# I'm so fucking lonely **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 18, 2003, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-fucking-lonely/149511 "2003-01-18T19:14:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Tony\_Montana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@Tony\_Montana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tony_Montana)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-fucking-lonely/149511/81 "2003-01-19T21:22:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*Hmm? And you know what it is like to be gay, how? \*\* > [@](#): > > “\” Conversly,And you know what it is like to be straight how? ---
**Author:** ![samarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@samarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samarm)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-fucking-lonely/149511/82 "2003-01-19T21:33:55Z")
> [@](#): > > …if only because women do not wake up to throbbing erections that must be satisfied. I hear ya on that one, brother. What the hell is all that about, anyway? Did God not want men being able to pee, straight after they get out of bed? ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-fucking-lonely/149511/83 "2003-01-19T21:41:57Z")
> [@](#): > > Conversly,And you know what it is like to be straight how I live in a heterosexual society. Virtually everyone I know is heterosexual. The vast majority of relationships I have observed have been heterosexual. Gay people know much more about straight people than straight people know of gay people. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-fucking-lonely/149511/84 "2003-01-19T21:44:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Creative\_Munster \* > \*\*If you are really at your wits end, call an escort service. They will provide you with a girl who is weight/height appropriate. Maybe the simple act of getting laid will make it easier for you to approach the opposite sex without a hard on. Just a thought. \*\* There are way too many people who think that it’s all just a desperate plea for sex, and that the way to solve this problem is just to get laid. He’s talking about loneliness, not sexual gratification. They are not even close to being the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![Tony\_Montana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@Tony\_Montana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tony_Montana)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-fucking-lonely/149511/85 "2003-01-19T21:53:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*I live in a heterosexual society. Virtually everyone I know is heterosexual. The vast majority of relationships I have observed have been heterosexual. Gay people know much more about straight people than straight people know of gay people. \*\* By that logic(observation), in theory **Manda JO** _could_ know what it’s like to be Gay ? ---
**Author:** ![Tony\_Montana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@Tony\_Montana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tony_Montana)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-fucking-lonely/149511/86 "2003-01-19T22:19:29Z")
Yes, **GuanoLad** we’ve strayed off. I’m just trying to get a handle here… Apologies to the OP. ---
**Author:** ![samarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@samarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samarm)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-fucking-lonely/149511/87 "2003-01-19T22:24:36Z")
**GuanoLad** : I actually thought **Creative\_Munster** was implying sarcasm? I agree that getting laid won’t solve his problems. There was a lot of good advice on page 1 of this thread, but I’m not sure if **Blalron** is still visiting the thread. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-fucking-lonely/149511/88 "2003-01-19T22:38:27Z")
> [@](#): > > By that logic(observation), in theory Manda JO could know what it’s like to be Gay ? Oh? Does she live in a society where homosexuality is the norm? Where virtually every relationship she sees is homosexual? Where homosexuality is the subject og every song, movie, and TV show? Where she and every one she knows was raised by gay people? And what planet is this? ---
**Author:** ![Tony\_Montana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@Tony\_Montana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tony_Montana)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-fucking-lonely/149511/89 "2003-01-19T22:48:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*Oh? Does she live in a society where homosexuality is the norm? Where virtually every relationship she sees is homosexual? Where homosexuality is the subject og every song, movie, and TV show? Where she and every one she knows was raised by gay people? > > And what planet is this? \*\* I am an american Indian,full blood I grew up in a white society with white friends,yet I can never claim to know what it is to be white. ---
**Author:** ![foxfiregrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3da27b/32.png) [@foxfiregrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foxfiregrrl)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-fucking-lonely/149511/90 "2003-01-19T23:26:01Z")
Oh, come on, **gobear**. I’m gay, and I know that I don’t understand a lot of aspects of heterosexual society. Yes, we’re bombarded with straightness from the media, but people also see gayness in the media, just not as much. More does not equal a better picture. If you’ve never been straight, you’ve never going to understand. You can’t know how someone feels until you’ve been inside their shoes. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-fucking-lonely/149511/91 "2003-01-19T23:47:56Z")
> [@](#): > > If you’ve never been straight, you’ve never going to understand. If you don’t understand the differences between heterosexual and homosexual interactions and relationships, you’re just unobservant. In any event, we’ve hijacked this guy’s thread long enough. ---
**Author:** ![samarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@samarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samarm)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-fucking-lonely/149511/92 "2003-01-19T23:51:22Z")
If I start a new thread on this subjet specifically, will you join in? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2003, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-fucking-lonely/149511/93 "2003-01-20T00:10:18Z")
