# I'm so goddamn tired of dental problems. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 10, 2014, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-goddamn-tired-of-dental-problems/683365 "2014-03-10T17:42:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2014, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-goddamn-tired-of-dental-problems/683365/61 "2014-03-12T23:18:51Z")
Well like it was said, it’s hard to kill the all. But some Listerine and peroxide do a pretty good job of laying waste to them for a day or so. Imagine if there was a vaccine ---
**Author:** ![rsat3acr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@rsat3acr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rsat3acr)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-goddamn-tired-of-dental-problems/683365/62 "2014-03-13T00:11:23Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > No, a lot of people, and dentists, still use mercury fillings. The two are actually connected, as the mercury fillings pretty much lead to root canals. No, tooth decay leads to root canals, the fillings are an intermediate step but not a cause. > [@bump](#): > > A crown doesn’t necessarily equate to a root canal, although all root canals do equate to a crown, if that makes sense. No all root canals do not need crowns. It depends on the amount of tooth that needs to be replaced. Of my six root canals three don’t have crowns. they are 40,37 and 35 years old. I’ve been doing root canals for 28 years and do a lot that dont need crowns. In fact the one I did yesterday morning will only get a filling. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-goddamn-tired-of-dental-problems/683365/63 "2014-03-13T00:25:36Z")
> [@bump](#): > > \ > You should seriously look into having your dentist recheck how those fit together. I had one of mine hurt and be sore all the time, and it turned out that it was touching the tooth above it when I shut my mouth, and the pressure caused it to constantly be pissed off. When they adjusted the way they fit together(the bit with the blue waxpaper), the pain vanished and hasn’t come back. Since then, I’ve been extra careful about that step- making them check it 3-4 times at least. I don’t think it’s the fit - the crowns in question are from many different visits, from different dentists, and I’ve had the bites checked multiple times on each area. I think it’s just the way my mouth is. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-goddamn-tired-of-dental-problems/683365/64 "2014-03-13T11:45:48Z")
I know better, I really do. It’s just that teeth are so painfiul, and so expensive, and so valuable, I find it hard to let my fellow man suffer. > [@FXMastermind](#): > > Amalgam fillings are from Satan. No seriously. They are true evil, and not just because of the mercury, they have to drill a shit ton of tooth out to be able to use them, which weakens the tooth, forever. This is a fact, based on the mechanics of how mercury Amalgam fillings work. AModern safe fillings are nonded, and reuqire very little drilling. > [@FXMastermind](#): > > The real problem is the drill and fill still used by many dentists. … > Yes, but the root canals have their own set of problems, an issue fought tooth and nail (pun intended) by those who do root canals. > > Which we will now see in this topic. The “real problem” is the massive drilling, requited to use mercury Amalgam fillings. It’s criminal tjhat Dentists still do this. > [@simster](#): > > Mercury fillings are a thing of the past - you were talking about Root Canal’s as ‘being the same as Mercury fillings’. > [@Revtim](#): > > FWIW, my current dentist does not use amalgam fillings (I had no idea anybody still did), so your well-intentioned efforts are not needed, at least for me. Thanks anyway. > [@FXMastermind](#): > > … a lot of people, and dentists, still use mercury fillings. The two are actually connected, as the mercury fillings pretty much lead to root canals. > [@rsat3acr](#): > > No, tooth decay leads to root canals, the fillings are an intermediate step but not a cause. We know they are not “the cause”, tooth decay is, but the amount of drilling is the cause of needing a crown, rather than a filling after a root canal. As for the myth of mercury Amalgam as harmless. > [@FXMastermind](#): > > Wrong, that ridiculous “debunking” was shown to be completely false, which is what happens when you don’t use science to investigate. > > [Mercury Must Be Bad – If Not in Vaccines, In Teeth | Science-Based Medicine](http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/mercury-must-be-bad-if-not-in-vaccines-in-teeth/#comment-8545) > > After she realized I was correct, she replied [Mercury Must Be Bad – If Not in Vaccines, In Teeth | Science-Based Medicine](http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/mercury-must-be-bad-if-not-in-vaccines-in-teeth/#comment-8549) > > Note