# I'm sick of this Global Warming! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 16, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440 "2013-08-16T18:57:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 165
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3281 "2014-11-04T02:22:54Z")
Troll, troll, troll away! ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3282 "2014-11-04T02:41:06Z")
Turns out global warming really can make you sick. > [@](#): > > Thornton pauses, takes a breath. “It still gets me, five years later. That’s when I lost hope that we were able to save ourselves from self-destruction. That’s when I lost hope that we would survive as a species. It made me more susceptible to what I call ‘climate depression’.” Read more: [A climate of despair](http://www.smh.com.au/national/a-climate-of-despair-20140813-102r1w.html#ixzz3I40m5O9E) > [@](#): > > Journals have published papers with titles such as “The Debilitating Disease of Climate Alarmism” and “A Climate of Suffering”. > > Six years ago, a dehydrated 17-year-old boy was brought into the Royal Children’s Hospital, refusing to drink water. He believed having a drink would somehow contribute to the global shortage of potable water, and became the first diagnosed case of “climate change delusion”. I’m just ahead of the curve. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3283 "2014-11-04T02:55:21Z")
Desperate, is all. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3284 "2014-11-04T03:26:45Z")
At least we have a diagnoses for it now. “I’m suffering from ‘climate depression’ thanks to global warming” ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3285 "2014-11-04T03:52:50Z")
> [@](#): > > For the first time, a research team has been able to reconstruct the solar activity at the end of the last ice age, around 20,000-10,000 years ago, by analysing trace elements in ice cores in Greenland and cave formations from China. During the last glacial maximum, Sweden was covered in a thick ice sheet that stretched all the way down to northern Germany and sea levels were more than 100 metres lower than they are today, because the water was frozen in the extensive ice caps. The new study shows that the sun’s variation influences the climate in a similar way regardless of whether the climate is extreme, as during the Ice Age, or as it is today. Read more at: [Sun's activity influences natural climate change](http://phys.org/news/2014-08-sun-natural-climate.html#jCp) Obviously these are climate deniers. > [@](#): > > Climate change has not been strongly influenced by variations in heat from the sun, a new scientific study shows. > > The findings overturn a widely held scientific view that lengthy periods of warm and cold weather in the past might have been caused by periodic fluctuations in solar activity. > **[Solar activity not a key cause of climate change, study shows](https://phys.org/news/2013-12-solar-key-climate.html)** > > Climate change has not been strongly influenced by variations in heat from the sun, a new scientific study shows. That’s better. How stupid can you get? Thinking the sun could cause climate changes? Only man can do that. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3286 "2014-11-04T04:44:46Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Here’s some more science! that will of course be seen as trolling by the fuckhead warmer. ( **Here’s a clue, I could give a fuck what they think** ) (bolding mine) Who do you think you’re fooling? Seriously, you can’t actually believe that, can you? ---
**Author:** ![AlienVessels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@AlienVessels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlienVessels)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3287 "2014-11-04T05:57:43Z")
He’s so frothing now that even if nobody posts, he’ll anecdote the hell out of the pieces of froth. I’m looking forward to his next thread tearing apart the Theory of Evolution. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3288 "2014-11-04T06:32:34Z")
> [@AlienVessels](#): > > He’s so frothing now that even if nobody posts, he’ll anecdote the hell out of the pieces of froth. At this point it’s just public masturbation. More pathetic than anything else. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2014, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3289 "2014-11-07T19:37:10Z")
Largest storm ever recorded threatens Alaska with 50 foot waves. > **[Strongest Storm in the World to Approach Alaska](https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-blogs/weathermatrix/strongest-storm-in-the-world-to-approach-alaska/36942007)** > > Is this Jupiter's "red spot?" No, but it might be the most intense storm on Earth this year, and perhaps in recorded history for the Bering Strait and Alaska. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2014, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3290 "2014-11-08T19:34:45Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Largest storm ever recorded threatens Alaska with 50 foot waves. That’s the spirit. But you have to blame it on global warming. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2014, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3291 "2014-11-08T19:35:59Z")
If you can’t think of anything, here is a list of things global warming has caused, or will cause. [The short list](http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/globalwarming2.html) It will make you sick. Especially the extinctions! Human , civilisation, logic , Inuit , smallest butterfly , cod, ladybirds , pikas , polar bears, possums , walrus, toads , plants , salmon , trout , wild flowers , woodlice , a million species , half of all animal and plant species, mountain species , not polar bears , barrier reef , leaches , salamanders , tropical insects, and probably more. If that doesn’t scare the money out of your pants, what will? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2014, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3292 "2014-11-09T17:19:48Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > [A Complete List Of Things Supposedly Caused By Global Warming](http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/globalwarming2.html) I see you’ve graduated to that noted science journal [What Really Happened](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/What_Really_Happened). I would ask that this place ban you for your bullshit, but it’s funny seeing the depths you have sunk. This place is a noose that you willingly stick your head in at this point. I’ll just join the chorus pointing and laughing. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2014, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3293 "2014-11-09T17:49:36Z")
