# I'm sorry, but Zenster is a fuckwit. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 16, 2003, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-zenster-is-a-fuckwit/175669 "2003-05-16T13:20:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Sylkyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/da6949/32.png) [@Sylkyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylkyn)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-zenster-is-a-fuckwit/175669/21 "2003-05-16T18:46:47Z")
B…b…but I _like_ **Zenster**! He doesn’t bother me at all. I missed him dreadfully when he was on hiatus, and welcomed him back in an email when I noticed his return. Maybe I’m just not seeing the tone of his threads the way other people are seeing it. [sub][sup]And maybe it’s because I’m an obnoxious bitch myself IRL and our tones match…I dunno.[/sub][/sup] I also have learned a great deal about foods/recipes/etc. from him, so in my book, he’s done his part for ignorance battling. Especially my own. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-zenster-is-a-fuckwit/175669/22 "2003-05-16T20:20:29Z")
Seems like an okay guy to me. Short tempered, maybe, and obstinate when he gets his back up, but he’s hardly unique in that quality 'round these parts. ---
**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-zenster-is-a-fuckwit/175669/23 "2003-05-16T20:24:08Z")
As an insufferable food snob, I take umbrage at your statement, jar! ---
**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-zenster-is-a-fuckwit/175669/24 "2003-05-16T21:05:51Z")
I have never met Zenster, and truthfully I really don’t him very well, but he has taken on hero status in my house. He knew money was tighter than tight in my house and that my daughter’s 16th birthday was coming up and there was no way I could get her any of the things she asked for, he went out and bought her a CD player, some rather expensive but heavenly chocolate, and sent her some CDs. He also included an ungodly amount of gumballs for my son and some Army men, which were his favorite things at the time. Nobody asked him to do this, we certainly didn’t expect it, but he did it because he wanted to and because he’s got a good heart. He does stuff like this for people less fortunate than him all the time. So if he gets his back up on occasion and loses his temper, I can easily overlook it because of the good things I know he does that he rarely if ever talks about. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-zenster-is-a-fuckwit/175669/25 "2003-05-16T21:24:10Z")
Humm - based on the actions that **Arden Ranger** has described I think I have to give my vote to “OK Guy”. ---
**Author:** ![Emperor\_Penguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c2a13f/32.png) [@Emperor\_Penguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emperor_Penguin)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-zenster-is-a-fuckwit/175669/26 "2003-05-16T22:23:01Z")
I have to say, in all my interactions with **Zenster** , which have been regretablly few, on this board, he has always come across as an excellent poster. Heck he wrote out a massive recipie for domades, complete with footnotes. when I asked. Anyone who would share sucha recipie for such a delicious food is top notch in my book. Sure, we all have our off days, but really, there are posters on this board who I find much more annoying. Okay, that sounds like I’m damning him with faint praise. What I mean is not that he is less annoying than most, because he’s not. Annoying I mean… He isn’t… What I’m trying to say is… Oh forget it… I’ve lost myself. Put it this way, I like **Zenster**. He rocks. ---
**Author:** ![Vixenation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/278dde/32.png) [@Vixenation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vixenation)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2003, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-zenster-is-a-fuckwit/175669/27 "2003-05-17T00:07:02Z")
Go **Zenster**! He seems like a perfectly fine man, so I don’t know what the problem is. ---
**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2003, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-zenster-is-a-fuckwit/175669/28 "2003-05-17T00:33:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Kyla \* > Eh, you might change your mind if you ever met him. I have no idea if it is justified or not, but this just struck me as one of the coldest things I’ve ever seen posted in the pit. I don’t know why, but it just struck me. I hope that although it is conspicuously absent from the post, there is reason to say this. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2003, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-zenster-is-a-fuckwit/175669/29 "2003-05-17T00:39:29Z")
On the basis of **Arden Ranger** ’s testimony, I’m offically upgrading my rating of “okay guy” to “really cool dude.” ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2003, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-zenster-is-a-fuckwit/175669/30 "2003-05-17T02:17:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Arden Ranger \* > \*\* > So if he gets his back up on occasion and loses his temper, I can easily overlook it because of the good things I know he does that he rarely if ever talks about. \*\* In a recent thread, I posted that I had to drop out of college 8 years ago and was still unable to go back. Zenster sent me an e-mail offering emotional support, money for text books and other things. He made no mention of loan, or expecting to be paid back. Again, he did this in a private way. None of you would ever have heard of it if I hadn’t posted this. If there’s a reason to Pit him,I haven’t seen it. ---
**Author:** ![Sylkyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/da6949/32.png) [@Sylkyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylkyn)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2003, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-zenster-is-a-fuckwit/175669/31 "2003-05-17T02:25:27Z")
After reading all this, if I liked him before…I simply _adore_ him now. **Zenster** , baby…take a bow. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2003, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-zenster-is-a-fuckwit/175669/32 "2003-05-17T02:26:59Z")