she never retracted the ridiculous “debunking”, much less addressed the issue of mercury. > > It’s why I have a lot disdain for “experts” who don’t know shit about what they are trying to talk about. > [@Helena330](#): > > Back to bitching about teeth, I’m dealing with a sinus infection that was somehow caused by my dental cleaning last week. I could handle that, but the antibiotics are awful, and are messing up my stomach big time giving me the runs. I’m eating yogurt and taking probiotics, but this is still misery. > > I had no idea this could happen, but the doctor told me he sees it all the time. My teeth are in pretty good shape, so no idea what caused it. I do, but I got enough grief with out starting that huge flame gfest of an argument. > [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > Are you actually suggesting the routine use of antibiotics to prevent tooth decay? No, and If I was saying that you could just quote me saying it. I’m talking about wiping ou the strain that causes the tooth rot. As for a vaccine > [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > Yes, it would be nice. I’ve even seen studies using genetically modified bacteria that don’t secrete the acids used to repopulate your oral flora. > > Widespread use of antibiotics ain’t it though. Neither is eradicating all you oral flora. They function as a first line of defense of your innate immune system. Again, nobody is talking about using wide spectrum antibiotics, some of which actually can damage teeth. Just for education purposes, Dentists used to use Cadmium rather than mercury, but stopped when it became obvious that cadmium was areally bad material for humans. Mercury is a really bad material for humans. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-goddamn-tired-of-dental-problems/683365/65 "2014-03-13T15:11:10Z")
Still pointing at the video that is just basically a conspiracy theory. > **[Mercury Fillings](https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4036)** > > Mercury amalgam fillings do not release toxic levels of mercury into the body, and are harmless. > [@](#): > > The same IAOMT representative told me: “No one with any knowledge of these subjects could ever say that the video is quackery as these guys know their stuff and have presented to Congress on multiple times, and have used this video extensively in their campaign. (In all caps : ) THE VIDEO IS AN IRREFUTABLE PIECE OF SCIENTIFIC FACT - PERIOD!” It appears that “irrefutable” has a new definition. Apparently now, it means “completely wrong and deliberately misleading.” Unless he’s asleep all day, you’ve got to figure that Prof. Haley knows that mercury vapor is far heavier than air, and would sink. I see that this comes down to three possibilities. (1) He’s honestly wrong about something this flagrant, which seems unlikely; (2) He is deliberately lying in the video, which seems unlikely; or (3) He explains his position with some excuse like there is mercury vapor mixed in with the water you see rising. All right, let’s assume it’s number 3. Any mercury vapor would still fall; mercury vapor would not remain in solution with water vapor. So whatever vapor we see rising has nothing to do with the mercury amalgam filling said to be in the tooth in the video. Any tooth dipped in water would smoke in exactly the same way. > > Now here’s where I get confused. These guys are not selling anything. All indications are that they’re genuinely concerned with people’s health. They’re educated professionals. Their hypothesis is a fringe idea, but that doesn’t make it wrong. New discoveries often start on the fringe. But if all that’s true, why did they make this video, which is full from beginning to end with flagrant errors and poorly presented evidence? > > Now let me be very clear on one point: I’m not here to say that amalgam fillings are safe. I’m not making any claims about that one way or the other. What I’m saying is that these IAOMT people are supporting their claim badly, with bad science. The claim that amalgam fillings are unsafe may or may not be true, but the claimants have yet to produce any real evidence (that I’ve seen) that passes any close scrutiny. Just as another couple data points: IAOMT opposes the use of flouride, and they also say 85% of dentists are impaired by mercury poisoning. My dentists have never heard of anyone. I guess they must be too impaired to be able to tell. IAOMT might be right about all of this stuff; they’re just not making a very good show of it. > > I will go on the record right now with my personal opinion, whether you care what that is or not: I don’t want anything with mercury going into my mouth when there are alternatives, especially when those alternatives look better cosmetically. In 2006 the FDA did overrule its previous position that amalgam