# "I'm so old!" "You're not old!"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-old-youre-not-old/480643>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 10, 2009, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-old-youre-not-old/480643 "2009-01-10T05:29:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2009, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-old-youre-not-old/480643/41 "2009-01-11T17:22:05Z")

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> [@EJsGirl](#):
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> It’s not the age, honey- it’s the mileage…
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> 😉

True 🆒

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2009, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-old-youre-not-old/480643/42 "2009-01-11T19:23:25Z")

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> [@Omega\_Glory](#):
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> I see the point you’re trying to make, but Jet’s been popular for a good five or six years.

Jet had _one popular song_ five or six years ago. Not quite the same thing.

I mean, I love “Are You Gonna Be My Girl”, but Jet is a one hit wonder that will be long forgotten outside VH1 countdown shows while the Oasis brothers will still be playing shows to aging hipsters.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-old-youre-not-old/480643/43 "2009-01-11T19:39:02Z")

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> [@percypercy](#):
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> I’m the youngest of six, so no matter how old I get, 27 now, I will always have brothers and sisters who are older.

I feel bad for you, in that you haven’t yet realized that this isn’t necessarily true.

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**Author:** ![Omega\_Glory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7c8e57/32.png) [@Omega\_Glory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omega_Glory)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-old-youre-not-old/480643/44 "2009-01-11T19:43:46Z")

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It’s not about the staying power of Jet vs. Oasis, but that Jet isn’t some newfangled band that no one over 20 would recognize. I haven’t been following their career, so I’ll concede that they might not be hot, but **Olivesmarch** ’s sister in law was at their concert, so they must be doing sometthing.

As an aside, I was suprised to hear that Oasis just released a new album. I figured Noel and Liam had gotten sick of each other and gone their seperate ways years ago.

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**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2009, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-old-youre-not-old/480643/45 "2009-01-11T23:43:55Z")

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Going back to my earlier post, I was watching some show on VH-1, I think it was, and somebody referred to Oasis as the elder statesmen of rock. I looked up the brothers ages. [Liam Gallagher is 36](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liam_Gallagher) and [Noel Gallagher](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noel_Gallagher) is 41.  
Elder?  
**ELDER**?  
**MOTHER F** KING ELDER\*\*?:mad:

Sorry about the rant…carry on…

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**Author:** ![Caveat\_lector\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@Caveat\_lector\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caveat_lector_1)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-old-youre-not-old/480643/46 "2009-01-12T03:52:15Z")

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I’m 25 and look a lot younger than I am. I get asked where I’m in school a lot. When I tell them I already have a degree and spent two years teaching school I get a lot of :eek: . I then tell them my age and ask how old they thought I was. The answer is usually somewhere between 16 and 18. Of course my students all thought I was at least 35 when they were guessing.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-old-youre-not-old/480643/47 "2009-01-12T04:16:35Z")

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> [@Omega\_Glory](#):
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> It’s not about the staying power of Jet vs. Oasis, but that Jet isn’t some newfangled band that no one over 20 would recognize.

I’m 20 and have never heard of Jet. Oasis, yes, I like several of their songs. Especially ‘Champagne Supernova’.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-old-youre-not-old/480643/48 "2009-01-12T07:51:39Z")

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> [@Nobody](#):
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> Going back to my earlier post, I was watching some show on VH-1, I think it was, and somebody referred to Oasis as the elder statesmen of rock. I looked up the brothers ages. [Liam Gallagher is 36](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liam_Gallagher) and [Noel Gallagher](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noel_Gallagher) is 41.  
> Elder?  
> **ELDER**?  
> **MOTHER F** KING ELDER\*\*?:mad:
> 
> Sorry about the rant…carry on…

Don’t think of it as their ages that make them “elderly”, but how long they’ve been making music. Apparently Oasis was one of those groups where the members really were just dumb kids who became rock stars. I always assumed Noel was pushing 50 by now because most rockers don’t become famous until their 30s and Oasis has been doing this for over 15 years now.

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**Author:** ![grey\_ideas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/dfb087/32.png) [@grey\_ideas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grey_ideas)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-old-youre-not-old/480643/49 "2009-01-12T09:49:54Z")

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> [@Khadaji](#):
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> When I turned 35 one of the guys at the place I was consulting said: No offense, but you look much older.
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> 🙂 I guess I did, since I’ve been going gray since I was 20, but how do you start a sentence with “no offense” and expect the person to \*not \*be offended?

Similar here, I’m 33 but have been going grey since I was 18. For a while I’ve had what I refer to as “badger stripes” of grey down each side of my head. Thankfully I still have a lot of hair…I can easily end up with the “mad professor” hair if I’m not careful, hence bitching about having to get a haircut every 4 or 5 weeks doesn’t go down well with some of my peers who have been rapidly thinning for a while! So I suppose the good thing about having grey hair is that I have grey hair to bitch about 😉

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-old-youre-not-old/480643/50 "2009-01-12T10:37:43Z")

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> [@](#):
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> **LouisB** : Getting old sucks.

It beats the alternative.

Come on, Louis. You’re still in your sixties. I have a friend who just got engaged for the first time in his life in his late sixties. It doesn’t _have_ to be a dead end, you know. My best friend is ninety and has more energy and better skin than I do. My ninety-six year old mother wants a new pair of red shoes. She goes to visit her boyfriend once a week. They still adore each other.

Have you just lost interest since you retired?

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-old-youre-not-old/480643/51 "2009-01-12T11:08:09Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Don’t think of it as their ages that make them “elderly”, but how long they’ve been making music. Apparently Oasis was one of those groups where the members really were just dumb kids who became rock stars. I always assumed Noel was pushing 50 by now because most rockers don’t become famous until their 30s and Oasis has been doing this for over 15 years now.