> [@](#): > > Millions of people in America and northern Europe are still battling snow and ice, wondering why they are being punished with bitter cold when – officially – spring has arrived and Earth is in the grip of global warming. > > Yet some scientists, eyeing the fourth year in a row of exceptionally harsh late-winter weather in parts of Europe and North America, suggest **warming is precisely the problem**. [Weather News | Weather Underground](http://www.wunderground.com/news/global-warming-winters-20130328) Sunday 26 October 2014 > [@](#): > > **The risk of severe winters in Europe and northern Asia has been doubled by global warming** , according to new research. The counter-intuitive finding is the result of climate change melting the Arctic ice cap and causing new wind patterns that push freezing air and snow southwards. [Global warming has doubled risk of harsh winters in Eurasia, research finds | Climate crisis | The Guardian](http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/oct/26/global-warming-has-doubled-risk-harsh-winters-eurasia-research-finds) Global warming really can do anything. If the winters were milder, with less snow and ice, that would also be proof of global warming. In essence we have a pseudo-scientific view of weather, which isn’t surprising. Mankind has always wanted to blame the weather (or floods, or drought, or pestilence) on human beings doing something “wrong”. Now that it’s backed by Science! and the majority, you can’t even argue against the concept. Colder, warmer, drier, wetter, more storms, fewer storms, it’s all because of mankind. Or rather you. That’s right, you caused the latest winter storm. Or at least increased the odds of it happening. Those still pimping the very idea that all the changes in weather, or climate, are directly caused by mankind, you sound like a religious nutcase. Seriously. It’s that ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2014, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3294 "2014-11-09T20:05:06Z")
Just when I thought you couldn’t be more pathetic. Well done! Here, hang on, I think this might be about your speed: [http://www.rense.com/general88/myths.htm](http://www.rense.com/general88/myths.htm) Or maybe this: [http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/tag/global-warming-scam/](http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/tag/global-warming-scam/) ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2014, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3295 "2014-11-09T20:33:07Z")
Global Warming, gradual heating of the earth’s temperature caused largely by mankind’s emission of greenhouse gases, and a process that can only be reversed if, oops, never mind, because we actually just now passed the exact point of ever being able to undo the horrifying effects of climate change. According to climatologists, rising CO2 levels must be contained before it is too late, which it now is, or the world populace will experience severe food shortages, widespread drought, and the mass extinction of thousands of plant and animal species. Climate change is also believed to be responsible for the thawing of the polar ice caps—the melting of which is irreversible as of eight seconds ago—and will in turn lead to the incomprehensibly destructive flooding of the entire Eastern Seaboard of the United States in 60 years. Well, 59 years, 364 days, 23 hours, and 59 minutes. In order to reduce one’s own impact, experts recommend using energy-efficient products, carpooling to work, and not relying on air-conditioning so much, though they may as well recommend taking out a gun and shooting yourself in the fucking head right now, because by the time you finish reading this, any fleeting hope of somehow changing this collision course with global destruction will be forever lost, and we all need to face the fact that everyone and everything we’ve ever loved will soon be annihilated by the raging forces of nature, and that civilization itself will either be wiped out or plunged into anarchy as we all stand by helplessly, waiting to drown, die of starvation, or burn to death. [source](http://www.theonion.com/topics/global-warming/) ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2014, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3296 "2014-11-09T20:44:42Z")
But can we reverse your stupidity? ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2014, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3297 "2014-11-09T20:49:18Z")
Clearly you have just delivered a brutal response to those who thought you couldn’t sink any deeper for your sources. Well done, using the Onion, well done. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2014, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3298 "2014-11-10T02:45:00Z")
Ah well, back to the Science! > [@GIGObuster](#): > > Everyone should just read post #139 to see that FX “point” now is to concentrate on cold records in a sorry attempt at discrediting others while ignoring the overall picture. > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16619187&postcount=139](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16619187&postcount=139) Oh that Gigogalloper, compared to the trolls here you shine like a rising star. The discussion of records from before is about “breaking the all time record” for a station, the max temp for a single day, or max low, there is an assumption that this not only happens all the time, but it would be a 50/50 chance event if climate was “normal”. [http://www.climatecentral.org/blogs/more-heat-records-compared-to-cold-records](http://www.climatecentral.org/blogs/more-heat-records-compared-to-cold-records) > [@GIGObuster](#): > > So, back in 2009 this was reported by Meehle 2009: > > [Record high temperatures versus record lows](http://www.skepticalscience.com/Record-high-temperatures-versus-record-lows.html) > > So what do we got now? Last year in the USA the warm records reached 90% of the incidents vs 10% for the cold