn’t working that well)
Once again, would you remind responding to Post 2133?
Thanks!
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### Author:  [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)
#### Post date: [March 20, 2014, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/2193 "2014-03-20T09:08:59Z")
Let’s say for the sake of argument that the whole thing is a huge lie.
Meh, at least we’ll get more efficient power sources, vehicles and appliances as a result, ideally.
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### Author:  [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)
#### Post date: [March 20, 2014, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/2194 "2014-03-20T09:48:27Z")
If only that were true.
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### Author:  [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)
#### Post date: [March 20, 2014, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/2195 "2014-03-20T10:36:03Z")
I dunno, hybrid cars are a tad nifty.
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### Author:  [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)
#### Post date: [March 20, 2014, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/2196 "2014-03-20T11:44:23Z")
> [@brazil84](#):
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> Well the warmers are great at post-diction, i.e. looking at weather and climate data after the fact and explaining how it’s consistent with the Sacred (But Undefined) Theory of Global Warming.
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> But they are not so great at making actual bona fide specific and interesting predictions which come to pass.
In fairness, GIGO’s latest moved-goalposts claim seems to fit the bill: he says we’ll see at least a tenth-of-a-degree rise per decade, which (a) strikes me as both specific and interesting, and (b) can be vindicated, or proven false, in relatively short order.
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### Author:  [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)
#### Post date: [March 20, 2014, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/2197 "2014-03-20T12:18:39Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> The ineffable humor is that if this year, like the 2012 winter, was an anomaly, unseasonably warm, mild and sunny, the alarmists fuckheads would be coming all over each other saying it’s global warming.
Ah, now it begins to make sense. You’ve been badly misled as to what “humor” is.
Maybe we should start again from the beginning.
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### Author:  [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)
#### Post date: [March 20, 2014, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/2198 "2014-03-20T16:08:34Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I dunno, hybrid cars are a tad nifty.
I love them, and I love the Tesla even more. There is little doubt now the powerful forces against Tesla (and anyone else trying to sell an electric car) are motivated directly by money. The threat of electric cars, especially ones like the Tesla, that offer free charging powered by solar energy, are an absolute threat to the profits of the POWERS THAT RUN THE WORLD (TPTRTW).
It’s the same for anyone actually doing something about making solar energy easy and affordable to use. TPTRTW are against anything that threatens them, and they fight dirty, hard, and to win. They always have.
From the now almost dead other thread:
> [@What can be done (climate change debate)?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-can-be-done-climate-change-debate/683384/166):
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> I think other concerns–even environmental ones–will push ACC off the radar unless a series of warm-direction disasters start showing up.
As I said before, even if CO2 is going to make it colder, the oceans are a real concern for the level of CO2 that is happening. We need to know, with experiments, what high levels of CO2 will do to sea life. (it may end up increasing it, we simply do not know)
> [@What can be done (climate change debate)?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-can-be-done-climate-change-debate/683384/166):
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> (I get it, by the way, that anything too cold is “weather” while hot things are climate. 😉 My point is that every winter like the one the US midwest just had moves Joe Public a little further away from acting Right Now.
Not if the current effort to “blame” colder winters on global warming pay off. Don’t laugh, the idiot public will buy almost anything if “the consensus” and enough FUD is used on them.
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### Author:  [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)
#### Post date: [March 20, 2014, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/2199 "2014-03-20T17:00:50Z")
Nuclear power is nifty, too.
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### Author:  [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)
#### Post date: [March 20, 2014, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/2200 "2014-03-20T17:31:16Z")
I’d like to think that if mankind had spent the money spent on war and horrors, on developing thorium reactors instead, we might be seeing clean inexpensive nuclear power instead of coal.
The current nuclear reactors and central power generation is dangerous, expensive, and just more of the same old fashioned mindset that considers 5 billion dollars for a reactor a good idea, but five billion dollars to add solar power, and insulate buildings, to be wasteful. Even when 5 billion dollars would reduce power use so the reactor isn’t needed.
It’s not just TPTRTW that hate solar and wind, even those who profess fear and concern over AGW fight against wind turbines, as well as simply not installing solar for themselves, even when they can easily afford it.
People are funny when it comes to them spending THEIR OWN MONEY, but quite willing to demand that “they” have to change. It’s like, **Those “other people” need to do something, but don’t ask me to change a thing**.
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