The Rolling Stones, the Who and Status Quo make Oasis look like babies. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Tool\_of\_the\_Conspiracy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@Tool\_of\_the\_Conspiracy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tool_of_the_Conspiracy)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-old-youre-not-old/480643/52 "2009-01-12T22:17:22Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Jet had _one popular song_ five or six years ago. Not quite the same thing.
> 
> I mean, I love “Are You Gonna Be My Girl”, but Jet is a one hit wonder that will be long forgotten outside VH1 countdown shows while the Oasis brothers will still be playing shows to aging hipsters.

I’m still a little bit hoarse from singing that song too much while playing Rock Band, Friday night.  
I’m 35 and consider myself old, because I fight every change at work.

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**Author:** ![ItsInTheCards](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bb73d2/32.png) [@ItsInTheCards](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ItsInTheCards)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-old-youre-not-old/480643/53 "2009-01-12T22:38:34Z")

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I am rapidly approaching 40 (this April) and still get carded for beer and cigarettes. About 5 years ago I was dating a guy who was 27, I was 35. I met him at a bar and the barmaid came around the bar and grabbed me by the arm. She says “You’ve gotta be 21 to come in here” while ushering me to the door. So I whip out my driver’s license and give it to her. She looks at my boyfriend and says “Damn, Tony, I thought you were robbing the cradle!” To which I respond, “Um no, I am.”

Good times!

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-old-youre-not-old/480643/54 "2009-01-12T22:59:21Z")

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I was “back home” over the holidays and this girl whom I hadn’t seen in about 6 years kept staring at me. Finally she said, “you look so good, you haven’t aged a bit. You don’t have any of the lines on your face or crows feet that people start getting at our age.” I’m like, we’re 27, damnit! You people around here drink and smoke too much and do too many drugs! Go for a fucking jog! (Ok, I actually just said “thank you” but that’s all the stuff I wanted to say :))

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**Author:** ![Capcha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/82dd89/32.png) [@Capcha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capcha)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-old-youre-not-old/480643/55 "2009-01-13T00:17:10Z")

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They finally stopped carding me last year (legal age here is 18) and i’m a dacade older! It is frustrating when people don’t take me seriously when need be.

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-old-youre-not-old/480643/56 "2009-01-13T12:12:15Z")

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> [@Zoe](#):
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> It beats the alternative.
> 
> Come on, Louis. You’re still in your sixties. I have a friend who just got engaged for the first time in his life in his late sixties. It doesn’t _have_ to be a dead end, you know. My best friend is ninety and has more energy and better skin than I do. My ninety-six year old mother wants a new pair of red shoes. She goes to visit her boyfriend once a week. They still adore each other.
> 
> Have you just lost interest since you retired?

You are quite right; getting older does beat the alternative. My retirement was sort of forced on me as a result of being rear ended in July, 2007 and the spinal surgery that resulted. I’ve sort of been in limbo ever since. Once all those loose ends are tied up, my Darling Marcie and I plan on doing some traveling; until then, things are just sort of blah.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-old-youre-not-old/480643/57 "2009-01-13T14:40:58Z")

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I went touring a campus Friday with my 18 year old cousin, and twice I was asked what I was planning on majoring in.

In other words, they thought I was 17 or 18.

I’m turning 29 next month.

It wasn’t really a compliment. Seriously - all those college students look like toddlers to me now.

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**Author:** ![A\_Priori\_Tea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3bc359/32.png) [@A\_Priori\_Tea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_Priori_Tea)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-old-youre-not-old/480643/58 "2009-01-13T18:29:37Z")

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> [@Pyper](#):
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> I am 27, but co-workers frequently mistake me for older. They are quick to assure me it’s not my looks, but my air of authority. :dubious:

I am precisely the same age, and I get the same line. It’s quite amusing. “You don’t LOOK old, you’re just very… sure of yourself!”

What’s great, though, is that I have the kind of job where I can go “Just say I’m a pushy bitch and be done, and we’ll get along much better. Now, what were we doing before we got off-topic? :D”

People usually guess me between 30 and 38, depending on what I’m wearing and how much sleep I’ve had. I can only imagine that by the time I hit 40, I will regularly be offered senior citizen discounts and be given Ensure or something for xmas. On the bright side, it really helps in getting people to take me seriously who openly sneer at “those stupid kids in their 20s.”

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-old-youre-not-old/480643/59 "2009-01-13T19:04:02Z")

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I’m 36 and I’m the youngest person in my group at work. Which actually makes me feel older. When I used to work in a consulting firm full of 20 and 30 somethings, the people in their 40s and older were partners and other senior management types. Here they are just a bunch of Miltons counting the days until retirement. I’d so much rather work with younger people than older people.

Fortunately I’m mistaken for much younger. Probably because of my big mop of hair.  
People seem to go through the “I’m so old” nonsense at specific times:

Around 22 - senior year of college where 18 year old freshman who can’t get into the bars seem so young

25 - where you officially pass the age where it’s acceptable to visit your college or go to college parties any day other than the big alumni weekends. Also, you are now officially closer to 30 than 20.

30 - You are no longer officially a 20-something

40 - You are no longer a young person by any stretch of your imagination.  
Even 40 doesn’t seem that old, if you take care of yourself. It’s the people who let themselves go to shit at 25 that look really old in their 40s

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**Author:** ![schnuckiputzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecb155/32.png) [@schnuckiputzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/schnuckiputzi)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-so-old-youre-not-old/480643/60 "2009-01-13T20:52:20Z")

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Oldness hit me hard this week…I got bifocals this week and I’m bobbing my head around like a stupid chicken trying to figure out where I’m looking. And I turned 45 Christmas Day.

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