# I'm sick of this Global Warming! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 16, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440 "2013-08-16T18:57:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 237
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/4721 "2015-08-27T16:35:44Z")
“Nevertheless, the atmosphere is a powerful obstacle during ascent for space travel. It virtually forms an armored shield surrounding the Earth on all sides.” **The Problem of Space Travel: The Rocket Motor** ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/4722 "2015-08-27T16:55:17Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > The entire atmosphere can be considered a barrier, and you can certainly describe the ozone as a “[thermal barrier](http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Earth's_atmosphere)”, but not a “physical structure”, which is where the original fuckhead dispute started. > > If you call the atmosphere a barrier, it’s semantics, the curse of a scientific discussion. Yeah, see, this is why I don’t enjoy trying to have a conversation with you. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/4723 "2015-08-27T17:00:21Z")
I usually resist this sort of bait, from a troll. But sometimes … > [@andros](#): > > Yeah, see, this is why I don’t enjoy trying to have a conversation with you. You are a liar, and your own posts show this. Here is your first two “contributions in this thread.” > [@andros](#): > > Hey **FX** , how do you feel about soccer? > [@andros](#): > > I’m not sure I have ever seen so much furious masturbating in a single thread. Please remember to stay hydrated, **FX**! See? You were a known troll since you started, so don’t get all sentimental about how semantics are messing up your enjoyment of a scientific discussion about global warming. Because you are just an idiot troll, and always will come across that way. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/4724 "2015-08-27T17:01:11Z")
Hey - did you hear that July was the hottest month ever? Did you hear that 2015 will be the hottesr year ever? ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/4725 "2015-08-27T17:03:04Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Did you hear that 2015 will be the hottesr year ever? Yes! It’s amazing how NOAA knows this in advance. Their science is truly awesome. The only problem they face is that both the satellite data, and the surface temperature data shows them to be full of shit. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/4726 "2015-08-27T17:39:56Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > I usually resist this sort of bait, from a troll. Liar. This entire thread is evidence that you cannot resist it. Quis trolliet ipsos trolles? ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/4727 "2015-08-27T17:45:31Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Hey - did you hear that July was the hottest month ever? Did you hear that 2015 will be the hottesr year ever? If you’ll check the data, July of 250,000,000 BC is the hottest on record … give or take ten or twenty million years. Looks like 2015 will be one of the very coldest years since the Cambrian. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/4728 "2015-08-27T19:25:49Z")
Shirt story on this latest “warmest year ever”, or “warmest month ever”, or Jan-July warmest ever", it’s simply not true, and it’s deceptive as well, in how they present it. North America is not only nowhere near the warmest year, month or year-to-date ever, the last two ytd periods/years have been very cold compared to the long term average. [They don’t show you that](http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/time-series/global/northAmerica/land/7/7/1998-2014) [They won’t show you this](http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/time-series/global/northAmerica/land/1/7/1998-2014) amd they sure as hell [don’t want you looking at this data](http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/time-series/global/northAmerica/land/1/2/1996-2014) [or this](http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/time-series/global/asia/land/1/2/1996-2014) [or this](http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/time-series/global/asia/land/1/7/1996-2014) [or even this](http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/time-series/global/nhem/land/1/2/1990-2014) They will focus on the July trend, ([+1.70C a century](http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/time-series/global/globe/land/1/7/1996-2014)) but say the February one ([-1.54C a century](http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/time-series/global/globe/land/1/7/1996-2014)) is meaningless. It’s called cherry picking, and when alarmists do it, it’s OK ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/4729 "2015-08-27T20:16:51Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > “Nevertheless, the atmosphere is a powerful obstacle during ascent for space travel. It virtually forms an armored shield surrounding the Earth on all sides.” > **The Problem of Space Travel: The Rocket Motor** Why do you quote a reference that is against the point you were trying to make? ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/4730 "2015-08-27T20:26:36Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Why do you quote a reference that is against the point you were trying to make? Because [using a 1928 book](http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19950015477.pdf) as a source for the claim that the atmosphere is a physical barrier is hilarious? Not just a physical barrier, an armored barrier. Like that ozone layer of .01 ppm ozone in a rarefied atmosphere, it’s a physical barrier like no other. Aw come on man, that shit is hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/4731 "2015-08-27T20:45:13Z")
