Waldo, you haven’t gotten some brilliant gotcha.
I missed a single post by Brazil, and addressed it immediately after. I assessed their beliefs on climate change based on their conduct in this thread, and their vociferous use of terms like “warmists”. I never even said it was factually their beliefs. I said I assumed it was.
That’s your amazing lapse on my part. You smell blood, and want to pounce, I get it. You go girl.
I liked the Original Waldo Pepper much better. 
Well, that sort of assuming is bad. Heck, it’s what you insult me for, remember?
But, yes: you assumed that brazil84 would hold a certain position, and assumed that FX would do likewise, and assumed they wouldn’t answer when asked directly, after which you remarked that FX was a profoundly inept communicator, and that brazil84 is “so invested in being a Socratic cock-hole that he isn’t likely to clearly state it.”
So, yes, okay, granted, it’s especially bad that you made that last assumption after brazil84 had already given an answer that was (a) clear, and (b) the opposite of what you’d assumed – but while the timing admittedly makes it especially egregious, parts (a) and (b) are already pretty objectionable, IMHO.
You then claimed that I have some crazy fantasy of being an expert, and then claimed that I’m assuming – “assuming,” that’s a good one – that my dabblings can overturn the work of experts. So, no, it’s not one lapse on your part; it’s that you’re full to brimming with false assumptions about other posters, wedged between the insults. I don’t see that the false assumptions, or the insults, are helpful.
(And doubly so for me. I mean, jeez, with the other guys, you made sure to couch your badmouthing as assumptions, granting that they might show you up with their answers if asked directly; with me, you skip straight to vitriol for what I ain’t said, with neither a caveat nor a question in sight.)
You and me both. 
No, really, I’d be interested in seeing cites for all the data and research you’ve read, that says the divergence is all the sun’s doing.
Unless that was just a lie, of course?
By the way, my basic position on this issue is also that in all likelihood, man is not the primary cause of late 20th century warming.
(Notice that I am happy to lay out my position.)
Warmers have a tendency to dishonestly gloss over the distinction between man contributing to warming and man being the primary cause of warming. Wolfpup tried to play that game in the recent GD thread.
here is a blog post in which the poster accuses researcher John Cook of playing this game.
Like I thought, dishonesty, not any desire to learn.
I’m still looking into it. The real question is, did mankind cause the recent cooling?
yeah, but I can’t blame anyone for doing that shit. The fate of all mankind, indeed the very world depends on them being right.
Cook is a complete tool, but as always, nothing is going to get through his religious belief on the matter.
Oh, you put enough weasely "possible"s and "may be"s in there, but that is the gist of your implication: “it’s not just man, it’s also the sun”:
All I’m asking for is the cites that might lead you to even consider that. All you’re doing is avoiding giving them.
I would say probably not. There’s essentially no direct evidence; no compelling theoretical reason why this might be; and as far as anyone knows, recent temperature and changes in temperature are within the range of natural variation.
The issue of cold is going to be starkly apparent in a few days, even to the most die hard deluded warmists, because when the NCDC data gets posted, I can show you exactly and with no argument, that Chicago (and many areas around Chicago), just went through the coldest four month period in history. Dec-March 2014 was the coldest four month period on record.
Which is a really hard record to break btw, since the extreme cold winters of the past were really cold. February for Ill was the seventh coldest on record, which is actually saying something, since the six other cold Februaries were extremely cold.
Is it an anomaly? Nope. The February 20 year trend for Ill is -4.1 F a decade. In other words, in the last twenty years the February average temperature has dropped by 8.2 degrees F
The thirty year trend is -.5 F, but that doesn’t tell the story, because it changed so much in 1995
But this four month record, that is quite startling. In the midst of warming, we see the coldest ever four month period, for a major population area of the US. At the same time the media is still pimping “warmer than ever”.
I’m sure the warmer would like to try and sell this four months of colder than hell as warming, but even they can’t bring themselves to be that much of a tool.
Ahhh, I see your problem. You think global warming means it gets warmer everywhere, and if it gets colder anywhere, it disproves global warming. It is a simple mistake to make, misunderstanding just what global warming means. But now that you know you were mistaken, there is not much to argue about.
You are welcome!
People like the above don’t actually know much at all.
I would link you to the scientific discussion about the current global picture, but it’s not allowed here.
“Where ignorance is bliss, tis folly to be wise”
“It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so.” ~~Mark Twain
THE IMPRESSIVE COLD THIS PAST WINTER CONTINUED DURING
MARCH…WITH A MONTHLY AVERAGE TEMPERATURE OF ONLY 31.7 DEGREES
FOR THE MONTH. THIS RANKS AS THE 19TH COLDEST MARCH ON RECORD IN
CHICAGO. HOWEVER…OF EVEN MORE INTEREST IS THE FACT THAT WITH THE
ABNORMALLY COLD MARCH ACROSS THE AREA…THIS MADE THE AVERAGE
TEMPERATURE FOR THE DECEMBER THROUGH MARCH PERIOD IN CHICAGO 22.0
DEGREES…WHICH IS THE COLDEST SUCH PERIOD ON RECORD FOR CHICAGO
DATING BACK TO 1872!
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/news/display_cmsstory.php?wfo=lot&storyid=101458&source=0
What conclusion should we draw from a cold winter in Chicago?
Now is the time to try and side track the discussion, rather than discuss reality.
You see? That’s how the Dope works, you ignore what you don’t like, and focus on how the global temperature is still going … oops. You can’t really do that when the global mean isn’t going up.
Oh well, somebody will rationalize everything. Your ignorance is secure.
There was an entire topic about how the cold NH winters are bringing down the global mean, about asymmetric climate change, but you know, it’s locked, and I’m sure nobody can open a new one.
So fuck it.
So you are abandoning that bogus argument?
Is Floridastill in the NH?
Particularly since warmists are extremely reluctant to (1) offer a precise definition of “global warming” or (2) explain what weather and/or climate is NOT consistent with “global warming.”
Nor does it help that warmists have been known to seize upon local events as evidence of supporting their ill-defined theory. Upon seeing this, a naive person might conclude that there are some types of local events which might potentially undermine the theory.
Still waiting for 3 examples – but I won’t hold my breath.
“Nothing can disprove global warming, it’s just a fact”
Remember that xkcd topic I wanted to start in great debates? Because of the deceptive xkcd comic and the fuckhead website it was based on?