The GISS maps actually show all the data GISS collects. So the anomalies both cold and warm are clearly shown.
Same for the trend maps.
The ones that are mostly orange? Those trend maps?
Willful ignorance or something else? I really wonder. How is it even possible to not grasp the simplest facts? What drives this sort of denial of reality?
Is it it an inability to read? Not comprehending the analysis? How can anyone be ignorant enough to be able to type reasonable English, but not follow a scientific argument at all?
This is an example of what AGW is supposed to look like, with warming in winter, especially at high latitudes. Note the Zonal mean graphic below the map, it shows warming almost everywhere, but has this peak in the graph at 60 degrees north. That is an AGW signature, according to AGW theory, which is an assumption about how CO2 is supposed to show up as the main driver of climate change. Warming in the NH winters, a key part of warming theory.
It’s not as visible here, but still worth looking at, so you can follow the next part.
Here is a far different trend, looking at the Zonal mean graph will probably help you see this, since you can’t grasp what the numbers mean.
And here is the trend that really makes the CO2 as main driver of climate theory fall apart. It’s obviously not CO2 causing climate change at the moment, unless you completely change the theory, which is actually a possibility.
If you look at the February trend, which land-only is -.35C, there is a curious disconnect that a true warmer undergoes. Add the oceans back in, it’s still -.24C
Once again, note the zonal mean graphic, it shows clearly why we know winter warming isn’t happening in the NH, as if all the other evidence isn’t enough.
You can use a twenty year trend and see it just as well.
Even a thirty year trend shows the cooling for the areas that are showing this unexpected trend. The zonal mean shows the problem for the theory.
February trend, that is what warmer winters look like.
Colder NH winters, with arctic warming evident
February trend, which can’t be happening with current AGW theory.
Obviously the theory is wrong, or something else is dominating the climate.
That’s what reality is telling the us. It doesn’t matter how many years the believer denies this (it’s been over eight years now), nature could give a fuck what you believe.
And even the GISS data, which is certainly biased to make it seem warmer, still shows the reality.
And of course we are not seeing colder NH summers(for most areas)
The NH summer is interesting for other reasons. What is causing the Pacific to both cool and warm like it is?
We know so little about long term cycles, it’s madness to claim the science is settled. But Hubris is usually a defining characteristic of experts.
Do you ever choke on your drool?
There is another explanation, but I don’t like it. Because it means the data isn’t good, and for whatever reason, that fucks up the ability to even be scientific about things, if the data is no good.
That the theory is wrong, that is no big deal. Science rarely gets it right on the first try. But if it’s other factors, like a combination of natural cycles, trade wind changes, the sun, and particulate pollution, contrails and deforestation and unexpected feedbacks, all of these on the table btw, then the theory could still be sound. It’s just mother nature having the last word again.
So it is possible the AGW will return and seriously fuck things up around 2050. Or something else will happen. Predicting the future is hard.
So we might as well not even try. Because if we are wrong, we will have more sustainable fuel sources and less pollution, even if the planet isn’t warming, while if we are right, millions die in a climatic disaster.
Perhaps – spending billions of dollars on a bad prediction may very well be worse than making no prediction at all.
Of course your prediction combines the worst of both worlds. Not only is it baseless, but upon closer scrutiny it turns out you aren’t predicting anything at all.
More details on the definition of global warming here:
I’m sure that FX also believes the commonly held wisdom of economists that stocks are a good investment is equally faulty. I mean, after all, the Dow Jones hasn’t increased since April 3. Further Spherix Inc stock is at an all time low. This clearly debunks the myth that stocks rise in price over time. All those speculators investing millions of dollars are just fooling themselves.
Well then you are some kind of idiot.
Meanwhile, in the real world
The rapid warming of the arctic, and loss of sea ice, are events that don’t match the consensus climate models. (they did not predict the rapid change, it actually happened far faster than the models predicted)
Black carbon (soot) and good old fashioned air pollution, from burning coal and other dirty combustion methods, is a rapid and real change to the atmosphere, and it’s very likely it is responsible for a lot of the changes we have observed. Not CO2 levels.
Knowing what is actually happening is important. Blaming everything on CO2 levels is an idiotic move.
And if you live in parts the US, you don’t need anyone to tell you how fucking cold it still is. It hasn’t just seemed like a long brutal winter, it actually was a long brutal winter. The worst ever in some places.
Blaming it on “warming” is about as stupid as you can possibly get.
So “global warming” simply means an increase in global surface temperatures regardless of the cause or amount of increase?
Would it surprise you to learn that I (a “denier” by some accounts) believe in global warming by that definition?
The cause is given in the same page.
Multiple positive feedbacks are enumerated here:
http://guymcpherson.com/2013/01/climate-change-summary-and-update/
So what exactly is your definition of “global warming”?
Please just quote the part of that page which provides the definition. Either that or provide a definition in your own words.
Not going to happen. There is no definition on the page, much less an explanation of the theory, or how we can know if the climate change is due to human factors.
Why this basic information is so hard to find (and it certainly is) remains a great mystery. It’s why GIGO abandoned the thread, and why so many claims about global warming sound like religious woo woo beliefs.
Like the latest nonsense, where global warming can cause winters to be mild and warm, with little snow and ice, or record cold, with record amounts of ice and snow.
The concept of global averages still eludes you, I see.
What a pathetic attempt to preach down to people.
http://guymcpherson.com/2013/01/climate-change-summary-and-update/
No you fuckhead, they are busy keeping the roads free of ice and snow, trying to break the ice to get shipping going again on the great lakes, and working hard to get coal to the power plants to meet the record demand. These people you dismiss (because they don’t jump at your demands) are the reason you can sit and type out your screeds, why you eat and stay warm, why you can drive and fly at will. You dismiss everything because your cause isn’t first on their list of things to do, with out realizing how stupid you actually are.
You are a lunatic, and you don’t even know it. You present things as black or white, with yourself as good and all who disagree as evil, you complete fuckhead.
You think you know everything, and you don’t know the first thing about climate, much less climate change.
Shut the fuck up you complete waste of time. I’m not reading anymore, you blew your chance. Fuckheads like that are a dime a dozen, like squadrons of trolls online, bleating like sheep, unable to comprehend anything, but sure they know it all.
Fuck off.
I tend to ignore idiots, especially troll face idiots, who can’t grasp that every global GISS map is showing the global average.
The zonal mean graph shows the latitudes, and illustrates how different the current trends are from the warming periods. But it requires a scientific mind to grasp this.
I don’t waste time trying to get some fuckhead to understand, because they don’t want to understand. Like the current (once again) horrific trend of palm trees dying from the cold in Florida. (below 20 F)
The coconuts are long gone from the extreme cold (past winters), damaged even down in to the “safe” areas of south Florida. You can’t ignore cold damage, no amount of alarmiism and hype and talking about warming will change reality. Cold gets attention, and you can’t ignore it.
That the models predicted the complete opposite, and the warmists can’t admit it, that’s the real travesty of science.
Trolling. If it was there, you would quote it.
Go troll somewhere else.