# I'm sick of this Global Warming! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 16, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440 "2013-08-16T18:57:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 75
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1481 "2014-01-20T15:55:19Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > You know how to keep a moron in suspense? Eh, I figure any excuse to remind people you’re a tard is nice. > [@FXMastermind](#): > > Another thing to do, is act all smart and dismissive of anything you don’t agree with, and appeal to the imagined “crowd” out there, rather than try to discuss anything. You see? Use the rhetorical device of asking questions (JAQing off) and act all surprised, like you can’t believe anyone you disagree with could be serious. > > That’s how to get your climategate denier cred. Yeah, see, it’s not that I don’t believe that there are people dumb enough to still believe that climategate was a huge scandal or that it had anything more to add to the discussion than “boy, aren’t those on the denialist side dishonest shitbags” (which we already knew, thank you, although this threw it into stark contrast). What I don’t buy is that they exist _here_. On this forum. That seems ostensibly not to cater to syphilitic inbreds. Way to drag the average down, asshole. I mean, if there was anything to discuss, I’d gladly do so, but there isn’t. Climategate has been done to death by people _way_ smarter than you (or Delingpole, that ignoble twat). ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1482 "2014-01-20T16:02:33Z")
Hey I know, maybe next FX will bring up how there was a cooling trend predicted in 1970. And for his encore performance, he can get into how Darwin recanted his theory on his deathbed. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1483 "2014-01-20T16:42:59Z")
One thing I know for sure. The warmistas have such little knowledge of climate science, they probably think this thread is getting old. In reality, it’s just starting up. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1484 "2014-01-20T16:46:11Z")
Want to see how stupid a warmists actually is? > [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Hey I know, maybe next FX will bring up how there was a **cooling trend predicted in 1970.** And for his encore performance, he can get into how Darwin recanted his theory on his deathbed. Isn’t that just fucking awesome? A fuckhead makes up something, and it is already easy to show, with a link of course, how stupid his claim is. Was. Not that it will make any difference at all to a fuckhead. (just click the link) [cooling trend predicted in 1970](https://www.google.com/#q=%22cooling+trend+predicted+in+1970%22) ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1485 "2014-01-20T16:47:33Z")
Since any [fuckhead](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fuckhead) can just Google anything, I know good and damn well to always have a source, and I even link to them. Fuckheads of the world don’t understand this. It’s a main reason why they are fuckheads. ---
**Author:** ![Peaton\_of\_peat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecae2f/32.png) [@Peaton\_of\_peat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peaton_of_peat)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1486 "2014-01-20T17:14:02Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > One thing I know for sure. The warmistas have such little knowledge of climate science, they probably think this thread is getting old. In reality, it’s just starting up. > [@FXMastermind](#): > > You really want this thread to just continue forever? Really? > > Think of the children, ??? 😕😕😕😕 ---
**Author:** ![hkepotat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hkepotat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hkepotat)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1487 "2014-01-20T17:16:06Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Want to see how stupid a warmists actually is? > > Isn’t that just fucking awesome? A fuckhead makes up something, and it is already easy to show, with a link of course, how stupid his claim is. Was. > > Not that it will make any difference at all to a fuckhead. > > (just click the link) [cooling trend predicted in 1970](https://www.google.com/#q=%22cooling+trend+predicted+in+1970%22) Not sure what your point is here, are you pointing out that there was such a prediction, or trying to insinuate from the empty search that there was not? If the former, then not only did you do a bad job of it, you also have no idea what it means, if the latter, then putting the phrase in quotes limited you search a bit, try adding a ‘s’ to trends and that’ll add a bunch more results, or just removing the quotes entirely. Try this link instead, if you were actually wanting to learn. [cooling trend predicted in 1970](https://www.google.com/#q=cooling+trend+predicted+in+1970) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1488 "2014-01-20T17:42:39Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Want to see how stupid a warmists actually is? > > Isn’t that just fucking awesome? A fuckhead makes up something, and it is already easy to show, with a link of course, how stupid his claim is. Was. > > Not that it will make any difference at all to a fuckhead. > > (just click the link) [cooling trend predicted in 1970](https://www.google.com/#q=%22cooling+trend+predicted+in+1970%22) :rolleyes: [That shit again?](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle) > [@](#): > > **Hey, remember global cooling? Science was wrong back then, so obviously it’s wrong now!