I agree with the OP. He’s a _dreadful_ fuckwit. I cook a lot too. And I play the saxophone. And while I skip over 99% of his posts, the 1% that I hit make me want to quit both, take up knitting and playing the harpsichord. On the positive side, he lives on the other end of the continent. ---
**Author:** ![voguevixen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5ac83/32.png) [@voguevixen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voguevixen)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2003, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-zenster-is-a-fuckwit/175669/33 "2003-05-17T02:32:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Miller \* > \*\*On the basis of **Arden Ranger** ’s testimony, I’m offically upgrading my rating of “okay guy” to “really cool dude.” \*\* On the basis of Arden Ranger’s testimony, I’m offically upgrading my rating of “insufferable blowhard” to “creepy stalker freak.” ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2003, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-zenster-is-a-fuckwit/175669/34 "2003-05-17T02:39:02Z")
Zenster’s always seemed like a pleasant fellow to me. Not particularly short tempered. Clearly munificent and helpful. Most good cooks are a little obsessive about food, and Zenster wouldn’t seem to be much worse for his enthusiasms. I really don’t care if he watches television or not. His cigar box collection sounds kind of cool. There are real fuckwits on this board more worthy of a pitting, and quite a lame pitting at that. ---
**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2003, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-zenster-is-a-fuckwit/175669/35 "2003-05-17T02:51:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by voguevixen \* > \*\*On the basis of Arden Ranger’s testimony, I’m offically upgrading my rating of “insufferable blowhard” to “creepy stalker freak.” \*\* 😕 I fail to see how Zenster pretty much saving my kid’s very important birthday and renewing my faith that there are people out there that give a damn about anyone outside their own little sphere is even remotely creepy. ---
**Author:** ![Briny\_Deep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/briny_deep/32/17188_2.png) [@Briny\_Deep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Briny_Deep)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2003, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-zenster-is-a-fuckwit/175669/36 "2003-05-17T02:54:48Z")
I have no dog in this fight, but I’d rate personal interaction (as attested to by **Arden Ranger** and **Doc Cathode** ) higher than board personality, in evaluating a person. What you post on a messageboard is one thing. What you do in “real life” is another, and, I think, more significant. Of course, without the personal testimony, all most people have to go on here is the postings. ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2003, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-zenster-is-a-fuckwit/175669/37 "2003-05-17T02:55:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Arden Ranger \* > \*\*😕 > > I fail to see how Zenster pretty much saving my kid’s very important birthday and renewing my faith that there are people out there that give a damn about anyone outside their own little sphere is even remotely creepy. \*\* I am just about 100% sure that this refers to the OP and not to you. ---
**Author:** ![Demo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demo/32/8472_2.png) [@Demo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Demo)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2003, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-zenster-is-a-fuckwit/175669/38 "2003-05-17T03:15:52Z")
Zenster is the guy that was bitching because someone gave him a free venue to play his music and then he bitched about them not giving him free food too, right? I say he’s an alright guy though. You all just need to ride a dappled pony. ---
**Author:** ![fessie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@fessie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fessie)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2003, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-zenster-is-a-fuckwit/175669/39 "2003-05-17T03:30:19Z")
> [@](#): > > If someone (especially a store employee on their break) has only one or two items, I cheerfully let them cut in front of me (and frequently have to insist upon it). I also encourage others in front of me to pass a store employee on their break directly to the front of the line. Oh, yeah, a real pimple on humanity’s ass :rolleyes:. So he gets aggravated - give the guy a break! From what I read, he makes a lot of effort to do things _right_. People like that expect some reciprocation. Zenster wrote a terrific post on a thread I started - I really appreciated his support and enjoyed reading about his adventures, he had a lot of interesting things to day. Besides, I may be a newbie, but I thought the point of coming here was to express oneself with some emphasis - what’s the point of being milquetoast? ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2003, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-zenster-is-a-fuckwit/175669/40 "2003-05-17T03:38:05Z")
On the other hand, I remember these: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=88571&highlight=Zenster](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=88571&highlight=Zenster) [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=76842&highlight=Zenster](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=76842&highlight=Zenster) But most especially this one: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=40117&highlight=Zenster](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=40117&highlight=Zenster) I haven’t run into him since his return, other than to note that he came back, so I really can’t say from experience if he’s gone nuts and become a jerk or anything. I will say that on this board as in life, it is hard to escape and become something other than what people think you are. If y’all say he’s flaked out, I’ll take your word for it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-zenster-is-a-fuckwit/175669.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-but-zenster-is-a-fuckwit/175669.md?page=3)