# I'm sick of this Global Warming! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 16, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440 "2013-08-16T18:57:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/21 "2013-08-16T20:12:44Z")
**FX** and others who think they’re being Zeno-like masters of intellectual balloon-popping, you might enjoy Nate Silver’s book _**[The Signal and the Noise](http://www.amazon.com/The-Signal-Noise-Many-Predictions/dp/159420411X)**_. There’s a whole chapter about the Greenhouse Effect and climate change. Warning - it’s not just anecdotal evidence and sound bites! ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/22 "2013-08-16T20:25:00Z")
Well, there is little doubt the predictions of the IPCC and the consensus and the models were right. [Global warming set to bring colder, snowier winters](http://environmentalresearchweb.org/cws/article/news/48293) [Cold Winters Driven By Global Warming](http://news.discovery.com/earth/cold-winter-snow-weather-global-warming-101222.htm) Damn you global warming. Damn you all to hell. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/23 "2013-08-16T20:25:07Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > “Global Warming” is SO last year…its now “Climate Change”. Climate change covers everything-warm summers, cool winters, warm winters, cool summers, oceans heating up, oceans cooling down! Don’t confuse CC with science-its actually a cult religion. By the way, you can blame the [Republican denialism cult](http://www.skepticalscience.com/climate-change-global-warming.htm) for the name change. [QUOTE=Frank Luntz] “Climate change” is less frightening than “global warming”. As one focus group participant noted, climate change “sounds like you’re going from Pittsburgh to Fort Lauderdale.” While global warming has catastrophic connotations attached to it, climate change suggests a more controllable and less emotional challenge. [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/24 "2013-08-16T20:31:36Z")
Meanwhile, the denial industry continues to try and muddy the waters. [Can climate models explain the recent stagnation in global warming?](http://www.academia.edu/4210419/Can_climate_models_explain_the_recent_stagnation_in_global_warming) Stagnation? Shut the hell up. Global warming is killing the planet. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/25 "2013-08-16T20:38:01Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/8ZcO78wkxNs/hqdefault.jpg "Cat Crying Sounds Like He's Saying Al Gore") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZcO78wkxNs) ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/26 "2013-08-16T20:59:11Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > [Atlanta breaks a century-old temperature record](http://www.cbsatlanta.com/story/23151205/atlanta-breaks-a-century-old-temperature-record) > > ATLANTA (CBS ATLANTA) - > > Atlanta’s high temperature on Thursday was only 73 degrees which is the coolest high temperature on record for August 15. > > The previous record was a high of only 77 degrees from 1908. > > The average high temperature for this time of year is 88 degrees, putting Thursday’s high 15 degrees below average. Prove to me you’re not a damned hypocrite – it’s been one year since Atlanta hit its all time record of [106 degrees on June 30](http://voices.yahoo.com/all-time-record-hottest-coldest-temperatures-ever-12114162.html) (since recording started in 1878). If you’re willing to base your assessment of current climate \* change \* on a single data point or even a single summer’s, then why weren’t you running around like Chicken Little a year ago? ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/27 "2013-08-16T21:01:52Z")
It was too damn hot to run around last year. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/28 "2013-08-16T21:04:08Z")
Climate change must be wrong because it’s cold where I am, today. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/29 "2013-08-16T21:06:12Z")
Plus, the official records show 94.1 as the maximum for Atlanta. 87.1 for June 2012 [http://www.nws.noaa.gov/climate/xmacis.php?wfo=ffc](http://www.nws.noaa.gov/climate/xmacis.php?wfo=ffc) Not that i doubt it can get to 106 in Atalanta. It’s just not an official number. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/30 "2013-08-16T21:10:56Z")
Ok, so sometime in the last two hours **FXMastermind** forgot the difference between a month and a day. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/31 "2013-08-16T21:11:17Z")
