# I'm sick of this Global Warming! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 16, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440 "2013-08-16T18:57:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/361 "2013-09-10T14:50:29Z")
I’m guessing nobody has ever bothered to take the SS blog to task. It’s pretty much ignored, or a laughing stock among climate researchers. I can see why. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/362 "2013-09-10T14:51:19Z")
Let’s _everyone_ go Gish Galloping, too! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/363 "2013-09-10T14:52:02Z")
search for water vapor feedback on the SS blog ‘water vapor feedback’ was not found in the dictionary of terms. No surprise at this point. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/364 "2013-09-10T14:55:51Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Bullshit. Which seems to be your increasingly desperate tactic to defend your blog. > > [Newcomers, Start Here](http://www.skepticalscience.com/Newcomers-Start-Here.html) > > You see once again why they never define any theory, or even explain one. The site also completely avoids explaining the mechanism by which CO2 is thought to lead to global warming. > > It’s right there on the newcomer page. > > **Contrary to what you may have heard, the case for man-made global warming doesn’t hang on theory** Thank you for showing all that the one that has reading comprehension problems is you. That helps me more than you. It is a resource, not a dictionary. And that is why even scientists recommend their use (did I mentioned that you lied when you claimed that it was not true that scientists did so?). ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/365 "2013-09-10T15:42:56Z")
Are you arguing with a website or with global warming? Maybe you should get your story straight, FX ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/366 "2013-09-10T15:44:32Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > I’m guessing nobody has ever bothered to take the SS blog to task. It’s pretty much ignored, or a laughing stock among climate researchers. > > I can see why. A demonstrated lie too, it is not ignored and many times it is very useful. This SDMB poster, Joel, boasted that he would show how his superior cite was so good that he would point at the huge flaw in the Skeptical Science comments. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15441070&postcount=119](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15441070&postcount=119) There was nothing left but the feathers after more knowledgeable posters showed him how wrong he was. > **[Matt Ridley - Wired for Lukewarm Catastrophe](https://skepticalscience.com/news.php?p=2&t=53&&n=1586)** > > Note: this post has been quoted in the November 2012 issue of WIRED magazine. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/367 "2013-09-10T16:18:19Z")
> [@Cheshire\_Human](#): > > Let’s _everyone_ go Gish Galloping, too! :rolleyes: I’m going to call it a Gigo Gallop from now on. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/368 "2013-09-10T16:20:54Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > Are you arguing with a website or with global warming? Maybe you should get your story straight, FX > [@I hereby pit the gang of hypocritical deniers "debating" GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hereby-pit-the-gang-of-hypocritical-deniers-debating-gigobuster/595281/455): > > I’m watching almost the exact same thing happen on another forum. The person proposing they are 100% right and “the science is settled” simply refuses to say what the science is, what is 100% settled, what the consensus is. Things haven’t changed much. I’m not arguing much of anything. Just making fun of idiots. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/369 "2013-09-10T16:25:20Z")
It’s sort of funny watching Gigogallop right now. The one thing SS doesn’t have, is a canned response to anyone pointing out the unscientific nature of SS He can’t find an answer in the skepticalscience app Hence his strange change in behavior. Usually we get a couple of SS links and a wall of text. A Gigo gallop. But this latest stuff, it doesn’t seem like Gigo at all. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/370 "2013-09-10T16:29:01Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > It’s sort of funny watching Gigogallop right now. The one thing SS doesn’t have, is a canned response to anyone pointing out the unscientific nature of SS > > He can’t find an answer in the skepticalscience app > > Hence his strange change in behavior. > > Usually we get a couple of SS links and a wall of text. A Gigo gallop. But this latest stuff, it doesn’t seem like Gigo at all. Who are you trying to convince? Yourself? 'Cause from the outside, it looks like \*\*GIGO \*\*is kinda kicking your butt. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/371 "2013-09-10T17:02:07Z")
> [@Lightnin](#): > > 'Cause from the outside, Lol, as if you haven’t posted in many threads on the warmist side of the issue. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/372 "2013-09-10T17:03:20Z")
> [@Lightnin](#): > > 'Cause from the outside, it looks like \*\*GIGO \*\*is kinda kicking your butt. I can think of two ways to respond to a turd in the punch bowl like that. > [@Global warming v weather shift](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/global-warming-v-weather-shift/632050/41): > > Sorry, but that is not a peer reviewed article Which is pretty funny, but it might go over your head. Maybe > [@I hereby pit the gang of hypocritical deniers "debating" GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hereby-pit-the-gang-of-hypocritical-deniers-debating-gigobuster/595281/52): > > Oh, Christ, another GIGO-in-training. Now that’s funny. But whatever you do, don’t ever stop. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/373 "2013-09-10T17:04:53Z")
Yeah, “from the Outside”. Man, people is so funny. I can hardly wait for the next GigoGallop I’m also expecting an update to the SS glossary database. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/374 "2013-09-10T17:10:11Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Now that’s funny. > > But whatever you do, don’t ever stop. Probably it wouldn’t be too hard for an experienced programmer to write a program which passes the GIGO-Turing Test. i.e. a program which automatically posts in global warming threads and is indistinguishable from actual posts by **GIGOGallup** himself. The algorithm is pretty straight forward. Just scan posts for key words, search for those keywords on skepticalscience, and post random cuts and pastes from the search results. Throw in a few stock insults for good measure, and voila. Seriously, I think there’s a pretty good chance that if somebody hacked **Gigo** ’s account and replaced it with a program like that, it would take months for anyone to notice the difference. If they ever did. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/375 "2013-09-10T17:12:44Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > Are you arguing with a website or with global warming? Maybe you should get your story straight, FX He doesn’t _need_ to get his story straight. He’s trolling. He’s getting exactly what he wants out of this thread. Perhaps, in my last post, where I referred to him as **FXMasturbatingmindlessly** , I should instead have called him **FXMasturbatingfuriously**. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/376 "2013-09-10T17:16:47Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Seriously, I think there’s a pretty good chance that if somebody hacked **Gigo** ’s account and replaced it with a program like that, it would take months for anyone to notice the difference. If they ever did. And even if you were sure it was just an SS bot, it wouldn’t make any difference. You know in your heart this is true. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/377 "2013-09-10T17:21:22Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > And you are a false witness Oh God! Next thing you know, GigoGallup is going to excommunicate me! You know, I joke around about it being like a religion. But that sort of shit really makes it seem like a Goddamn religion. ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/378 "2013-09-10T17:31:27Z")
> [@Lightnin](#): > > Who are you trying to convince? Yourself? 'Cause from the outside, it looks like \*\*GIGO \*\*is kinda kicking your butt. > [@Lightnin](#): > > Who are you trying to convince? Yourself? 'Cause from the outside, it looks like \*\*GIGO \*\*is kinda kicking your butt. I agree. I find it rather interesting that \*\*FXMastermind \*\*and \*\*Brazil84 \*\*appear to be championing the notion that Global Warming / Climate Change is a fabrication based on flawed studies. Yet, neither of these posters finds it necessary to forward any alternative hypotheses or data that contradicts the standard accepted premises presented above by \*\*Gigobuster \*\*and others. According to the vast majority of studies made over the last few decades, the overall atmospheric temperature has been increasing for decades and that it is highly likely that the reason for this increase is an increase in certain gases such as carbon dioxide and methane. The sources for these gases appear to be man-made and therefore, based upon this chain of logic, the cause for the increase in average global temperature is anthropogenic in nature. When the total amount of energy in a system is increased, the chaotic instabilities inherent in that system will, by definition, increase. Therefore, in a system as complex as that of the planetary atmosphere, you are likely to see extremes in both the overall highs and lows in local temperatures. This is likely one of the causes for the remarkably cool August 2013 that we experienced in the southern states of the US. Contrary to the simple analysis offered by those who are either too ignorant or too venal to accept the conclusion of scientific studies, Global Warming can, in fact, be a causative agent in extreme winter weather as well. The only reason that I can see for any contrarian point of view on this matter is that there is a very vocal and powerful minority of people who believe that any mitigation of this process will negatively impact them monetarily. This is quite analogous to the way in which a vocal and relatively powerful minority of Christians oppose the scientific theory of biological evolution. The only reason why that theory is at all controversial is because it appears to some that it contradicts their religious beliefs. In other words, the only reason why this debate (such as it is) even exists is because of willful ignorance and the influence of powerful moneyed forces who have used politics to attack a scientific premise. Also, it is my considered opinion that both **FXMastermind** and **Brazil84** have mistaken the tactics of sniggering at the perceived flaws in another’s presentation of facts for the actual mental task of countering those assertions with counter-assertions that are supported by the common data. This indicates a general laziness of intellect and therefore unworthy of their vaunted roles as _fighters against ignorance_. I recommend that these two posters need another hobby. Might I suggest R/C helicopters? ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/379 "2013-09-10T17:43:36Z")
> [@Gagundathar](#): > > I agree. I find it rather interesting that \*\*FXMastermind \*\*and \*\*Brazil84 \*\*appear to be championing the notion that Global Warming / Climate Change is a fabrication based on flawed studies. Please quote me in this thread where I said anything at all about a flawed study. Of course you cannot do that because I have said nothing in this thread about flawed studies. > [@](#): > > Yet, neither of these posters finds it necessary to forward any alternative hypotheses Before we talk about studies (flawed or not) or alternative hypotheses, there is a threshold issue: What exactly is the theory (or hypothesis) of “Global Warming / Climate Change”? You know, it might even be something I agree with. > [@](#): > > According to the vast majority of studies made over the last few decades, the overall atmospheric temperature has been increasing for decades and that it is highly likely that the reason for this increase is an increase in certain gases such as carbon dioxide and methane. The sources for these gases appear to be man-made and therefore, based upon this chain of logic, the cause for the increase in average global temperature is anthropogenic in nature. Is this it? > [@](#): > > I recommend that these two posters need another hobby. Might I suggest R/C helicopters? Reported. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2013, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/380 "2013-09-10T17:49:56Z")
> [@Gagundathar](#): > > This is likely one of the causes for the remarkably cool August 2013 that we experienced in the southern states of the US. Contrary to the simple analysis offered by those who are either too ignorant or too venal to accept the conclusion of scientific studies, Global Warming can, in fact, be a causative agent in extreme winter weather as well. You might want to actually read a thread before posting. > [@FXMastermind](#): > > [Global warming set to bring colder, snowier winters](http://environmentalresearchweb.org/cws/article/news/48293) > > [Cold Winters Driven By Global Warming](http://news.discovery.com/earth/cold-winter-snow-weather-global-warming-101222.htm) > > Damn you global warming. Damn you all to hell. Note that I linked to two, not one, but two articles, based on science, that explain how global warming could be CAUSING colder weather. In fact, the OP is about how global warming is fucking things up. It makes me sick. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440.md?page=20)