It would actually be educational to explain how and why the ozone payer protects us from the sun, helps keep the planet warm, and why mankind is doing a lot of damage to it, and what climate changes that causes. ---
**Author:** ![statij](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@statij](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/statij)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/4732 "2015-08-27T21:03:01Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Aw come on man, that shit is hilarious. Apparently you don’t realize how not funny you are. I think that probably explains a large part of the problem with this thread. Your “jokes” are never funny, or even jokes per se, and you tend to fall back on “humor” as an excuse when the bullshit gets too thick, or incomprehensible. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/4733 "2015-08-27T21:05:42Z")
> [@statij](#): > > Apparently you don’t realize how not funny you are. I’m sure you don’t understand. It’s funny to me. I doubt it’s funny to the target of the joke. This famous comedian will help explain [Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die](http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/m/melbrooks161275.html) … see? … ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/4734 "2015-08-27T21:10:53Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > It would actually be educational to explain how and why the ozone payer protects us from the sun, helps keep the planet warm, and why mankind is doing a lot of damage to it, and what climate changes that causes. Yes, that would be educational. Why are you spending your time trolling instead? ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/4735 "2015-08-27T21:16:31Z")
You might be confused. This is not the only forum online, and the Pit is certainly not a forum for extended scientific discussions of atmospheric chemistry. But if just one single person actually was interested, it would be so. ---
**Author:** ![statij](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@statij](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/statij)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/4736 "2015-08-27T21:17:31Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > I’m sure you don’t understand. It’s funny to me. I doubt it’s funny to the target of the joke. > > This famous comedian will help explain > > [Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die](http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/m/melbrooks161275.html) > … see? > … Oh, I understand humor just fine, thank you very much. You’re not funny. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/4737 "2015-08-27T21:43:22Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > It would actually be educational to explain how and why the ozone payer protects us from the sun, helps keep the planet warm, and why mankind is doing a lot of damage to it, and what climate changes that causes. Oh, I get it now, you’re stuck in the '80s. Well, don’t worry, outside of Texas, people stop using Aquinette in the future and ozone layer gets better. Millions of Kiwis rejoice! ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/4738 "2015-08-27T23:17:25Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > “Nevertheless, the atmosphere is a powerful obstacle during ascent for space travel. It virtually forms an armored shield surrounding the Earth on all sides.” > **The Problem of Space Travel: The Rocket Motor** This is a joke? > [@FXMastermind](#): > > … however I did enjoy your post, especially the Latin parts This is what got the beer coming out my nose, too funny. It’s Greek, not Latin … get it? hahahaha … “It’s Greek to me” ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/4739 "2015-08-28T00:20:44Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > This is a joke? No, and I linked to the book online. In 1928 nobody even knew about the ozone layer, or the high energy UV it blocks. ---
**Author:** ![Shagunathor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@Shagunathor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagunathor)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/4740 "2015-08-28T00:45:59Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > No, and I linked to the book online. In 1928 nobody even knew about the ozone layer, or the high energy UV it blocks. Wrong: > **[Applied\_Optics\_v7\_1968.pdf](https://gml.noaa.gov/ozwv/dobson/papers/Applied_Optics_v7_1968.pdf)** > > 4.81 MB Brief summary–by 1879 it was realized that UV was being blocked by something in the atmosphere, and it was quickly theorized to be ozone. By 1920 there was spectrographic evidence of the ozone layer and there are many pages describing the materials and methods used. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440.md?page=236) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440.md?page=238)