# I'm sick of this Global Warming! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 16, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440 "2013-08-16T18:57:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 96
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1901 "2014-02-17T14:56:52Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > “normally the jet stream blows straight west to east” [Look at this map](http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/noaa/noaa.gif), no fucking straight lines, we’ll all gonna die. Everybody knows [that it’s NEVER flooded in England before](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_England_flood_of_February_1287). Snow in Atlanta every ten years or so is as normal as the tide rising every six hours or so. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1902 "2014-02-17T14:57:56Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Don’t try and steal my material. You can’t pull it off. No need to pull it off - it’s so weak it’s fallen off on its own and rolled under the sofa. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1903 "2014-02-17T16:28:24Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Don’t try and steal my material. You can’t pull it off. Hey, let me try: Uh, herp… … … derp!!!1! Okay, I concede that you are superior at this. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1904 "2014-02-17T16:32:19Z")
Eh, my line was better. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1905 "2014-02-17T16:53:57Z")
Geez, I can remember when you were a nice guy. > [@A polite person vents](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-polite-person-vents/76738/1): > > I am, fundamentally, a nice guy. At least I believe I am, and others have said so too. I use “please” and “thank you”. I hold doors open for people regardless of gender, age or physical condition. I try to take into consideration other people’s views, and to interact with them in a constructive and helpful manner. That’s just the kind of guy I am. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1906 "2014-02-17T17:07:38Z")
I’m still a nice guy. Doesn’t mean I have to put up with other people’s bullshit. And jeeezus, a quote from 13 years ago? Still, I appreciate the reminder that I once used the phrase “pignippled dickweeds”. That’s definitely a keeper. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1907 "2014-02-17T17:09:09Z")
I enjoyed the rant. Now go use some fossil fuels and then come back and act all better than everybody. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1908 "2014-02-17T17:12:36Z")
Don’t make me get out the shrimp fork… ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1909 "2014-02-17T17:26:23Z")
Don’t make me break out the NCDC data sets. You won’t like it. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1910 "2014-02-17T23:11:19Z")
Can’t we just be friends and each [do our own part](http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2014/jan/30/wind-turbines-are-disastrous-birds/). ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1911 "2014-02-18T03:34:25Z")
I consider everyone here my friend. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1912 "2014-02-18T10:59:18Z")
I was going to start a Pit thread "[You can call them stupid all you want…in the Pit. That’s what the Pit is for. [/QUOTE] “]Why you are stupid]([QUOTE=Idle Thoughts;17112303)”, but then I realized that is sort of redundant. And unnecessary. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1913 "2014-02-18T11:12:18Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Don’t make me break out the NCDC data sets. You won’t like it. The way you abuse data, no, I probably won’t. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1914 "2014-02-18T11:23:52Z")
Oh fuck, the fuckheads now think "the data is being “abused”. It must suck being a fuckhead. I look at something like the [GISS trend for the NH Cold season](http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/nmaps.cgi?year_last=2014&month_last=1&sat=4&sst=3&type=trends&mean_gen=1106&year1=2002&year2=2013&base1=1951&base2=1980&radius=250&pol=pol) and go, “Hmm, that’s strange”, while the fuckhead looks at it and has some kind of fit. I’m all like, “Well, lets look at [the Warm season](http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/nmaps.cgi?year_last=2014&month_last=1&sat=4&sst=3&type=trends&mean_gen=0506&year1=2002&year2=2013&base1=1951&base2=1980&radius=250&pol=pol)”, and when it show a .06 rise, that explains why the global mean is negative, but in summer it still looks like global warming. The fuckhead is screaming at this point, having a tantrum. I’m all like, “Hey, calm the fuck down OK?”. Emotions are not part of science. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1915 "2014-02-18T11:26:32Z")
Then I notice that even in the summer[Alaska and the Being sea area shows dramatic cooling](http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/nmaps.cgi?year_last=2014&month_last=1&sat=4&sst=3&type=trends&mean_gen=0506&year1=2004&year2=2013&base1=1951&base2=1980&radius=250&pol=pol). So I sniff around, look at different time periods, the NCDC records, and find that yes indeed, since 2003 Alaska has seen a huge drop in both winter and annual mean temperatures, except for BARROW OF COURSE. Fuck you BP, fuck you Exxon. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1916 "2014-02-18T12:07:36Z")
