# I'm sick of this Global Warming! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 16, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440 "2013-08-16T18:57:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 72
**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1421 "2014-01-16T13:51:50Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > No no no! The way to fight ignorance is to post one line insults, and try and impress other people with your wit. > > That’s how you educate the masses. > > All this science and shit just confuses people. Cite? ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1422 "2014-01-16T14:04:19Z")
> [@citizenzen](#): > > This first part is above my pay grade. I’m a graphic designer. That’s why I count on scientists to discuss these kinds of issues amongst themselves and report on whether they make sense or not. Right, I’m not disputing what a scientific paper says in total, rather taking a couple of sentences, saying “this confirms my statement”, yet when read in context of the paper in fact actually does not confirm the statement. Typically by ignoring 98% of the energy involved, and that’s always a bad idea. > [@citizenzen](#): > > The little that I do know [or assume to know] about the 2nd Law is that it concerns _closed systems_. Disorder always increases because there is no energy being put into the system. But the Sun constantly radiates the Earth with energy. The system isn’t closed. Therefore I don’t see how the 2nd Law applies. [startled look] Graphic designer, eh … the above is most intelligent thing I’ve read here on SDMB on this subject. I’ll be making it a point to be very very careful disputing your science. My copy of Halliday/Resnick gives the 2nd Law in terms of “system and environment”, and if compared to your statement the Earth and Sun are the closed system. Yeah, I can see you rolling your eyes already. [sigh]. However, my main dispute when people post about positive feedback loops is they still have to specific the “initiator”. Consider holding the electric guitar up to its speaker, nothing happens until we apply an external energy source to pluck the string. Then and only then will the positive feedback loop begin. It may not have anything to do with the 2nd Law, but it’s still true [whine whine bitch bitch]. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1423 "2014-01-16T14:11:44Z")
> [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](#): > > Cite? It’s in the Bible, Watchwolf 14:27 - “If thou shouldst consume 12 letters for thou’s username, ye be no better than a hair dresser” To wit: dv/dt = ∂b/∂t + ∂g/∂t + ∂F/∂t. Here, let me quote 14 scientific journals over the next 6 column-feet … ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1424 "2014-01-16T16:09:29Z")
I never have understood why people choose pretentious user names. ---
**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1425 "2014-01-16T17:27:19Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > I never have understood why people choose pretentious user names. Um … Nah … too easy. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1426 "2014-01-16T17:45:29Z")
A slow lob across the plate … and it’s a ball. ---
**Author:** ![Peaton\_of\_peat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecae2f/32.png) [@Peaton\_of\_peat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peaton_of_peat)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1427 "2014-01-16T17:55:28Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > A slow lob across the plate … > and it’s a ball. Okay you seriously have to be trying to be that bad at metaphors. ---
**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1428 "2014-01-16T18:08:26Z")
> [@Peaton\_of\_peat](#): > > Okay you seriously have to be trying to be that bad at metaphors. You’d think a mastermind could do better … ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1429 "2014-01-17T14:03:22Z")
An Inconvenient Truth - the way I see it [http://www.enviroalternatives.com/globalwarming.html](http://www.enviroalternatives.com/globalwarming.html) > [@](#): > > So now the cons of Al Gore’s ‘An Inconvenient Truth’ are coming out. I must say I was impressed with the movie and the facts portrayed were shocking. **It has confirmed what I already know in my heart to be true**. You know in your heart it is true. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1430 "2014-01-17T14:27:57Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > An Inconvenient Truth - the way I see it > [Climate Change](http://www.enviroalternatives.com/globalwarming.html) > > You know in your heart it is true. And now it is confirmed by science. Game. Set. Match. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1431 "2014-01-17T14:52:40Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > And now it is confirmed by science. Game. Set. Match. Says the poster who claims there are lots of ways to prove the prediction false – but doesn’t produce even _one_ such hypothetical when repeatedly asked. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1432 "2014-01-17T14:58:31Z")
Al Gore wins! ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1433 "2014-01-17T14:59:58Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Says the poster who claims there are lots of ways to prove the prediction false – but doesn’t produce even _one_ such hypothetical when repeatedly asked. Actually putting something out there opens you up to all kinds of hassles. Like the climategate email said, “Why should I share my research with them? They are just looking for a way to find something wrong with it”. SCIENCE! Bitch ---
**Author:** ![Peaton\_of\_peat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecae2f/32.png) [@Peaton\_of\_peat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peaton_of_peat)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1434 "2014-01-17T16:38:23Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > An Inconvenient Truth - the way I see it > [Climate Change](http://www.enviroalternatives.com/globalwarming.html) > > You know in your heart it is true. Someone sees a thing that confirms what they believed. This proves that their belief is incorrect. Yep, sounds good to me. ---
**Author:** ![citizenzen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a8b319/32.png) [@citizenzen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/citizenzen)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1435 "2014-01-17T16:42:47Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Al Gore wins! What was his prize? ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1436 "2014-01-17T16:46:50Z")
A Nobel ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1437 "2014-01-17T20:06:52Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > An Inconvenient Truth - the way I see it > [Climate Change](http://www.enviroalternatives.com/globalwarming.html) Seattle … what the hell do people in Seattle care about global warming … Mt Rainier will incinerate them long before sea levels rise … sheesh … ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1438 "2014-01-18T10:30:20Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Where did you get that idea? In large part from the fact that warmists tend to be very reluctant to either (1) precisely define their hypothesis; or (2) lay out exactly what evidence would undermine or disprove their hypothesis. (Although they are eager to tell you that various evidence does NOT undermine or disprove their hypothesis). Just look at your behavior in this thread. You state this: > [@](#): > > There are lots of empirical data that would disprove global warming; However you refuse to even give examples of such data or to offer a precise definition of what you mean by “global warming.” You are a perfect example of why I state that “NOTHING is inconsistent with the Sacred (But Undefined) Theory of Global Warming.” ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1439 "2014-01-18T10:43:37Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Actually putting something out there opens you up to all kinds of hassles. > > Like the climategate email said, “Why should I share my research with them? They are just looking for a way to find something wrong with it”. > SCIENCE! Bitch Are you silly enough to think climategate was a real scandal? Or are you just mentioning it in an aside, to create a general atmosphere of denial? ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1440 "2014-01-18T11:53:01Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Are you silly enough to think climategate was a real scandal? > > Or are you just mentioning it in an aside, to create a general atmosphere of denial? It wasn’t a real scandal ??? That would be exceptionally bad news if I knew what the hell that was. But if there’s a [Wikipedia article](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit_email_controversy) about it, then I don’t have to read it to know I wanna be a part. “Climate change denialism is the prime example [of pseudoscience], where a handful of scientists, allied with an effective PR machine, are publicly challenging the scientific consensus that global warming is real and is due primarily to human consumption of fossil fuels.” There it is … thermodynamics is a pseudoscience now. Add that to astronomy and chemistry and we have quite the impressive list of heresies. I’m sorry, there’s not one shred of evidence to back up the claim that global warming is caused **primarily** by humans. If that makes me a denier, then I wear that badge with honor. Why, I’m damn proud to use strictly wind farm electricity for reasons that have … absolutely … no … connection … to … global … warming. (yea, I hope that pisses off people too). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440.md?page=71) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440.md?page=73)