** Some scientists did argue for “global cooling” back in the '70s, but there never was a consensus and proponents of the hypothesis called for further research, not widespread political action. The primary hyping came from “pop science” publications (i.e. _Science News_ rather than _Science_). The serious scientists who did argue for it based their theory on: a) the cooling effects of ever-increasing amounts of aerosols (which, as we may recall from the “1940-1970 cooling” point above, caused significant cooling during the middle of the century), or b) the natural cycles of glaciation which would lead to an ice age in the next _20,000 years._ Point a) was avoided by clean air acts reducing aerosol production (in other words, an intellectual victory for environmentalists), and point b) obviously has nothing to do with imminent global cooling. Deniers conveniently forget to mention either of these things. > > In addition to that, the majority of papers published in the 1970s (when the “cooling” phenomenon was hyped) were actually predicting warming.[16][17] BTW, your Google link just goes back to this thread. No other results. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1489 "2014-01-20T17:59:33Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > BTW, your Google link just goes back to this thread. No other results. I knew that, it was what made it so damn funny. You might get better results [with this search](https://www.google.com/#q=%22cooling+trend+predicted%22+1970) hahaha OK now that was funny ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1490 "2014-01-20T18:02:10Z")
> [@hkepotat](#): > > Not sure what your point is here, are you pointing out that there was such a prediction, or trying to insinuate from the empty search that there was not? Some fuckhead claimed I might bring up something, so I pointed out that the only place it actually existed (what he claimed that is), was in the fuckhead post. I thought it was priceless. Which is the important thing. ---
**Author:** ![hkepotat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hkepotat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hkepotat)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1491 "2014-01-20T18:08:55Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Some fuckhead claimed I might bring up something, so I pointed out that the only place it actually existed (what he claimed that is), was in the fuckhead post. > > I thought it was priceless. > Which is the important thing. So, you are claiming that this [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global\_cooling](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling) doesn’t exist? Or is it this [http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/01/the-global-cooling-myth/](http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/01/the-global-cooling-myth/) what you claim does not exist? Your google search skills seem to be lacking if that is the case. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1492 "2014-01-20T18:18:06Z")
Lighten up there cowboy. A sense of humor goes a long way. ---
**Author:** ![hkepotat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hkepotat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hkepotat)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1493 "2014-01-20T18:20:47Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Lighten up there cowboy. A sense of humor goes a long way. Ah, a joke. You are making a joke, I see it now. It’s actually fucking hilarious now that I get it. Could you please let us know if any of your posts are supposed to be taken seriously? ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1494 "2014-01-20T18:31:44Z")
Just because something is funny, that don’t mean it ain’t true. Fact is, truth can be one of the funniest damn things around. Specially in a world of lies and deceit. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1495 "2014-01-20T18:35:47Z")
Take that 2012 paper I mentioned about a dozen times now. They say the cooling trend for boreal winters goes back two and half decades. That means 1987, since it was a 2012 paper. And I’ll be goddamned if whe I checked,[that trend shows up clear as day](http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/nmaps.cgi?year_last=2013&month_last=11&sat=4&sst=3&type=trends&mean_gen=1203&year1=1987&year2=2011&base1=1951&base2=1980&radius=250&pol=reg). It might seem funny, but that don’t mean it ain’t the gosh darn truth, right there on the offical page and everything. Now how is a global warmists gonna deal with that? Old GIOgalloper done run off when he seen that, since scepticalscience don’t have nothing on it for him to cut and paste. I find that funny as hell. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1496 "2014-01-20T18:40:43Z")