**Finagle** , you and I got whooshed good. > [@FXMastermind](#): > > Plus, the official records show 94.1 as the maximum for Atlanta. 87.1 for June 2012 > [http://www.nws.noaa.gov/climate/xmacis.php?wfo=ffc](http://www.nws.noaa.gov/climate/xmacis.php?wfo=ffc) > > Not that i doubt it can get to 106 in Atalanta. > > It’s just not an official number. [It was at this baseball game I attended in Atlanta in June 2012.](http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=320630115) That’s official. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/32 "2013-08-16T21:14:33Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Plus, the official records show 94.1 as the maximum for Atlanta. 87.1 for June 2012 > [http://www.nws.noaa.gov/climate/xmacis.php?wfo=ffc](http://www.nws.noaa.gov/climate/xmacis.php?wfo=ffc) > > Not that i doubt it can get to 106 in Atalanta. > > It’s just not an official number. Nope, 105. > **[Local Weather Forecast, News and Conditions | Weather Underground](https://www.wunderground.com/?cm_ven=cgi)** > > Weather Underground provides local & long-range weather forecasts, weather reports, maps & tropical weather conditions for locations worldwide ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/33 "2013-08-16T21:19:04Z")
That says 104 in the METARS, 105 in the record, while NOAA says 106 (I was wrong, the [http://www.nws.noaa.gov/climate/xmacis.php?wfo=ffc](http://www.nws.noaa.gov/climate/xmacis.php?wfo=ffc) site says 106 is the record for June) ---
**Author:** ![yanceylebeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yanceylebeef/32/12290_2.png) [@yanceylebeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yanceylebeef)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/34 "2013-08-16T21:32:55Z")
Jesus, for a board that has as many smart, educated and erudite members, we also get a whole lot of idiots. I blame the weather. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/35 "2013-08-16T21:36:07Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > “Global Warming” is SO last year…its now “Climate Change”. Climate change covers everything-warm summers, cool winters, warm winters, cool summers, oceans heating up, oceans cooling down! Don’t confuse CC with science-its actually a cult religion. Ah the godwin against climate denier idiots, it is indeed the most idiotic move to declare this a religion, when the deniers reach for that they are no different from the countless pseudo scientists and woo woo proponents that accuse scientists of following religion, indeed it is a very common tactic of deniers of science and it is no less idiotic when used elsewhere. And also as pointed by other in the thread, it was a Republican idea to “change” the name, actually there was no change, Global Warming and Climate Change are terms that have been used for more then 80 years. > **[Global warming vs climate change](https://skepticalscience.com/climate-change-global-warming.htm)** > > \There have long been claims that some unspecificed > [@](#): > > What the science says… > > There have long been claims that some unspecificed “they” has “changed the name from ‘global warming’ to ‘climate change’”. In reality, the two terms mean different things, have both been used for decades, and the only individual to have specifically advocated changing the name in this fashion is a global warming ‘skeptic’. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/36 "2013-08-16T21:44:52Z")
> [@bup](#): > > **Finagle** , you and I got whooshed good. > > [It was at this baseball game I attended in Atlanta in June 2012.](http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=320630115) That’s official. Jeez, that Strasbourg is _such_ a pussy! ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/37 "2013-08-16T21:46:27Z")
> **[Google Books Ngram Viewer](https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Global%2BWarming%2C%2Bglobal%2Bwarming%2C%2BClimate%2Bchange%2C%2Bclimate%2Bchange&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=)** > > Google Books Ngram Viewer global warming started dropping off, climate change wins, except Climate Change drops off and Global Warming wins. That’s odd ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/38 "2013-08-16T21:47:19Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > That’s odd You don’t get to cite books until you work out that month vs. day thing. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/39 "2013-08-16T21:51:10Z")
Both climate change and global warming show up for centuries ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/40 "2013-08-16T21:52:48Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > You don’t get to cite books until you work out that month vs. day thing. You just moved this thread so you could be insulting. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440.md?page=3)