fillings are safe, and say that more study is needed. That’s not saying that they’re unsafe, it’s simply saying that more study is needed. I’ve had amalgam fillings in my mouth my whole life — I even remember playing with the raw mercury on a countertop when my dentist uncle put some of my earliest fillings in, which obviously isn’t too good — and I don’t have any mercury poisoning. I’m not about to get my fillings replaced, but I do choose ceramic fillings now; but mainly because they look better. > > If you’re among those considering having your amalgam fillings removed, don’t take any unnecessary medical procedure lightly. Consult not only with fringe books and videos you find on the Internet, but also consult with your dentist and your family doctor. Also consider the greater surface area contact of wristwatches, rings, and other jewelry if you truly believe yourself to have heavy metal poisoning. Nobody’s ever been proven to have significant levels of mercury in their body from amalgam fillings, so don’t worry too much about it regardless. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-goddamn-tired-of-dental-problems/683365/66 "2014-03-13T16:28:54Z")
It’s a good example of confirmation bias when an otherwise hard nosed scientist sees mercury vapor coming off a filling, and tries desperately to “debunk” what they see with their own eyes. Then when another video is made, showing with out any doubt it is mercury vapor, destroying the debunker completely, they go on as if nothing has happened. It’s an amazing thing to watch happen. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-goddamn-tired-of-dental-problems/683365/67 "2014-03-13T16:32:37Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Ij-51ZZpyF8/hqdefault.jpg "60 MINUTES on Mercury Fillings") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij-51ZZpyF8) I know it won’t matter, but still, ignorance is not only ugly, it’s dangerous ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-goddamn-tired-of-dental-problems/683365/68 "2014-03-13T16:37:20Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > It’s a good example of confirmation bias when an otherwise hard nosed scientist sees mercury vapor coming off a filling, and tries desperately to “debunk” what they see with their own eyes. > > Then when another video is made, showing with out any doubt it is mercury vapor, destroying the debunker completely, they go on as if nothing has happened. > > It’s an amazing thing to watch happen. You can tell from a video the composition of the smoke/vapor? Damn - you got special abilities. > [@FXMastermind](#): > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij-51ZZpyF8](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij-51ZZpyF8) > > I know it won’t matter, but still, ignorance is not only ugly, it’s dangerous Yes - your ignorance and your attempts to spread it are absolutely ugly and dangerous - you should stop now. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-goddamn-tired-of-dental-problems/683365/69 "2014-03-13T16:52:19Z")
> [@simster](#): > > You can tell from a video the composition of the smoke/vapor? Damn - you got special abilities. Yep, FX seems to have \*\*very \*\*special abilities it seems. 😃 > [@simster](#): > > Yes - your ignorance and your attempts to spread it are absolutely ugly and dangerous - you should stop now. What it is clear that he will have to rely on outdated videos that in reality do not demonstrate what the evidence showed later. Logic would tell you that many dentists would had a problem as they handle and use the stuff itself. As the skeptoid guy reports, logic is something that conspiracy theorists do not have. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-goddamn-tired-of-dental-problems/683365/70 "2014-03-13T17:04:48Z")
It’s really just one more example of confirmation bias at work. Eating mercury-tainted seafood will expose you to about 2.3 micrograms per day, but through your digestive tract, which was plenty high enough enough for scientists to call for a worldwide warnings about it. But the fact that a single mercury amalgam filling may release as much as 15 micrograms of mercury per day, which you breath, not eat, that is considered safe by some Dentists. And the EPA, and some other fuckheads who still have no clue. The average individual has eight amalgam fillings and could release up to 120 micrograms of mercury per day. Just from chewing. This is demonstrated, proved, and really isn’t even a matter of debate. (once somebody realizes that it is true, they switch to “oh that amount isn’t harmful” or some other goal post moving denial) Now obviously those amounts won’t kill you. Most people will just have low levels of mercury poisoning. It’s the poor souls who really are effected badly that suffer the most. Like children. But even if none of that mattered, it’s the amount of tooth material that must be removed to use a Civil war era filling material, that’s the real crime. Safe modern materials are bonded, and require removing a very small amount of tooth to use them. Of course THAT fact will be ignored. It always is. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-goddamn-tired-of-dental-problems/683365/71 "2014-03-13T17:27:25Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > It’s really just one more example of confirmation bias at work. Eating mercury-tainted seafood will expose you to about 2.3 micrograms per day, but through your digestive tract, which was plenty high enough enough for scientists to call for a worldwide warnings about it. But the fact that a single mercury amalgam filling may release as much as 15 micrograms of mercury per day, which you breath, not eat, that is considered safe by some Dentists. And the EPA, and some other fuckheads who still have no clue. The average individual has eight amalgam fillings and could release up to 120 micrograms of mercury per day. Just from chewing. On the “worldwide fish warnings” - thats to help remind people to watch how much is consumed on a daily/aggregate basis - precisely due to the potential affects. Again you miss that there are different types of Mercury - and the stuff contained within fillings is not the same as those found in fish. Cite please? (on the amounts released from chewing) > [@FXMastermind](#): > > This is demonstrated, proved, and really isn’t even a matter of debate. (once somebody realizes that it is true, they switch to “oh that amount isn’t harmful” or some other goal post moving denial) If the amount is not harmful - and that seems to be proven fairly conclusively - thats not shifting the goal posts - if its your claim that “any, no matter how small” is proven harmful - BACK IT UP or you’re the one moving the fucking goal posts. > [@FXMastermind](#): > > Now obviously those amounts won’t kill you. Most people will just have low levels of mercury poisoning. It’s the poor souls who really are effected badly that suffer the most. Like children. “low levels” - you mean like homeopathic levels? They do think of the children - the reports specifically talk about caution for those under 6 and steps for those that have reactions, etc. > [@FXMastermind](#): > > But even if none of that mattered, it’s the amount of tooth material that must be removed to use a Civil war era filling material, that’s the real crime. > > Safe modern materials are bonded, and require removing a very small amount of tooth to use them. > > Of course THAT fact will be ignored. It always is. No - that fact is NOT ignored - and its why many dentists (I thought all) have moved away from amalgam fillings - that some have not (or maybe your speaking to other countries, I’m in the US) - or that the amalgam filling still has its place is some cases - is a different question. So - how about a fucking cite on how dentists are not using this new stuff as a general rule? ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-goddamn-tired-of-dental-problems/683365/72 "2014-03-13T17:33:38Z")
The ADA still fully SUPPORTS MERCURY FILLINGS and denies ANY danger or possible damage from them. A lot of fuckhead Dentists STILL USE THEM, including for children. [http://www.ada.org/2468.aspx](http://www.ada.org/2468.aspx) Drilling out enough tooth to use a Civil war method permanently weakens a tooth. Which the ADA denies. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-goddamn-tired-of-dental-problems/683365/73 "2014-03-13T17:35:09Z")
In case you can’t read the first line on the page > [@](#): > > Dental amalgam is considered a safe, affordable and durable material [http://www.ada.org/1741.aspx](http://www.ada.org/1741.aspx) ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-goddamn-tired-of-dental-problems/683365/74 "2014-03-13T17:39:06Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > In case you can’t read the first line on the page > > [http://www.ada.org/1741.aspx](http://www.ada.org/1741.aspx) Since I posted that link to you - I think I am perfectly capable of reading it - now - show some factual evidence that they are wrong. If you can’t do that - and so far you have not - shut the fuck up. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-goddamn-tired-of-dental-problems/683365/75 "2014-03-13T17:45:42Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > In case you can’t read the first line on the page > > [http://www.ada.org/1741.aspx](http://www.ada.org/1741.aspx) [QUOTE=[http://www.ada.org/1741.aspx](http://www.ada.org/1741.aspx)] The FDI World Dental Federation and the World Health Organization concluded in a 1997 consensus statementi: “No controlled studies have been published demonstrating systemic adverse effects from amalgam restorations.” Another conclusion of the report stated that, aside from rare instances of local side effects of allergic reactions, “the small amount of mercury released from amalgam restorations, especially during placement and removal, has not been shown to cause any … adverse health effects.” […] The ADA Council on Scientific Affairs prepared a[comprehensive literature review](http://www.ada.org/sections/professionalResources/pdfs/amalgam_literature_review_0907.pdf) (PDF) on amalgam safety that summarizes the state of the evidence for amalgam safety over the last five years (from January 2004 to April 2009). Based on the results of this review, the Council reaffirmed at its July 2009 meeting that the scientific evidence supports the position that amalgam is a valuable, viable and safe choice for dental patients. On July 28, 2009, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued its [final rule](http://www.fda.gov/MedicalDevices/ProductsandMedicalProcedures/DentalProducts/DentalAmalgam/ucm171120.htm) on encapsulated dental amalgam classifying amalgam and its component parts, elemental mercury and powder alloy, as a class II medical device. Previously there was no classification for encapsulated amalgam, and dental mercury (class I) and alloy (class II) were classified separately. This new regulation places encapsulated amalgam in the same class of devices as most other restorative materials, including composite and gold fillings. At the same time, the FDA also reaffirmed the agency’s position that the material is a safe and effective restorative option for patients. [/QUOTE] Take that cite and enjoy. When come back - bring a study that shows otherwise. The “size of the hole” and “tooth structure” is you moving the goal posts away from your indefensible ‘mercury’ stance into a different topic alltogether - and one you still haven’t shown any evidence for. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-goddamn-tired-of-dental-problems/683365/76 "2014-03-13T18:02:51Z")
Some information for you on [Mercury - and why the fish kind is different than the tooth kind.](http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/eh/hazardous/topics/mercury/hgforms.html) ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-goddamn-tired-of-dental-problems/683365/77 "2014-03-13T18:08:07Z")
The ADAs own literature states The use of amalgam is contraindicated; 1. In proximal or occlusal contact to dissimilar metal restorations. 2. In patients with severe renal deficiency. 3. In patients with known allergies to amalgam. 4. For retrograde or endodontic filling. 5. As a filling material for cast crown. 6. In children 6 and under. 7. In expectant mothers. Don’t try to blow smoke up the collective ass of science. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-goddamn-tired-of-dental-problems/683365/78 "2014-03-13T18:17:10Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > The ADAs own literature states > > The use of amalgam is contraindicated; > > 1. In proximal or occlusal contact to dissimilar metal restorations. > 2. In patients with severe renal deficiency. > 3. In patients with known allergies to amalgam. > 4. For retrograde or endodontic filling. > 5. As a filling material for cast crown. > 6. In children 6 and under. > 7. In expectant mothers. > > Don’t try to blow smoke up the collective ass of science. So - they are taking potential risks into account - what the fuck point were you trying to make earlier? that the ADA “pushes” amalgam in all cases no matter what as you said earlier? > [@FXMastermind](#): > > The ADA still fully SUPPORTS MERCURY FILLINGS and denies ANY danger or possible damage from them. > > A lot of fuckhead Dentists STILL USE THEM, including for children. > > [http://www.ada.org/2468.aspx](http://www.ada.org/2468.aspx) > > Drilling out enough tooth to use a Civil war method permanently weakens a tooth. > > Which the ADA denies. Seems you just proved yourself wrong. have a pleasant afternoon… ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-goddamn-tired-of-dental-problems/683365/79 "2014-03-13T18:25:46Z")
Like I said, it’s a never ending argument. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2014, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-goddamn-tired-of-dental-problems/683365/80 "2014-03-13T18:41:26Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Like I said, it’s a never ending argument. Only because you wont shut the fuck up about that which you clearly know nothing about. You just invalidated your entire case/mantra against the ADA - So we can take away from that, and this thread - that you are, in fact, a troll that only wishes to share dis-information and ignorance. Go back to your bridge. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-goddamn-tired-of-dental-problems/683365.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-goddamn-tired-of-dental-problems/683365.md?page=5)