Ah course we can run[that trend out to 2013](http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/nmaps.cgi?year_last=2013&month_last=11&sat=4&sst=3&type=trends&mean_gen=02&year1=1987&year2=2013&base1=1951&base2=1980&radius=250&pol=reg), it don’t matter much. And goddamn if them February temperatures have actually been going down, just like people out in the weather, you know, working people, just like they noticed. Which makes them warministas, (who a kept a tellin everyone it was getting warmer and how you people just don’t know jackshit about climate), well it makes them look like damn fools is what it does. Cause everyone who ever heard some warmer talk, knows they been going on about global warming for 25 years now, saying the winters was gonna get warmer, with less snow. Now when you look at the data and see that cooling trend, that is goddamn fucking hilarious, I don’t care who you are. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1497 "2014-01-20T18:44:50Z")
But the real joke? That would be the more [recent trend for NH winters](http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/nmaps.cgi?year_last=2013&month_last=11&sat=4&sst=3&type=trends&mean_gen=1203&year1=2002&year2=2013&base1=1951&base2=1980&radius=250&pol=reg), say the period that even the global mean started dropping, rather than rising. 2002-present Ya hear the yammering damn fools telling us the warming ain’t stopped, all kinds of damn fool claims, just go read some GIGOgalloping, they never shut the fuck up about it. Meanwhile, even the goddamn GISS temps, which always show more increase than any other dataset, even GISS shows what is up. While the winters shows -.17 C drop, even [the annual trend is negative](http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/nmaps.cgi?year_last=2013&month_last=11&sat=4&sst=3&type=trends&mean_gen=0112&year1=2002&year2=2012&base1=1951&base2=1980&radius=250&pol=reg). Ain’t that a bitch? ---
**Author:** ![hkepotat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hkepotat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hkepotat)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1498 "2014-01-20T18:54:17Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Take that 2012 paper I mentioned about a dozen times now. They say the cooling trend for boreal winters goes back two and half decades. That means 1987, since it was a 2012 paper. > > And I’ll be goddamned if whe I checked,[that trend shows up clear as day](http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/nmaps.cgi?year_last=2013&month_last=11&sat=4&sst=3&type=trends&mean_gen=1203&year1=1987&year2=2011&base1=1951&base2=1980&radius=250&pol=reg). It might seem funny, but that don’t mean it ain’t the gosh darn truth, right there on the offical page and everything. > > Now how is a global warmists gonna deal with that? Old GIOgalloper done run off when he seen that, since scepticalscience don’t have nothing on it for him to cut and paste. > > I find that funny as hell. What exactly does this graph show that proves a point even tangentially relevant? This graph indicates that over a 25 year period, a small minority of areas have seen a small amount of cooling, most have seen a small amount of warming, and a few have seen drastic warming. This graph in of itself certainly does not prove a warming trend, as it is extremely simplistic, and lacks detail and data that would be much more useful in predicting future trends, but it most certainly does not in any way provide any support to your idea of a cooling trend. Not at all. To imply that it does can only be taken as another one of your attempts at humor. You have added more graphs, that all still show a moderate warming trend over their relevant time periods, it still only goes to undercut your position rather than support it. If you have a different take on it, can you explain how it supports your position? ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1499 "2014-01-20T18:58:44Z")
> [@hkepotat](#): > > What exactly does this graph show that proves a point even tangentially relevant? I just bet you ain’t been following the threat at all. Here’s some science papers, not that I think you will read them and become smart. But still, I’m all about helping. [http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2012/02/17/1114910109.full.pdf](http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2012/02/17/1114910109.full.pdf) > **[Cohenetal\_ERL12.pdf](https://web.mit.edu/jlcohen/www/papers/Cohenetal_ERL12.pdf)** > > 1612.83 KB They is peer reviewed and chock full of facts, and all the answers you seek are in them. Course that ain’t gonna help much, but still, there they are. Since they actually is the point of the thread, they is kind of relevant, just like them pretty maps I showed you is. Science. She’s my bitch. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1500 "2014-01-20T19:00:36Z")
SCIENCE!! BITCHES!! Simple version, the trend of colder NH winters directly contradicts the global warming theory that assumes the arctic feedback and physics of GhGs predict the most warming will occur in the boreal winters. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440.md?page=74) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440.md?page=76)