# I'm sick of this Global Warming! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 16, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440 "2013-08-16T18:57:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 60
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2013, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1181 "2013-12-28T23:06:47Z")
It’s another GIGOgalloper! And way to miss the point. Which was that Climate change as well as AGW both redirect to global warming. [QUOTE=BrainGlutton;16966016[Yes, it does.] ([Climate change - RationalWiki](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Global_warming)) [/QUOTE] And that is a terrible article. It’s like the people who built it know nothing about meteorology or climate science. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2013, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1182 "2013-12-28T23:27:23Z")
He doesn’t want to understand that I agree with him. The OP is about the money spent on investigating these subjects, or just the money spent on what you disagree with? ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2013, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1183 "2013-12-28T23:31:39Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > The OP is about the money spent on investigating these subjects, or just the money spent on what you disagree with? Wrong topic! Do NOT bring that conspiracy theory bullshit into this topic. This one is all about science. SCIENCE BITCHES! ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2013, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1184 "2013-12-28T23:39:41Z")
I see, that’s the other thread … my mistake. Maybe start a thread in Great Debates, or do you want this thread to be about the science of Global Warming? Either way, you have to ignore the stupid motherfucker. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2013, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1185 "2013-12-28T23:42:09Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > The OP is about the money spent on investigating . . . No, that word does not apply. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2013, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1186 "2013-12-28T23:45:02Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > And that is a terrible article. It’s like the people who built it know nothing about meteorology or climate science. Follow the footnotes and see. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1187 "2013-12-29T00:37:08Z")
I follow a few footnotes, the science seemed thin. [giggle] I couldn’t find my hypothesis in their “denier’s myths rebuked” section. Ummm … Pluto is getting warmer, very slowly, but it is warmer today than it was 2 billion years ago … just saying … I’m just not convinced that 60% of emission that causes 29% of the greenhouse effect is more principle than the 40% of emissions that cause 60% of the greenhouse effect. That’s ignoring heat of condensation [stupid look] that’s something one should never ignore. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1188 "2013-12-29T00:46:35Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > I follow a few footnotes, the science seemed thin. [giggle] I think it was meant as a joke. The footnotes. > [@](#): > > Footnotes > > ↑ [1] > ↑ Ward, Peter F. Under a Green Sky > ↑ [http://www.worldenergyoutlook.org/media/weowebsite/2013/IEAGMFeventBrussels13jun13invitation.pdf](http://www.worldenergyoutlook.org/media/weowebsite/2013/IEAGMFeventBrussels13jun13invitation.pdf) > ↑ [http://www.oecd.org/env/the-climate-challenge-achieving-zero-emissions.htm](http://www.oecd.org/env/the-climate-challenge-achieving-zero-emissions.htm) > **[Climate change](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Global_warming#Footnotes)** > > Climate change, also known as anthropogenic (or human-caused) global warming,\[note 2\] is the rising average temperature of Earth's atmosphere and oceans and its related effects. Global-warming denialism refers to claims — mostly funded by the... OK definitely a joke site. That will teach me to do some research. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1189 "2013-12-29T00:47:56Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > I see, that’s the other thread … my mistake. Maybe start a thread in Great Debates, or do you want this thread to be about the science of Global Warming? Either way, you have to ignore the stupid motherfucker. I had him on ignore for a long time. Then took him off ignore, and now he refuses to even discuss science, just spams links to the same blogs over and over. He’s like a goddamn stupid bot. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1190 "2013-12-29T01:15:08Z")
I followed footnote #7, I thought it informative, well written … the science presented is correct as I understand it. They left a few holes, so no harm trying to fill them. Unforgivable they blew off water vapor changing to rain … 2.1 J/g buck-o … first law says deal with it. > **[Explaining how the water vapor greenhouse effect works](https://skepticalscience.com/water-vapor-greenhouse-gas.htm)** > > \Water vapour is the most dominant greenhouse gas. Water vapour is also the dominant positive feedback in our climate system and amplifies any warming caused by changes in atmospheric CO2. This positive feedback is why climate is so sensitive to... ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1191 "2013-12-29T01:21:58Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > I followed footnote #7, WTF? I see only 4 footnotes. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1192 "2013-12-29T01:23:13Z")
Oh never mind the “denialism” page has extensive footnotes. Of course it does. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1193 "2013-12-29T01:28:29Z")
I’m on ([Climate change - RationalWiki](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Global_warming_denialism)) and I see 17 footnotes. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1194 "2013-12-29T01:29:46Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > [Explaining how the water vapor greenhouse effect works](http://www.skepticalscience.com/water-vapor-greenhouse-gas.htm) That page is so full of fail … ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2013, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1195 "2013-12-29T01:42:32Z")
