# I'm sorry, but the Scion XB is an ugly car

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-the-scion-xb-is-an-ugly-car/333370>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [November 30, 2005, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-the-scion-xb-is-an-ugly-car/333370 "2005-11-30T14:17:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2005, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-the-scion-xb-is-an-ugly-car/333370/21 "2005-11-30T17:32:44Z")

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It’s a 1984 Chevy Astro. Eh. Decent city car, but I’d rather have my Matrix than a B any day.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2005, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-the-scion-xb-is-an-ugly-car/333370/22 "2005-11-30T17:33:45Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> I’m moving this back to IMHO. If **Czarcasm** still feels it is inappropriate for that forum, he may close it (certainly no great loss), but no way is this Pit-worthy.

Don’t you guys really think this belongs in MPSIMS? I mean, it’s a pretty mundane and pointless vehicle.

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**Author:** ![NailBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecae2f/32.png) [@NailBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NailBunny)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2005, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-the-scion-xb-is-an-ugly-car/333370/23 "2005-11-30T17:57:37Z")

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No disrespect to anyone who disagrees, but I love my Scion to death and very much enjoy driving something that isn’t a clone of every other car out there right now. I never wanted to look like everyone else I like to think that Johnny 5 (okay, yes, I named my car) feels the same way. 😉

The Honda Element, on the other hand, is pretty dreadful.

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**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2005, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-the-scion-xb-is-an-ugly-car/333370/24 "2005-11-30T18:02:47Z")

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> [@NailBunny](#):
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> The Honda Element, on the other hand, is pretty dreadful.

Huh? They seem to look equally ugly to me…

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**Author:** ![NailBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecae2f/32.png) [@NailBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NailBunny)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2005, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-the-scion-xb-is-an-ugly-car/333370/25 "2005-11-30T18:06:54Z")

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The Element has a more curved roof, and also has the ugly grey chunks all over it (heheh, not car-language-savvy I’m sure you can tell), is bigger and clunkier looking and costs a great deal more. Just personal preference, I guess.

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**Author:** ![St\_Ides](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@St\_Ides](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/St_Ides)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2005, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-the-scion-xb-is-an-ugly-car/333370/26 "2005-11-30T18:54:32Z")

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Yeah, it sure is ugly.

But I want one.

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**Author:** ![TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/51bf81/32.png) [@TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2005, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-the-scion-xb-is-an-ugly-car/333370/27 "2005-11-30T19:15:33Z")

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I think the Xb looks cool and utilitarian - kind of the “car brand” car that everyone might drive in some futuristic, socialist scandinavian metropolis.

But for a car that seems to have made its target market 19-year-old asian males, I’ve never seen anyone other than frumpy middle aged people driving them. Why?

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**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2005, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-the-scion-xb-is-an-ugly-car/333370/28 "2005-11-30T19:45:06Z")

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I hereby pit the sorry POS that is called Scion XB!!!1!!!

just wondering if they’ll move this wandering thread again

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2005, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-the-scion-xb-is-an-ugly-car/333370/29 "2005-11-30T19:56:02Z")

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> [@UncleRojelio](#):
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> just wondering if they’ll move this wandering thread again[/size]

they never did move to MPSIMS

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**Author:** ![UncleRojelio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unclerojelio/32/3160_2.png) [@UncleRojelio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleRojelio)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2005, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-the-scion-xb-is-an-ugly-car/333370/30 "2005-11-30T21:16:53Z")

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> [@anyrose](#):
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> they never did move to MPSIMS

I’m thinking it might qualify as a Great Debate as well.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-the-scion-xb-is-an-ugly-car/333370/31 "2005-12-01T00:58:05Z")

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> [@VCO3](#):
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> I think the Xb looks cool and utilitarian - kind of the “car brand” car that everyone might drive in some futuristic, socialist scandinavian metropolis.

To me it looks like something that Russian car designers would have drooled over during the last decades of the cold war. :dubious:

When Vynce and our cousin Joey were little guys, they had these things that melted plastic plates and sucked them into car shapes. These new cars (this one, aztec, element) look like they too were manufactured by seven and eight-year-old boys with vacuform machines. Man are they all so damn ugly.