records. > > [http://www.climatecentral.org/blogs/more-heat-records-compared-to-cold-records/](http://www.climatecentral.org/blogs/more-heat-records-compared-to-cold-records/) > > As usual, on this discussions, that does not mean that we will go higher automatically on 2013, I have seen so many fluctuations in the short range that I do expect the difference to become more moderate this year, but it would be very hard to see the same ratio as it was seen in the 50’s and yes, we are still bound to see a good number of cold records still, but the big picture is telling us that the warming is not going away. Now this is where it is actually impossible to get a screaming batshit crazy alarmists to commit, because they are slippery, like any good palm reader or religious prophet, they simply change their story as circumstances change. If they didn’t move the goalposts, something like this would be an excellent thing to discuss. For those who also ignore and refuse to even read a single thing, and also because the quote function doesn’t quote quotes, here’s the money shot from [the SS blog](http://www.skepticalscience.com/Record-high-temperatures-versus-record-lows.html) > [@](#): > > So we see that even during global warming, cold days are expected. However, there’s a much greater chance of daily record highs instead of lows. **This tendency towards hotter days is expected to increase as global warming continues into the 21st Century.** And yes, they use the US temperatures to “prove” how global warming is steamrollering along, crushing records before it. Here it is again. [News | NCAR & UCAR News](https://www2.ucar.edu/atmosnews/news/1036/record-high-temperatures-far-outpace-record-lows-across-us) > [@](#): > > November 12, 2009 > BOULDER—Spurred by a warming climate, daily record high temperatures occurred twice as often as record lows over the last decade across the continental United States, new research shows. **The ratio of record highs to lows is likely to increase dramatically in coming decades if emissions of greenhouse gases continue to climb.** > > “ **Climate change is making itself felt in terms of day-to-day weather in the United States** ,” says Gerald Meehl, the lead author and a senior scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR). “The ways these records are being broken show how our climate is already shifting.” He means of course, global warming, and the expected shifts show how right global warming actually is. So we have a solid actual claim, which of course supports global warming, using US records. the [USHCN](http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/data-access/land-based-station-data/land-based-datasets/us-historical-climatology-network-ushcn) to be exact. “The USHCN is a designated subset of the NOAA Cooperative Observer Program (COOP) Network with sites selected according to their spatial coverage, record length, data completeness, and historical stability”, which makes it the best choice for climate research. So here is a concrete claim, and one that seems to make sense, even if there hasn’t been any experiments to prove it would happen. Of course as soon as you actually go to the US HCN data, take the really hot days, all of them, and the really cold days, and plot it out, like up until Aug 2014, [it looks like this](http://i.imgur.com/08UW8Xk.png). Which is exactly where the wheels fall off. Because here we have evidence that shows something else must be happening. Rather than rely on assumptions, or hypothesis, it’s just what the actual data shows happened. The really cold days show, somewhat, a pattern that is expected, if the US climate is warming. Fewer really cold days, especially compared to the very cold winters of the 60s and 70s. Remember the assumption is fewer cold days, and more warm ones. This is greenhouse warming. But then you see the data for really hot days, and it doesn’t match at all. In fact, the actual data clearly shows that compared to the past, things are not getting warmer at all, in the long run. In fact, this year has been the year with the least really hot days since records for the USN network started keeping records. Not that it means a lot, but the huge amount of really cold days also means this has been one the coldest, if not the coolest year ever. According to the data. Using the Chicago areas as example, [it really has been one of the coldest years](http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/time-series/us/11/02/tmax/9/08/1895-2014?base_prd=true&firstbaseyear=1901&lastbaseyear=2000) (up until August), [which shows up in all the data sets](http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/time-series/us/11/02/tmin/9/08/1895-2014?base_prd=true&firstbaseyear=1901&lastbaseyear=2000). [Note how warm 2012 was](http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/time-series/us/11/02/tavg/9/08/1895-2014?base_prd=true&firstbaseyear=1901&lastbaseyear=2000), it shows up clearly as well. What does it mean? What does the future hold? Those are the questions people actually want the answers to. Not the idiot spreading alarm, they already know all the answers. But the people who live in the real world, they would like to know. [Here’s the last 9 months for the Chicago area.](http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/time-series/us/11/02/tavg/9/09/1895-2014?base_prd=true&firstbaseyear=1901&lastbaseyear=2000) And just for laughs, [the winter data, showing minimum temps](http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/time-series/us/11/02/tmin/3/02/1895-2014). ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2014, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3299 "2014-11-10T03:15:11Z")
Pathetic starving troll. It must be very frustrating for a troll when no one has fed him for months and months, no matter how hard he tries. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2014, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3300 "2014-11-10T04:23:01Z")
Incidentally, in a indication of just how pathetic and desperate he’s getting, he’s had to quote **GIGObuster** from more than a year ago in an effort to provoke some response. I’m quite gratified that no one has dignified this troll with a substantive response for many months. He’s so ignorant, disingenuous, and ludicrous that everyone can see he’s not worth responding to. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440.md?page=164) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440.md?page=166)