Hey, now, come on … they got two of the three laws of thermodynamics right. Pretty good for a web-site that has to show me a picture of a brain so I’ll think they’re smart. Wait a second … are they saying it’ll rain MORE with global warming … ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2013, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1196 "2013-12-30T15:07:33Z")
I just heard-the latest attempt to reach the Russian ship (trapped in the Antarctic sea ice) has failed. It is summer in the southern hemisphere, and yet, the sea is freezing up. I thought the sea ice was melting, due to warming…imagine that? What tweak/epicycle to the AGW model explains this odd behavior? Oh-fresh water pouring off the Antarctic icecap? that’s it! You have to admire the inventiveness of the High priests of the COGW!😃 ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2013, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1197 "2013-12-30T15:22:01Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > I just heard-the latest attempt to reach the Russian ship (trapped in the Antarctic sea ice) has failed. If there was no ice, and it was only -2 degrees there, we would hear all about how global warming is destroying the antarctic region. The warmists can’t catch a break of late. It’s almost like mother nature is mocking them. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2013, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1198 "2013-12-30T15:26:02Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > In its simplest form, the argument for anthropogenic climate change goes as follows. > > 1.The Earth’s atmosphere keeps the planet much warmer than it would be without an atmosphere.[2] > > 2.The main gases which contribute to this are carbon dioxide, methane and water vapor.[3] Collectively these are called greenhouse gases. > > 3.The ability of these gases to act as greenhouse gases can be shown in a laboratory.[4] > > 4.The quantity of these greenhouse gases in the atmosphere has increased sharply since the Industrial Revolution, and their concentration continues to do so.[5] > > 5.The concentration of these gases has increased as a consequence of human activity.[6] > > 6.The temperature of Earth’s atmosphere has been increasing and continues to increase.[7] > > 7.The increase in global temperature correlates with the increases of greenhouse gases.[8][9] That is a terrible terrible “argument”. Like Wikipedia, the SS blog, as well as almost every fucktard trying to argue on internets, it completely avoids the SCIENTIFIC THEORY, as well as HOW WE CAN TELL IT IS INCREASED GREENHOUSE EFFECT causing the changes, the critical matters at hand. That this happens over and over, with out fail, it can’t be by chance. It’s just not possible. ---
**Author:** ![Mapache](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/58956e/32.png) [@Mapache](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mapache)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2013, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1199 "2013-12-30T16:20:36Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > I just heard-the latest attempt to reach the Russian ship (trapped in the Antarctic sea ice) has failed. > It is summer in the southern hemisphere, and yet, the sea is freezing up. I thought the sea ice was melting, due to warming…imagine that? > What tweak/epicycle to the AGW model explains this odd behavior? Oh-fresh water pouring off the Antarctic icecap? that’s it! > You have to admire the inventiveness of the High priests of the COGW!😃 Why,yes, it is “summer in the Southern Hemisphere.” With a vengeance. I’m not gonna give FX another chance to snigger at an old man’s poor computer skills (I’m 72, and like a lot of geezers I don’t understand or much like the things, and anyway my only connection is an old iPad, so google it yourself. Start with “Australian heat wave 2013”. You’ll find things like " NASA’s alarming map of the worst Australian heat wave on record. The 114degrees in Sidney is nothing compared to the 121degrees recorded in Moomba". Then google "Australian heat wave 2012. And 2011. Then Google “Argentina heat wave 2013, 2012,” and so on. There you will find more quotes, like: “Downtown Buenos Aires reached 100 degrees on Thursday, which is about 15 degrees above average”. “Accuweather real feel temps reached 115 degrees.” Now since FX tells us that low temperatures in Atlanta mean AGW is. Hoax, what toes record-breaking heat in the Southern Hemisphere tell us? ---
**Author:** ![Mapache](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/58956e/32.png) [@Mapache](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mapache)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2013, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1200 "2013-12-30T16:25:15Z")
[QUOTE=] Why,yes, it is “summer in the Southern Hemisphere.” With a vengeance. I’m not gonna give FX another chance to snigger at an old man’s poor computer skills (I’m 72, and like a lot of geezers I don’t understand or much like the things, and anyway my only connection is an old iPad, so google it yourself. Start with “Australian heat wave 2013”. You’ll find things like " NASA’s alarming map of the worst Australian heat wave on record. The 114degrees in Sidney is nothing compared to the 121degrees recorded in Moomba". Then google "Australian heat wave 2012. And 2011. Then Google “Argentina heat wave 2013, 2012,” and so on. There you will find more quotes, like: “Downtown Buenos Aires reached 100 degrees on Thursday, which is about 15 degrees above average”. “Accuweather real feel temps reached 115 degrees.” Now since FX tells us that low temperatures in Atlanta mean AGW is. Hoax, what does record-breaking heat in the Southern Hemisphere tell us? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440.md?page=59) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440.md?page=61)