On a positive note, I have a feeling they’ll provide some entertainment over the next four months in snowy areas. Eight inch ground clearance is wicked useful for places like New Hampshire.

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-the-scion-xb-is-an-ugly-car/333370/32 "2005-12-01T02:39:32Z")

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The Scion xB is the car that relieved the Aztek of the title “Ugliest thing on wheels.” It’s just so boxy and utilitarian. I’ll bet the design model was built with Legos.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-the-scion-xb-is-an-ugly-car/333370/33 "2005-12-01T02:56:27Z")

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> [@Trunk](#):
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> Shit, at least someone is taking a chance on design.

Yeah, well, that’s probably what Molly Ringwald thought in _Pretty in Pink_ when she made that horrible, horrible dress.

The xB looks only slightly better.

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**Author:** ![spingears](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@spingears](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spingears)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-the-scion-xb-is-an-ugly-car/333370/34 "2005-12-01T03:12:36Z")

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> [@anyrose](#):
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> the Scion XB is an ugly car. It’s boxy and clumsy and cheap looking and I don’t care how it’s tricked out, it’s just plain ugly. Ugly, ugly, ugly.  
> There. I’ve said it. 😃

So that is what I saw in the grocery parking lot.

It IS an ugly duckling but maybe it has some practical features. It looked roomy inside!

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**Author:** ![NailBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecae2f/32.png) [@NailBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NailBunny)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-the-scion-xb-is-an-ugly-car/333370/35 "2005-12-01T16:20:11Z")

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> [@spingears](#):
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> So that is what I saw in the grocery parking lot.
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> It IS an ugly duckling but maybe it has some practical features. It looked roomy inside!

Indeed, it is. Mr. Bunny is about 6’5 and this is the first car we’ve ever owned that he’s been comfortable in. It’s also affordable (for a coupla working kids like us in late 20’s, early 30’s) and gets fantastic mileage.

I’m actually extremely relieved that so many people still hate it. Here in Reno for some reason ever since we bought ours, it’s like a freakin’ country Scion jamboroo out there every time I go driving. I usually see at least 10 other ones on the road on my way to whatever destination, I was becoming concerned!

The funniest times are when I end up with one right behind me at a light, I think everyone must assume we know each other or we’re a parade or something. 😃

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**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-the-scion-xb-is-an-ugly-car/333370/36 "2005-12-01T20:03:39Z")

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Okay, will all the owners of PT Cruisers, Avalanche, Aztek, Scion, Yugo, and all other vehicles of questionable esthetics please stand up, hold hands and repeat after me:

If you don’t like it, don’t BUY one!

Honestly. I don’t go around telling you your baby/puppy/grandma is ugly. But there’s something about this board…every four weeks or so, my vehicles get slammed.

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-the-scion-xb-is-an-ugly-car/333370/37 "2005-12-01T20:34:31Z")

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> [@Unintentionally Blank](#):
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> Okay, will all the owners of PT Cruisers, Avalanche, Aztek, Scion, Yugo, and all other vehicles of questionable esthetics please stand up, hold hands and repeat after me:
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> If you don’t like it, don’t BUY one!
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> Honestly. I don’t go around telling you your baby/puppy/grandma is ugly. But there’s something about this board…every four weeks or so, my vehicles get slammed.

🙂 ok, I won’t

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-the-scion-xb-is-an-ugly-car/333370/38 "2005-12-01T20:53:14Z")

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y’know what tho? a lot of threads state opinions about things. You like the xB - that’s great. Use it in good health. But don’t deny me my opinions!

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**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-the-scion-xb-is-an-ugly-car/333370/39 "2005-12-01T20:57:35Z")

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> [@Unintentionally Blank](#):
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> every four weeks or so, my vehicles get slammed.

Mercy killings? 😃

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2005, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-the-scion-xb-is-an-ugly-car/333370/40 "2005-12-01T23:57:36Z")

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Damn, man, you keep slamming those cars, you’re going to be throwing sparks off the pavement as you drive.

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