Sure. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Juniper200](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@Juniper200](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Juniper200)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2003, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-fucking-lonely/149511/94 "2003-01-20T00:17:58Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by GuanoLad_ > \*\*There are way too many people who think that it’s all just a desperate plea for sex, and that the way to solve this problem is just to get laid. > > He’s talking about loneliness, not sexual gratification. They are not even close to being the same thing.\*\* > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Blalron, in response to gobear’s post about not having to court guys or worry about pregnancy/menstruation and receiving guaranteed head._ > **I envy you.** My first post to this thread was made under the assumption that you were correct, GuanoLad, and this _wasn’t_ all about sex. But if you still believe that after reading Blalron’s reply to gobear and his posts about his popularity/weight/attractiveness “standards,” I have a bridge to sell you. ---
**Author:** ![samarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@samarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samarm)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2003, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-fucking-lonely/149511/95 "2003-01-20T00:45:59Z")
btw, I’ve started a new thread on the straight / gay thing, to prevent further hijacking of this thread: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=157575](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=157575) ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2003, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-fucking-lonely/149511/96 "2003-01-20T00:52:52Z")
One of my problems: Lots of people recommend I go out and go to social gatherings. I’m not good at starting conversations in public settings. I’m much better at a one on one conversation. In group gatherings, all the other guys outshine me, they can think of witty things to say faster than me, they get flirted with whereas I get left in the dust. I feel restrained and can’t really get to know a person in that situation. I try to do the best I can to remedy this: Getting a phone number or email. When I talk on a one on one setting I know I can shine. I can almost always get an email address, but I seldom if ever get a response to my emails. The girls always mumble something about being too “busy” to check. Getting a dialogue going that way has failed for me. As for a phone number? They won’t give it to me. When I offer them my number instead, they NEVER call me. ---
**Author:** ![0887](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/0/977dab/32.png) [@0887](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/0887)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2003, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-fucking-lonely/149511/97 "2003-01-20T01:12:58Z")
People base too much on looks. I think a meeting of the minds is much better than to reach out and touch someone. I am not alone I am married but you can be lonely anyway. I am lonely and I like it like that and I plan on staying that way. I have my pc to keep me happy and my partner is not too far away. I don’t look for happiness in someone anymore. I make my own happiness. 0887 ---
**Author:** ![0887](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/0/977dab/32.png) [@0887](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/0887)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2003, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-fucking-lonely/149511/98 "2003-01-20T01:26:09Z")
Well Blalron it seems you have a problem. I would always e-mail someone. Do you have good manners? Do you keep yourself clean that is important to a woman. I take it you must still be in highschool since you worry about popularity. When you get older popularity seems foolish. Hang in there you will get a girl but don’t think she has to be perfect. It is okay to be a little overweight. If you have too get a pretty overweight girl she can always loose weight. If you don’t like ugly then don’t date an ugly girl it is forever. I believe a meeting of the minds is the answer. 0887:) ---
**Author:** ![Estilicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Estilicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Estilicon)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2003, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-fucking-lonely/149511/99 "2003-01-20T01:56:54Z")
Well as long as this is a message board let’s share personal stuff hoping that no hacker traces it back to source and post it all over the net 🙂 I am not lonely but a loneler. I am a 23 years old man (or boy, I just don’t know anymore). I like women, in fact I love them but I never got the burning desire of the OP for someone elses touch. I don’t know if that is uncommon. I am not shy, I have lot’s of friends (both male and female). I have fun both in parties or alone in my house. I just don’t know what is wrong with me. Lately for the first time in years I have been strongly interested in girl, I can safely say she has become in the last couple of months in my best friend, at least at the beguinning. We share the same interests. At first I didn’t view her as more than a friend because she had a boyfriend (in my conservative mind she was “taken”). No I just don’t know anymore, I think a lot of her but my emotional handicap has not allowed me to decide if I am in love or just a crush. If it is the second thing I prefer to control my feelings, in that way I will conserve my friend. I think I should talk with here, you can all imagine that I am hardly an expert in people feelings but sometimes I got the impression that I am more than a friend to her. On the bright side, this was better than keeping a diary I will do it more often 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![0887](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/0/977dab/32.png) [@0887](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/0887)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2003, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-fucking-lonely/149511/100 "2003-01-20T02:04:27Z")
🙂 I believe to be friends is the most important and a common ground. as I said a meeting of the mind. I think if two people can talk about almost anything and not have your trust betrayed then that sounds like love. There is always a few things you may not feel comfortable talking about but that should come in time.😉 0887 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-fucking-lonely/149511.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-fucking-lonely/149511.md?page=6)