Im sorry, but The Matrix is way overrated

I love it because it has many many many things blowing up in slow motion.

“Guns. Lots of guns.”

That’s the most important line in the whole movie to me.

Mmm. Things blowing up in slow motion. Lots of them. If you don’t like lots of things blowing up in slow motion to a techno-ish soundtrack, yes, you will hate “The Matrix.”

I loved “The Matrix.”

Trinity…in that skin-tight suit…

sigh

(wipes drool)

I liked it quite a bit-- like a anime movie done with real actors. The story was done with a fusion of various anime and SF themes, and the style was very Hong Kong-ish but with the effects and production values of a U.S. summer blockbuster.

None of these alone would mean much, but all of these factors together with “bullet time” and Carrie-Ann Moss were enough for something special.

That said:

Umm, why the hell is this in the Pit? Was Cafe Society already filled with “Matrix yeah or yuck” threads? If we can have yet another Simpson quote thread I am sure we could kick this dead horse a few more times in Cafe Society.

:rolleyes:

You’re a bit late to the party as this precise issue has been beat to death in Cafe Society over and over (and over) again.

I think the resolved issues were -

1: Keanu Reeves is not the world’s finest actor but he is very pretty man and he makes many (not all) women’s panties extra moist, so it sort of balances out.

2: The plot is very silly on many levels in a practical scientific sense, but none of this really matters because everyone gets to wear lots of black leather and expensive sungalsses, shoot lots of ammo out of big, noisy guns and it has anti-gravity Kung Fu. Again the scales balance.

Free advice is worth what it costs you, but as a friendly heads up you might try picking more current films to analyze/rant about. It will be more fun and your points will have a slim chance of being vaguely original.

Wow. Deep.

OK, maybe not deep, but interesting analysis.

I agree that the plot was nothing new. Rather, it was classic. To me, it was the hero’s journey.

You know the story – Backwater nobody kid discovers the world is going to come to an end. Kid decides he will try to save it. Kid gets a mentor. Mentor believes kid is the “chosen one.” Kid learns to be a hero, becomes a man. Kid saves the world.

We’ve all seen this plot since before the Bible. And a classic never goes out of style.

Recent examples are Dune, Star Wars, LotR…

Ladies and gentlemen, let’s all congratulate this year’s winner of the SDMB Master of Understatement Award!

As an action movie I liked it well enough; the thing that bugs me are the people insisting on how deep it was and asking if I “got” all the metaphors. Please.

I agree with tdn – Matrix was the classic hero’s journey. I think it had the most direct “hero’s call to adventure” that I’ve ever seen. Now I need to go read Joseph Campbell.

That said, I must add that Keanu Reeves should not be allowed in a movie that has ANY character saying ANY intelligent line. Matrix worked well because it played to Reeves’s strength, looking dazed and confused, and away from his weakness, acting.

Keanu Reeves is a terrible actor who should be paid only minimum wage for the time he spends ‘acting,’ and not one cent more. Down with multimillion dollar salaries for Hollywood stars!

I thought it was a good movie because, as stated before, it is very visceral. The thing that does it for me in the movie is the sounds. The buzzing of the phone and the modems dialing, a deep static hum that permeated the whole flick. The soundtrack is perfect for the movie too; everything is a thrill ride. Bad acting? Cheesy storyline? The visuals and audio makes up for it.

Bullet-time, people!

Thats exactly how I feel. Its a stupid movie because everyone that watches it feels like their geniuses for getting it. A monkey with half a brain who existed in western civilization for 4 days would have ‘gotten’ it. Its the same way I feel about “The One” and “Enemy at the Gates” its designed to make somebody that sees it feel like their geniuses when in reality the movies are farting around in self important intelluctually obvious land. …Ugh…

Stofsky, I’m very sorry, but this year’s Understatement Award has already been given to Dewey Cheatum and How, for his “Clarence Thomas is not a great justice” comment!

Oh, and re: the Matrix. It’s a fine silly movie, which has been claimed by the fan-boys, who eat the psuedo-religious claptrap with fork and spoon. Surprised there aren’t more shoddy bildungsromans dumped on us, eh?

uhhh… sorry. I thought this was a thread about the car.

Yeah, we all thought of that when we saw the movie. The thing is, do you really think conservation of energy was germane to the plot? Who cares what kind of blah, blah reason they came up with to enslave humans? The point was that they were enslaved. Look, when you see a movie, you can either enjoy it, or you can pick at it to death.

Do you think there is ANY idea that hasn’t been done already?

Yeah, he sucks, but I have a hard time hating a whole movie just because of one weak actor.

You say that like it’s a bad thing.:slight_smile: And it’s not just the special effects that made it interesting - I think it had an original look and style to it.

I don’t think anyone should be claiming The Matrix is a great work of art - just an entertaining movie.

None taken. now that I re-read it it sounds exactly like an intro to a porn review.

OK so acting is care-worthy. but I think bad acting can be redeemed by a good film.
having enjoyed the Matrix so much and not having seen anything remotely like it ever. - I can’t really understand people bashing it.

I am so looking forward to 2 and 3

Ace0Spades -

There is no spoon! :smiley: :smiley:

But anyway, I liked it. Enough to see it more than once. I visited a friend out of town that played it for a month straight one weekend. That was just [sarcasm]a little[/sarcasm] overkill.

You don’t have to believe what something says to like it. I liked the film about Moses without being religeous.

Yeah! The Matrix was at best a mediocre movie! And I’m gonna tell everyone I know, I don’t care if it takes until the end of 1999!
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Seriously, what the fuck? Has this rant been stewing inside you for three years?

I can’t wait until next year, when your opinions about the election of 2000 are finally revealed…

Hear Hear! :smiley: