# I'm sick of this Global Warming! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 16, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440 "2013-08-16T18:57:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 170
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3381 "2014-11-19T22:46:56Z")
Yeah, but it wasn’t me handing out the candy. > [@andros](#): > > I don’t give a ratfuck about what you choose to believe or not. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3382 "2014-11-19T22:53:04Z")
I’ve been very clear that I consider it my sacred duty to keep you here and posting. I’m willing to throw all the candy it takes. I mean, I tried with **brazil** , but then I think he put me on ignore. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3383 "2014-11-19T23:05:03Z")
> [@andros](#): > > I’ve been very clear that I consider it my sacred duty to keep you here and posting. Well you did a terrible job then. Because according to Mod Colibri, it was months that went by with out anyone posting. I mean, I posted on 10-21-2014, 03:00 PM then you never responded, and I next posted on 11-03-2014, 10:49 AM Then Colibri claims on 11-03-2014, 07:41 PM > [@Colibri](#): > > It’s been months now See? You are doing a terrible job, and Colibri is a liar, but that’s OK. Trolls are required to lie, it’s part of trolling. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3384 "2014-11-19T23:09:41Z")
Aw, that was weak. Simple twisting of someone’s words, with a truncated post half-gainer? You’re better than that. ☹ But I think he’s right; I have not been providing you with anything but junk food. I’ll see about fixing that. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3385 "2014-11-19T23:14:14Z")
Yeah, you used to at least try to troll. Now you are half assed about even that. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3386 "2014-11-19T23:27:25Z")
☹ Yeah. I’ve been phoning it in lately. Tell you what: I’ll try to bring my A game if you promise to do the same. ETA: Crap. I’m sorry. I just can’t make that commitment right now. . ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3387 "2014-11-19T23:35:09Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Crap. I’m sorry. I just can’t make that commitment right now. That’s a national tragedy Before when some assclown labeled other people trolls, he got schooled and left the topic. I liked how he was confronted. > [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#): > > Can you point to one specific instance of what you say is bullshit and explain why it is? Of course the person yelling troll didn’t respond. > [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#): > > Again the challenge. One bullshit statment I’ve made and prove it. It’s what trolls do, they run when confronted. > [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Because, as I recently put it right here in this thread, _the one making the claim is of course the one who should define his terms._ Or, like the man said, _ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them._ That is such an important concept, and it was right here in this topic too. > [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > I’m troubled by folks who make incorrect claims that can be proven wrong – but I’m far more troubled by Not Even Wrong types who make claims that can’t possibly be proven incorrect. > > The former is a mote, as mere falsehood can simply be countered with truth; it’s a cliché that sunlight is the best disinfectant. The latter is a solid plank; confront it with truth in the harsh light of day, it remains intact and untouched. Facts can defeat the former; the latter is immune, and therefore horrifying. Yes indeed. It’s even worse when the actual issue just may be the fate of mankind. “Facts can defeat the former; the latter is immune, and therefore horrifying.” That is the thing I speak of, when I say “facts are the last thing that will matter” ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3388 "2014-11-19T23:56:36Z")
Well, shit. Am I not a troll, then, because I haven’t run when confronted? Or have I not been confronted? Or… …have I been running all along? (Just blew your mind, huh? Boom.) ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3389 "2014-11-19T23:59:33Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > We now return you to the regularly scheduled parade of assclowns chanting “troll!” For example: [QUOTE=FXMastermind] [Or you are trolling.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16578983&postcount=47) [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=FXMastermind] [I don’t even think he realizes it’s\a kind of trolling.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16646440&postcount=299) [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=FXMastermind] [It’s a troll post.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16654455&postcount=388) [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=FXMastermind] [Or you are trolling](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16656384&postcount=401) [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=FXMastermind] [Now, don’t you think a veiled wish for two members to take up a hobby that just had a horrible public death, don’t you think that is a clever way to troll?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16656557&postcount=403) [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=FXMastermind] [Now some people might want to give the troll a free vacation in Belize](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16656557&postcount=403) [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=FXMastermind] [but I think he should get a gold star for being a clever troll.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16656557&postcount=403) [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=FXMastermind] [Poking a pathetic troll like Gigogallop has no pay off.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16662750&postcount=477) [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3390 "2014-11-20T00:11:59Z")
