# I'm sick of this Global Warming!

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**Created:** [August 16, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sick-of-this-global-warming/666440 "2013-08-16T18:57:18Z")\
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> [@brazil84](#):
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> Given that the 1800s were the end of the Little Ice Age, this seems like pretty much a no-brainer to me, but I am curious as to your opinion.

Well you are much more open minded about his opinion than I am, at this point. People who make shit up, and then weasel out of admitting they just made something up, are trolls. Or maybe just full of shit. YMMV

Certainly the alarmists try to tar all who disagree with them, in any way, with a wide brush. It’s like politics, rather than science. Rabid politics, not the civil kind. It’s why I found years ago, that showing them fact based information just doesn’t matter. They made up their minds first, so the scientific method is useless. For example, from the GD topic, where some people still think US winters (along with the world) are warming faster than ever, faster than any other season.

> [@Is global warming falsifiable?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-global-warming-falsifiable/687786/716):
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> I don’t expect a believer to be able to see it. But for anyone looking for the actual state of things, it’s pretty easy to see. Just how climatecentral fools gullible people is another topic. But this is an example of how global warming can never be falsified.
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> Remember, the claim made is “While the U.S. as a whole has seen a warming trend that has raised annual average temperatures by 1.3°F over the past 100 years, warming varies seasonally, **and it’s winter that has seen the fastest warming**.”
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> [Here’s summer 1915-2014](http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/nmaps.cgi?sat=4&sst=0&type=trends&mean_gen=0603&year1=1915&year2=2014&base1=1951&base2=1980&radius=250&pol=rob)
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> [Here’s winter 1915-2014](http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/nmaps.cgi?sat=4&sst=0&type=trends&mean_gen=1203&year1=1915&year2=2014&base1=1951&base2=1980&radius=250&pol=rob)
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> They lied. It’s not true. But the facts don’t matter, which is why nothing can ever matter, global warming isn’t scientific.

ClimateCentral is just an example of the deception and dishonesty that much of the global warming “movement” spews every day. The [study mentioned is here](http://www.climatecentral.org/news/winters-are-warming-all-across-the-us-15590). Even using their own data, a scientific person can see the problem, (they used 1912-2012 for their long term data), which is the simple fact is, that for almost half of the US, winters have not warmed in the last hundred years.

Even worse, looking at the 100 year trend, globally, using the NASA GISS data, you can see the serious problem for global warming theory.

[winter 1912-2012](http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/nmaps.cgi?sat=4&sst=3&type=trends&mean_gen=1203&year1=1912&year2=2012&base1=1951&base2=1980&radius=250&pol=rob) trend .80 C  
[summer 1912-2012](http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/nmaps.cgi?sat=4&sst=3&type=trends&mean_gen=0603&year1=1912&year2=2012&base1=1951&base2=1980&radius=250&pol=rob) trend .79 C

If, as the theory assumes, greenhouse warming is the cause, we should see a winter increase much greater than the summer. We can switch to the more recent warming period, which is always popular with alarmists.

[summer 1970-2014](http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/nmaps.cgi?sat=4&sst=3&type=trends&mean_gen=0603&year1=1970&year2=2014&base1=1951&base2=1980&radius=250&pol=rob) trend .63 C  
[winter 1970-2014](http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/nmaps.cgi?sat=4&sst=3&type=trends&mean_gen=1203&year1=1970&year2=2014&base1=1951&base2=1980&radius=250&pol=rob) trend .59 C

This used one of the coldest periods in recent history to start the trend, but it actually makes the global warming appear to be due to something besides an enhanced greenhouse effect. (you should be objecting that since the land is supposed to show the most warming, just use the land figures)

Sadly, land only doesn’t change the trends much at all.

> [@brazil84](#):
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> Are you seriously asserting that rejecting the “hockey stick” graph is equivalent to denying that temperatures have increased over the last 100 years?

It’s that I question and look at everything, that is what they think deniers do. And once that religion labels you, they stop listening.

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