I’m quite sure almost no one gets my ironic humor. Not that I give a shit, but still. Nobody? Not one fucking person? Just kidding, I still don’t give a fuck. > [@FXMastermind](#): > > Well, there is little doubt the predictions of the IPCC and the consensus and the models were right. > > [Global warming set to bring colder, snowier winters](http://environmentalresearchweb.org/cws/article/news/48293) > > [Cold Winters Driven By Global Warming](http://news.discovery.com/earth/cold-winter-snow-weather-global-warming-101222.htm) > > Damn you global warming. Damn you all to hell. The first link is about the now familair Cohen et al(2012) > [@](#): > > Jan 13, 2012 > Global warming set to bring colder, snowier winters > > The world is getting warmer, **which should mean warmer winters** - right? Wrong - a new study shows that global warming produces colder winters and heavier dumps of snow for large swathes of the northern hemisphere. > > In Canada it was dubbed ‘Snowmageddon’, while the Brits called it ‘The Big Freeze’. Across Europe and the eastern United States temperatures plummeted for weeks on end during the winter of 2009/2010 and heavy snowfall caused major disruption. And then it happened all over again during the winter of 2010/2011, causing many to question whether global warming was happening at all. > > **Now research suggests that colder winters have become more frequent over the past two decades, and were likely a product of global warming**. It’s funny, but the global warmers are the ones that have the hardest time accepting these facts, Talk about deniers. Ofr course just as soon as they get it, and realize, uh, yeah, winters are fucking worse, they jump on the bandwagon, and start preaching about how this was predicted and it’s global warming. I am not kidding. **They actually fucking do that**. The second link was > [@](#): > > **Cold Winters Driven By Global Warming** > DEC 22, 2010 03:00 AM ET Which is a different story, but related. In 2010 the denial was of a different sort. > [@](#): > > **Bitingly cold weather wreaked havoc across Europe in the winter months of 2005-2006** , dumping snow in southern Spain and plunging eastern Europe and Russia into an unusually – and deadly – deep freeze. > > **Another sustained cold streak in 2009-2010, gave Britain its coldest winter in 14 years** , and wreaked transportation havoc across the continent. This year seems poised to deliver a repeat performance. Back then it was either high pressure “causing” the weather, or (not in this link) changes to the jet streams, Rossby waves, but still “caused” by global warming. > [@](#): > > Climate skeptics who question the gravity of global warming or that humans are to blame point to the deep chills as confirmation of their doubts. > > **Such assertions, counter scientists, mistakenly conflate the long-term patterns of climate with the short-term vagaries of weather** , and ignore regional variation in climate change impacts. The story was just starting to change from “oh it’s just natural variations” or “there will still be the occasional cold winter”, to “Oh it’s BECAUSE of global warming”. > [@](#): > > The result, according to a modeling study published earlier this month the Journal of Geophysical Research, is a strong high-pressure system over the newly exposed sea which brings cold polar air, swirling counter-clockwise, into Europe. Of course most people have scant memories or no knowledge of any of this. They just know the winters have become un-fucking-believable, and when they hear shit like the above, they pretty much lose all faith in their leaders, or the shitbags repeating this steaming pile of pseudo-scientific horseshit. So it changed from 2010 to now. First it was > [@](#): > > **Such assertions, counter scientists, mistakenly conflate the long-term patterns of climate with the short-term vagaries of weather** , and ignore regional variation in climate change impacts. [http://news.discovery.com/earth/cold-winter-snow-weather-global-warming-101222.htm](http://news.discovery.com/earth/cold-winter-snow-weather-global-warming-101222.htm) Now it’s a “long term trend driven by decreasing sea ice, due to global warming”. Shameless horseshit. Such is climate science. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1917 "2014-02-18T13:23:58Z")
Do go on. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1918 "2014-02-18T13:25:17Z")
You’re a moaron. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1919 "2014-02-18T13:40:18Z")
> [@](#): > > Climate skeptics who question the gravity of global warming or that humans are to blame point to the deep chills as confirmation of their doubts. F[sub]12[/sub] = G (m[sub]1[/sub]m[sub]2[/sub]/r[sup]2[/sup][sub]12[/sub]) F[sub]23[/sub] = G (m[sub]2[/sub]m[sub]3[/sub]/r[sup]2[/sup][sub]23[/sub]) F[sub]34[/sub] = G (m[sub]3[/sub]m[sub]4[/sub]/r[sup]2[/sup][sub]34[/sub]) … Are we imposing human emotions on global warming again? Look, it’s okay to blame our own parents for the worthless genetic material they gave us, but I honestly don’t think global warming is stupid enough to blame gravity. I was out on a date with her a few weeks ago, and she seemed fairly well adjusted. At least as well as could be expected from a woman who owns four cats. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440/1920 "2014-02-18T18:33:49Z")
Let me show you an example of why I don’t believe the alarmists, as well as the doomsters, warmists and idiots who preach climate, all the while talking down to everyone. [How to talk to a climate skeptic](http://scienceblogs.com/illconsidered/2008/07/how-to-talk-to-a-sceptic/) > [@](#): > > **Contradictory Evidence** > It’s cold today in Wagga Wagga > > Antarctic Ice is Growing > > Satellites Show Cooling Just a quick look at this ancient tome shows why he was wrong, and wrong in a way that makes him look like an idiot. (and he hasn’t updated it) Antarctic Ice is Growing - quite true, and it was true then Satellites Show Cooling - still true, and it was true then When I get time I might go through all of it, but on the face of it, major fail going on. And the fuckheads would use sources like this to “debunk” what they called deniers. Priceless. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440.md?page=95) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440.md?page=97)