Thanks. I know how much time that took. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3391 "2014-11-20T01:00:00Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > [Moderating] > **statij** , changing another poster’s text inside a quote box, or attributing things to them that they never said in a quote box, are against the rules of the SDMB. Please avoid doing this in the future. > > No warning issued. > [/Moderating] If **FXMastermind** and **FX** are the same user then they should be banned for being sock-puppets. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3392 "2014-11-20T03:44:11Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Aw, that was weak. Simple twisting of someone’s words, with a truncated post half-gainer? Nope, and the entire time (like two weeks) he tries to tell everyone I was “starving for attention”, or whatever his idiot claim is, I was going at it with GIGO in the GD topic. Call me a masochist, [but it beats watching TV](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17898431&postcount=591) Yes, that short period (which he calls months) it was [a constant back and forth with GIGO](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17832192&postcount=451), which is a never ending battle you know. He either is ignorant of this, or he’s a liar, either way it’s trolling. When you are reduced to nothing but calling names, you pretty much lost the debate. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3393 "2014-11-20T03:50:27Z")
> [@jimbuff314](#): > > For somebody’s sake, people, this has turned into a tragedy of monumental scope over the last fifteen (_15_) months!! It’s actually so much larger than that. Most of the arguments are, or have been taking place in other topics. If you only read here you get a very small part of the clusterfuck that is pretty much any discussion of climate in any way. > [@Is global warming falsifiable?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-global-warming-falsifiable/687786/476): > > It’s a never ending source of entertainment, even when it looks like multi-train accident. > > “We have to act now to stop dangerous global warming, and the cause is using fossil fuels, so we must reduce fuel use. Global warming is now irrefutable, we know with confidence that unless we take drastic steps, dangerous warming will continue.” > > Hold up there Sparky. What do you mean by global warming? > > “You are obviously a denier, the same as somebody who thinks the world is flat, smoking is good for you, and evolution doesn’t exist” > > What the fuck are you talking about? I asked you a simple question. > > “Go read the latest IPCC report, it’s all in there. I’m done trying to explain things to you” > > OK then, good luck with that. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3394 "2014-11-20T04:26:15Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > that short period (which he calls months) Point of order: He said you hadn’t had “solid food” in months. You have so far failed to define that term. Bam! Gotcha-ya! ---
**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3395 "2014-11-21T02:39:50Z")
ITT: Hilarity ensues when an autodidact (cf._uneducated buffoon_) gets on his computer and types the word _science_ repeatedly, for no good reason. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3396 "2014-11-21T18:06:06Z")
> [@andros](#): > > You have so far failed to define that term. Now that is some trolling. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3397 "2014-11-21T18:19:21Z")
There is a very good reason to be upset over stupid claims, because they sound stupid. The thing is, sometimes in science! something that sounds wrong, is actually what is happening. > [@Marley23](#): > > The ‘it was cold today, therefore no global warming!’ argument is the stupidest possible argument on the subject > [@FXMastermind](#): > > I’m pretty sure saying ‘it was cold today, therefore it’s global warming’ sounds even worse. > [@](#): > > But how does a colder winter support the idea of a warming earth? It’s really simple when you look at the evidence. [Global Warming and Cold Winters](http://www.skepticalscience.com/Global-Warming-Cold-Winters.html) (2011) > [@](#): > > Cold Winters Driven By Global Warming [http://news.discovery.com/earth/cold-winter-snow-weather-global-warming-101222.htm](http://news.discovery.com/earth/cold-winter-snow-weather-global-warming-101222.htm) 2010 The really cold winters effecting the NH started in 2005, but it took 5 years before the meme of global warming causing them took hold. If there had been just a couple of cold winters, it would be handwaved away as “natural variation”, or “there will still be the occasional cold winter”, which was actually the case until 21010, when that started sounding really fucked up. Now with a decade of mostly cold and brutal NH winters, the cold is BECAUSE of global warming. The scientific problem with this is simple. If the last decade was one of warmer mild winters, that would also be explained as global warming. At which point it’s SCIENCE! ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3398 "2014-11-21T19:35:15Z")
I can’t wait for Global Warming to kick in because it’s been damn cold lately. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3399 "2014-11-21T19:55:11Z")
The average temperature over the entire planet for this year is expected to be the highest ever, [so says the NOAA](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/11/20/earth-on-track-to-warmest-year-on-record-says-noaa/). ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/3400 "2014-11-21T20:23:36Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > The average temperature over the entire planet for this year is expected to be the highest ever, [so says the NOAA](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/11/20/earth-on-track-to-warmest-year-on-record-says-noaa/). Which means Mother Nature is trolling the fuck out of North America right now. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440.md?page=169) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440.md?page=171)